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Anonymous wrote:How about Michelle Obama? Or a celebrity we'll just run themselves with confident people?

Stop with the political dynasties already!!

Can’t you see that is why we are in this position right now?

I generally assume that people suggesting HRC, Mrs Obama or any celebrity are trolling. I think HRC would do great, actually, but she’s not interested. She won in 2016 and instead we got the great treason weasel.

HRC did not win in 2016.

Eh. HRC won.

Nope. Not by our country's long established process. If you dont like it, then work to get it changed. Otherwise, you're no better than Trump complaining that he really won reelection.

Yes, we are still better ffs. Because we're not actually trying to prevent the orderly transition of power, and we're not encouraging violent insurrection. We're pointing out that the majority of voters wanted something different - VERY different - from what we got.

You clearly haven't read all the posts in this thread and others

88% of americans favor some form of Roe
88% of americans facor some form of gun control and red flag laws

The majority of americans favor democrats and liberal policies.

Facts matter.

Isn't the beauty of local and state elections that votes are basically these polls where they take the consensus and make that policy? So what is the point of bringing up polls. Let the voting booths speak for themselves. This is more of a general comment because whenever I see polls being brought up in political debates I don't really get it lol.

Yea, so the problem is this little thing called gerrymandering totaling Fing up state legislatures. So voting doesn’t represent the people either, dumba$$

It's really amazing that despite the attention on this issue, people still don't get it. Let me give a few examples:
- North Carolina, 2018. Democrats got 1,866,432 votes to Republicans 1,779,584, but Republicans got 65 seats and Democrats got 55.
- Wisconsin, 2018, Democrats got 1,306,878 to Republicans 1,103,505, but Republicans got 63 seats and Democrats got 36.
- PA, 2018, Democrats got 2,568,968 to Republicans 2,075,093, but Republicans got 110 seats and Democrats got 93.
- Michigan, 2018, Democrats got 2,128,281 to Republicans 1,935,174, but Republicans got 58 seats to Democrats 52.

2018 was a wave election where Democrats crushed Republicans in vote totals, but gained very little in terms of actual seats. Republicans have completely rigged the game in many states, so the argument that voters are going to get to decide abortion policy at the state level has no factual basis. Radical Republican legislators who have installed themselves despite the will of the voters will be deciding.

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Anonymous wrote:How about Michelle Obama? Or a celebrity we'll just run themselves with confident people?

Stop with the political dynasties already!!

Can’t you see that is why we are in this position right now?

I generally assume that people suggesting HRC, Mrs Obama or any celebrity are trolling. I think HRC would do great, actually, but she’s not interested. She won in 2016 and instead we got the great treason weasel.

HRC did not win in 2016.

Eh. HRC won.

Nope. Not by our country's long established process. If you dont like it, then work to get it changed. Otherwise, you're no better than Trump complaining that he really won reelection.

Yes, we are still better ffs. Because we're not actually trying to prevent the orderly transition of power, and we're not encouraging violent insurrection. We're pointing out that the majority of voters wanted something different - VERY different - from what we got.

You clearly haven't read all the posts in this thread and others

88% of americans favor some form of Roe
88% of americans facor some form of gun control and red flag laws

The majority of americans favor democrats and liberal policies.

Facts matter.

Isn't the beauty of local and state elections that votes are basically these polls where they take the consensus and make that policy? So what is the point of bringing up polls. Let the voting booths speak for themselves. This is more of a general comment because whenever I see polls being brought up in political debates I don't really get it lol.

Yea, so the problem is this little thing called gerrymandering totaling Fing up state legislatures. So voting doesn’t represent the people either, dumba$$

It's really amazing that despite the attention on this issue, people still don't get it. Let me give a few examples:
- North Carolina, 2018. Democrats got 1,866,432 votes to Republicans 1,779,584, but Republicans got 65 seats and Democrats got 55.
- Wisconsin, 2018, Democrats got 1,306,878 to Republicans 1,103,505, but Republicans got 63 seats and Democrats got 36.
- PA, 2018, Democrats got 2,568,968 to Republicans 2,075,093, but Republicans got 110 seats and Democrats got 93.
- Michigan, 2018, Democrats got 2,128,281 to Republicans 1,935,174, but Republicans got 58 seats to Democrats 52.

2018 was a wave election where Democrats crushed Republicans in vote totals, but gained very little in terms of actual seats. Republicans have completely rigged the game in many states, so the argument that voters are going to get to decide abortion policy at the state level has no factual basis. Radical Republican legislators who have installed themselves despite the will of the voters will be deciding.

THANK YOU.

The GOP has to cheat because no one wants their effed version of reality or the future. The GOP hates women, wants to grind Black people into dust, thinks we should yeet Muslims into the sun and only wants to keep Jewish people around so Jesus can come back and kill them. They want wealthy people to pay nothing and poor people to work for free. They want the lower middle class to sink into poverty for more slaves and the upper middle class to exist as a sort of audition for which desperate cluck will do the GOP’s bidding for scraps.

“Oh, it’s so lovely and beautiful that we can now choose life and if you spirit cookers want to kill more babies you’ll have to win at the state level.” You already know you’ve rigged it, you cluckers.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know what % of abortion are because of "Rape" or something bad that happens?

What's your definition of "bad"?

Rape - bad
Incest - bad
Abusive partner - bad
Birth control pills were tampered or did not work - bad
Condom broke - bad
Ectopic pregnancy - bad
Miscarriage - bad
Fetal abnormalities not consistent with life - bad

You're probably looking at 70%+ of abortions covered by that list of "bad" scenarios. This is why trying to legislate a list of carve-outs is a dumb idea. You can't possibly cover every scenario.

Rape - bad
Incest - bad
Abusive partner - should leave partner
Birth control pills were tampered or did not work - gift from god
Condom broke - gift from god

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know what % of abortion are because of "Rape" or something bad that happens?

What's your definition of "bad"?

Rape - bad
Incest - bad
Abusive partner - bad
Birth control pills were tampered or did not work - bad
Condom broke - bad
Ectopic pregnancy - bad
Miscarriage - bad
Fetal abnormalities not consistent with life - bad

You're probably looking at 70%+ of abortions covered by that list of "bad" scenarios. This is why trying to legislate a list of carve-outs is a dumb idea. You can't possibly cover every scenario.

Rape - bad
Incest - bad
Abusive partner - should leave partner
Birth control pills were tampered or did not work - gift from god
Condom broke - gift from god

I will start this with I am fully pro-choice but I am also raising and loving a child who was conceived through rape.
If you are going to make any judgment on bad or good, you have to make it across the board for all pregnancy. A fetus (and eventual child) suddenly doesn't become "bad" because a sperm entered a vagina due to rape. It is the impact on the woman which makes it "bad" and the incredible difficulty in raising the child. This is the same as if the woman is poor or just darn chooses not to be pregnant. The logic that there is good and bad in this is flawed.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know what % of abortion are because of "Rape" or something bad that happens?

What's your definition of "bad"?

Rape - bad
Incest - bad
Abusive partner - bad
Birth control pills were tampered or did not work - bad
Condom broke - bad
Ectopic pregnancy - bad
Miscarriage - bad
Fetal abnormalities not consistent with life - bad

You're probably looking at 70%+ of abortions covered by that list of "bad" scenarios. This is why trying to legislate a list of carve-outs is a dumb idea. You can't possibly cover every scenario.

Rape - bad
Incest - bad
Abusive partner - should leave partner
Birth control pills were tampered or did not work - gift from god
Condom broke - gift from god

I will start this with I am fully pro-choice but I am also raising and loving a child who was conceived through rape.
If you are going to make any judgment on bad or good, you have to make it across the board for all pregnancy. A fetus (and eventual child) suddenly doesn't become "bad" because a sperm entered a vagina due to rape. It is the impact on the woman which makes it "bad" and the incredible difficulty in raising the child. This is the same as if the woman is poor or just darn chooses not to be pregnant. The logic that there is good and bad in this is flawed.

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Anonymous wrote:How about Michelle Obama? Or a celebrity we'll just run themselves with confident people?

Stop with the political dynasties already!!

Can’t you see that is why we are in this position right now?

I generally assume that people suggesting HRC, Mrs Obama or any celebrity are trolling. I think HRC would do great, actually, but she’s not interested. She won in 2016 and instead we got the great treason weasel.

HRC did not win in 2016.

Eh. HRC won.

Nope. Not by our country's long established process. If you dont like it, then work to get it changed. Otherwise, you're no better than Trump complaining that he really won reelection.

Yes, we are still better ffs. Because we're not actually trying to prevent the orderly transition of power, and we're not encouraging violent insurrection. We're pointing out that the majority of voters wanted something different - VERY different - from what we got.

You clearly haven't read all the posts in this thread and others

88% of americans favor some form of Roe
88% of americans facor some form of gun control and red flag laws

The majority of americans favor democrats and liberal policies.

Facts matter.

Isn't the beauty of local and state elections that votes are basically these polls where they take the consensus and make that policy? So what is the point of bringing up polls. Let the voting booths speak for themselves. This is more of a general comment because whenever I see polls being brought up in political debates I don't really get it lol.

Yea, so the problem is this little thing called gerrymandering totaling Fing up state legislatures. So voting doesn’t represent the people either, dumba$$

It's really amazing that despite the attention on this issue, people still don't get it. Let me give a few examples:
- North Carolina, 2018. Democrats got 1,866,432 votes to Republicans 1,779,584, but Republicans got 65 seats and Democrats got 55.
- Wisconsin, 2018, Democrats got 1,306,878 to Republicans 1,103,505, but Republicans got 63 seats and Democrats got 36.
- PA, 2018, Democrats got 2,568,968 to Republicans 2,075,093, but Republicans got 110 seats and Democrats got 93.
- Michigan, 2018, Democrats got 2,128,281 to Republicans 1,935,174, but Republicans got 58 seats to Democrats 52.

2018 was a wave election where Democrats crushed Republicans in vote totals, but gained very little in terms of actual seats. Republicans have completely rigged the game in many states, so the argument that voters are going to get to decide abortion policy at the state level has no factual basis. Radical Republican legislators who have installed themselves despite the will of the voters will be deciding.

Anonymous wrote:How do you respond all the nut jobs on Facebook saying that ectopic pregnancies are not abortion and they will adopt all of the babies?.

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know what % of abortion are because of "Rape" or something bad that happens?

What's your definition of "bad"?

Rape - bad
Incest - bad
Abusive partner - bad
Birth control pills were tampered or did not work - bad
Condom broke - bad
Ectopic pregnancy - bad
Miscarriage - bad
Fetal abnormalities not consistent with life - bad

You're probably looking at 70%+ of abortions covered by that list of "bad" scenarios. This is why trying to legislate a list of carve-outs is a dumb idea. You can't possibly cover every scenario.

Rape - bad
Incest - bad
Abusive partner - should leave partner
Birth control pills were tampered or did not work - gift from god
Condom broke - gift from god

There are no gods. It’s all made-up bs to control the masses.

Anonymous wrote:How do you respond all the nut jobs on Facebook saying that ectopic pregnancies are not abortion and they will adopt all of the babies?.

Anonymous wrote:How do you respond all the nut jobs on Facebook saying that ectopic pregnancies are not abortion and they will adopt all of the babies?.

Anonymous wrote:“President Biden says he would support changing the filibuster rules for codifying Roe v. Wade“

Thank you Mr. President.

https://twitter.com/jonlemire/status/1542498834739249152?s=21&t=YkDcaf5gbuSzw7O0qCjldw

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Anonymous wrote:How do you respond all the nut jobs on Facebook saying that ectopic pregnancies are not abortion and they will adopt all of the babies?.

The treatment for ectopic pregnancy is abortion.

Several hundred thousand children in foster care say otherwise.