Charting historic MCPS SMOBs by high school - 2 finalists’ schools represent 33.3% of all SMOBs

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Took the tweet on this and added some more information looking at the background of the schools and context into timing of history.

This weekend we will post exclusive interview with each SMOB finalist conducted by Moderately MOCO and I will post those here as well to not create a new topic so stay tuned.

https://moderatelymoco.com/charting-historic-mcps-smobs-by-high-school-the-two-finalists-schools-represent-33-3-of-all-smobs/
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Anonymous wrote:I grew up in MCPS, and my school has had one SMOB, who was elected while I was there. My kid came home from school with professionally printed campaign stickers one of the candidates and I was already so over it. I'm sure everyone has that kind of financial support and access to have that kind of swag. I wish they didn't even have a SMOB because it's not as though the person can actually do anything to make changes.


Regarding the last bit… they’re a full voting member of the BOE. That said, a lot of the campaign promises usually are not realistic to follow through


I really don't understand how their vote/signature can be legally acceptable for anything while they are under 18 years old. A minor is not allowed to legally sign anything on their own behalf except for "essential items."



The state of Maryland disagrees with you.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2022/08/25/student-voters-school-board-maryland/

"This week, Maryland’s highest court ruled in favor of student school board members, saying the position did not violate the state’s constitution, which bars minors from voting or from serving in public office. The Maryland Court of Appeals ruled that those provisions applied only to elected positions created by the state constitution — which does not include school boards. And it also pointed to the fact that state lawmakers had passed provisions in the 1970s and 1980s creating and defining the student school board positions, affirming their constitutionality."


No they don’t disagree. The position is different from the ability to sign a contract.


Is it? The post I responded to said "I really don't understand how their vote/signature can be legally acceptable for anything while they are under 18 years old." Was the point not whether the minor can play a part in official action? The answer is that they can. It is about the vote.

We can talk about signatures on contracts, but why would we? That is not relevant at all to the discussion....


Then you have no idea what board members do. Move on, you are clueless.


I don't think of myself as fully uneducated on this, but I'm happy to hear what you think I am missing.

Board members vote. SMOBS vote. And their vote has been determined by the court to have authority and impact. Are there legal contracts between parties that individual Board members sign that you are questioning the ability for SMOBS to do?


Where is the court case challenging a vote by a smob where the court decided the vote was legal?
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ModeratelyMoco wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I grew up in MCPS, and my school has had one SMOB, who was elected while I was there. My kid came home from school with professionally printed campaign stickers one of the candidates and I was already so over it. I'm sure everyone has that kind of financial support and access to have that kind of swag. I wish they didn't even have a SMOB because it's not as though the person can actually do anything to make changes.


Regarding the last bit… they’re a full voting member of the BOE. That said, a lot of the campaign promises usually are not realistic to follow through


I really don't understand how their vote/signature can be legally acceptable for anything while they are under 18 years old. A minor is not allowed to legally sign anything on their own behalf except for "essential items."



The state of Maryland disagrees with you.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2022/08/25/student-voters-school-board-maryland/

"This week, Maryland’s highest court ruled in favor of student school board members, saying the position did not violate the state’s constitution, which bars minors from voting or from serving in public office. The Maryland Court of Appeals ruled that those provisions applied only to elected positions created by the state constitution — which does not include school boards. And it also pointed to the fact that state lawmakers had passed provisions in the 1970s and 1980s creating and defining the student school board positions, affirming their constitutionality."


No they don’t disagree. The position is different from the ability to sign a contract.


Is it? The post I responded to said "I really don't understand how their vote/signature can be legally acceptable for anything while they are under 18 years old." Was the point not whether the minor can play a part in official action? The answer is that they can. It is about the vote.

We can talk about signatures on contracts, but why would we? That is not relevant at all to the discussion....


Then you have no idea what board members do. Move on, you are clueless.


I don't think of myself as fully uneducated on this, but I'm happy to hear what you think I am missing.

Board members vote. SMOBS vote. And their vote has been determined by the court to have authority and impact. Are there legal contracts between parties that individual Board members sign that you are questioning the ability for SMOBS to do?


Where is the court case challenging a vote by a smob where the court decided the vote was legal?


I posted an article about it in this exchange. Do you think it is not on point somehow?

“We are extremely disappointed with today’s ruling permitting a 16-17 year old minor — elected by 11-17 year old minors — to cast binding votes on the Howard County BOE,”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2022/08/25/student-voters-school-board-maryland/

Here is the decision itself: https://mdcourts.gov/data/opinions/coa/2022/18a21.pdf




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