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04/12/2023 10:28

Subject: Charting historic MCPS SMOBs by high school - 2 finalists’ schools represent 33.3% of all SMOBs

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Charting historic MCPS SMOBs by high school.

The 2 schools with SMOB finalists make up 33.3% (1/3) of all SMOBs ever despite 2 schools being under 8% of MCPS HS.

The top 3 schools make up 46.6% of all SMOBs (12% of schools).

6 High Schools have never had a SMOB. Inequity starts at the top.

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04/12/2023 11:20

Subject: Charting historic MCPS SMOBs by high school - 2 finalists’ schools represent 33.3% of all SMOBs

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Well, the students are the ones who vote. What do you suggest to remedy the issue? Is there something inherent in the process that causes this inequity?

I’d think outreach to schools to identify strong candidates would be a first step, perhaps working with counselors and SGA sponsors.

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04/12/2023 11:26

Subject: Charting historic MCPS SMOBs by high school - 2 finalists’ schools represent 33.3% of all SMOBs

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ModeratelyMoco wrote:Charting historic MCPS SMOBs by high school.

The 2 schools with SMOB finalists make up 33.3% (1/3) of all SMOBs ever despite 2 schools being under 8% of MCPS HS.

The top 3 schools make up 46.6% of all SMOBs (12% of schools).

6 High Schools have never had a SMOB. Inequity starts at the top.

? Springbrook (tied with Whitman) is a high FARMs school.

RM has a lot because many of the RMIB students are very engaged with leadership and SGA.

You do know that the students vote for their SMOB, right? Should we give extra votes to certain SMOB candidates from certain locations and demographics?

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04/12/2023 11:48

Subject: Charting historic MCPS SMOBs by high school - 2 finalists’ schools represent 33.3% of all SMOBs

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ModeratelyMoco wrote:Charting historic MCPS SMOBs by high school.

The 2 schools with SMOB finalists make up 33.3% (1/3) of all SMOBs ever despite 2 schools being under 8% of MCPS HS.

The top 3 schools make up 46.6% of all SMOBs (12% of schools).

6 High Schools have never had a SMOB. Inequity starts at the top.

? Springbrook (tied with Whitman) is a high FARMs school.

RM has a lot because many of the RMIB students are very engaged with leadership and SGA.

You do know that the students vote for their SMOB, right? Should we give extra votes to certain SMOB candidates from certain locations and demographics?

Well, I don't know about "extra votes" but I will say KUDOS to a tiny school like Springbrook. Springbrook has hundreds fewer (if not a full 1000 fewer) students than WW and RM. Whoever managed to get that kind of participation out of that demographic must be pretty darned charismatic!

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04/12/2023 12:28

Subject: Charting historic MCPS SMOBs by high school - 2 finalists’ schools represent 33.3% of all SMOBs

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Anonymous wrote:Well, the students are the ones who vote. What do you suggest to remedy the issue? Is there something inherent in the process that causes this inequity?

I’d think outreach to schools to identify strong candidates would be a first step, perhaps working with counselors and SGA sponsors.

The biggest issue is that the narrowing down to finalists is done by a small select group of kids who need to go in person to vote and not everyone gets to vote.

Once the finalists are narrowed down, everyone gets to vote but that is not so for selecting who the finalists are.

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04/12/2023 12:29

Subject: Charting historic MCPS SMOBs by high school - 2 finalists’ schools represent 33.3% of all SMOBs

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ModeratelyMoco wrote:Charting historic MCPS SMOBs by high school.

The 2 schools with SMOB finalists make up 33.3% (1/3) of all SMOBs ever despite 2 schools being under 8% of MCPS HS.

The top 3 schools make up 46.6% of all SMOBs (12% of schools).

6 High Schools have never had a SMOB. Inequity starts at the top.

? Springbrook (tied with Whitman) is a high FARMs school.

RM has a lot because many of the RMIB students are very engaged with leadership and SGA.

You do know that the students vote for their SMOB, right? Should we give extra votes to certain SMOB candidates from certain locations and demographics?

The student general population only votes for the finalists. A much smaller select group are the ones who vote for who will be a finalist.

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04/12/2023 12:34

Subject: Charting historic MCPS SMOBs by high school - 2 finalists’ schools represent 33.3% of all SMOBs

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Glad it is RMHS. It is a very mixed and diverse school.

Poolesville had one too? Yay! Poolesville!!!

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04/12/2023 12:36

Subject: Charting historic MCPS SMOBs by high school - 2 finalists’ schools represent 33.3% of all SMOBs

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Anonymous wrote:

ModeratelyMoco wrote:Charting historic MCPS SMOBs by high school.

The 2 schools with SMOB finalists make up 33.3% (1/3) of all SMOBs ever despite 2 schools being under 8% of MCPS HS.

The top 3 schools make up 46.6% of all SMOBs (12% of schools).

6 High Schools have never had a SMOB. Inequity starts at the top.

? Springbrook (tied with Whitman) is a high FARMs school.

RM has a lot because many of the RMIB students are very engaged with leadership and SGA.

You do know that the students vote for their SMOB, right? Should we give extra votes to certain SMOB candidates from certain locations and demographics?

RM is also very close to MCPS HQ. It is easy for the SMOB to attend the meetings etc with other BOE members.

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04/12/2023 12:37

Subject: Re:Charting historic MCPS SMOBs by high school - 2 finalists’ schools represent 33.3% of all SMOBs

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You have to jump through hoops to even be nominated. The SGA students pretty much do not allow others to join. The students themselves do a lot of gatekeeping.

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04/12/2023 12:53

Subject: Charting historic MCPS SMOBs by high school - 2 finalists’ schools represent 33.3% of all SMOBs

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Anonymous wrote:

ModeratelyMoco wrote:Charting historic MCPS SMOBs by high school.

The 2 schools with SMOB finalists make up 33.3% (1/3) of all SMOBs ever despite 2 schools being under 8% of MCPS HS.

The top 3 schools make up 46.6% of all SMOBs (12% of schools).

6 High Schools have never had a SMOB. Inequity starts at the top.

? Springbrook (tied with Whitman) is a high FARMs school.

RM has a lot because many of the RMIB students are very engaged with leadership and SGA.

You do know that the students vote for their SMOB, right? Should we give extra votes to certain SMOB candidates from certain locations and demographics?

Well, I don't know about "extra votes" but I will say KUDOS to a tiny school like Springbrook. Springbrook has hundreds fewer (if not a full 1000 fewer) students than WW and RM. Whoever managed to get that kind of participation out of that demographic must be pretty darned charismatic!

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04/12/2023 12:56

Subject: Charting historic MCPS SMOBs by high school - 2 finalists’ schools represent 33.3% of all SMOBs

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ModeratelyMoco wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

ModeratelyMoco wrote:Charting historic MCPS SMOBs by high school.

The 2 schools with SMOB finalists make up 33.3% (1/3) of all SMOBs ever despite 2 schools being under 8% of MCPS HS.

The top 3 schools make up 46.6% of all SMOBs (12% of schools).

6 High Schools have never had a SMOB. Inequity starts at the top.

? Springbrook (tied with Whitman) is a high FARMs school.

RM has a lot because many of the RMIB students are very engaged with leadership and SGA.

You do know that the students vote for their SMOB, right? Should we give extra votes to certain SMOB candidates from certain locations and demographics?

The student general population only votes for the finalists. A much smaller select group are the ones who vote for who will be a finalist.

That smaller group is not "select." It is comprised of every single kid from any school who chooses to be a part of the process. Nobody is excluded and all have the opportunity to participate.

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04/12/2023 12:57

Subject: Charting historic MCPS SMOBs by high school - 2 finalists’ schools represent 33.3% of all SMOBs

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Anonymous wrote:

ModeratelyMoco wrote:Charting historic MCPS SMOBs by high school.

The 2 schools with SMOB finalists make up 33.3% (1/3) of all SMOBs ever despite 2 schools being under 8% of MCPS HS.

The top 3 schools make up 46.6% of all SMOBs (12% of schools).

6 High Schools have never had a SMOB. Inequity starts at the top.

? Springbrook (tied with Whitman) is a high FARMs school.

RM has a lot because many of the RMIB students are very engaged with leadership and SGA.

You do know that the students vote for their SMOB, right? Should we give extra votes to certain SMOB candidates from certain locations and demographics?

Well, I don't know about "extra votes" but I will say KUDOS to a tiny school like Springbrook. Springbrook has hundreds fewer (if not a full 1000 fewer) students than WW and RM. Whoever managed to get that kind of participation out of that demographic must be pretty darned charismatic!

Springbrook has 1827 students, Whitman 2027, RM 2386.

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04/12/2023 13:10

Subject: Charting historic MCPS SMOBs by high school - 2 finalists’ schools represent 33.3% of all SMOBs

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Anonymous wrote:

ModeratelyMoco wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

ModeratelyMoco wrote:Charting historic MCPS SMOBs by high school.

The 2 schools with SMOB finalists make up 33.3% (1/3) of all SMOBs ever despite 2 schools being under 8% of MCPS HS.

The top 3 schools make up 46.6% of all SMOBs (12% of schools).

6 High Schools have never had a SMOB. Inequity starts at the top.

? Springbrook (tied with Whitman) is a high FARMs school.

RM has a lot because many of the RMIB students are very engaged with leadership and SGA.

You do know that the students vote for their SMOB, right? Should we give extra votes to certain SMOB candidates from certain locations and demographics?

The student general population only votes for the finalists. A much smaller select group are the ones who vote for who will be a finalist.

That smaller group is not "select." It is comprised of every single kid from any school who chooses to be a part of the process. Nobody is excluded and all have the opportunity to participate.

“There is a selection/election of nominating convention delegates by local schools.“

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/student-leadership/smob/election-process.aspx

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04/12/2023 13:35

Subject: Charting historic MCPS SMOBs by high school - 2 finalists’ schools represent 33.3% of all SMOBs

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Anonymous

There will never be true equity in MCPS or even our country. Mine are just trying to survive MCPS.

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04/12/2023 16:10

Subject: Charting historic MCPS SMOBs by high school - 2 finalists’ schools represent 33.3% of all SMOBs

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I grew up in MCPS, and my school has had one SMOB, who was elected while I was there. My kid came home from school with professionally printed campaign stickers one of the candidates and I was already so over it. I'm sure everyone has that kind of financial support and access to have that kind of swag. I wish they didn't even have a SMOB because it's not as though the person can actually do anything to make changes.