Beto is running for governor

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Anonymous wrote:Power industry?


Yes, such as BP, ConocoPhillips, Marathon OiL, Exxon-Mobil, Tesoro, Valero, Halliburton, Etc. I mean all of those and others are Texas.

You must be too young to know about things like the show Dallas-a rich oil family, or what Texas Tea refers to. You mess with oil and gas and you are messing with Texas.
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Pp here. And if you don’t know what fuels the vast majority of our power plants and heats tons of homes, then you need to sit down and read a book.
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Anonymous wrote:Power industry?


Yes, such as BP, ConocoPhillips, Marathon OiL, Exxon-Mobil, Tesoro, Valero, Halliburton, Etc. I mean all of those and others are Texas.

You must be too young to know about things like the show Dallas-a rich oil family, or what Texas Tea refers to. You mess with oil and gas and you are messing with Texas.


It’s called the Energy Industry. I guarantee I know more than you including what it is referred to.
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Anonymous wrote:I am going to give some tough love here. He isn’t that impressive. He doesn’t impress with intelligence or vision. And regardless of his nickname, he is a rich white boy who went to a posh boarding school. I think the party should learn from Virginia. By now, the Democratic Party needs to offer something other than a rich white guy if it is going to succeed in convincing people it is the party of diversity.


Agreed. I think he is the screw up in his family. I would much rather have one Julian Castro run. He is thoughtful and deliberate, instead of being a loose cannon.

Beto has flailed around quite a bit to find his path.

I was disturbed once when I read or saw in interview where he was dropping F-bombs in front of his very small children. Not impressed.


What is stopping Castro from running if he wants to?

I don't understand this line of objections. Can you please explain where you're coming from here?


Whatever they did/do, they need to be cohesive and not run people against each other and ideally figure out the best person to beat Abbott and go all in on her. This isn't the time to have tough primaries. It looks like the Dems have decided on Beto. It is mistake.

- Texan


Her. You keep mentioning her. Which female Texas State Representative, State Senator, Mayor, or Lt. Governor are you talking about? I'm assuming she has the experience needed to win across Texas.


Nope. She doesn’t need to be an elected official or a politician. Even better if she’s not. Even better if she was a successful private industry exec. They are out there.

The best thing I can say about Beto is that he may help down ballot races.
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Anonymous wrote:I am going to give some tough love here. He isn’t that impressive. He doesn’t impress with intelligence or vision. And regardless of his nickname, he is a rich white boy who went to a posh boarding school. I think the party should learn from Virginia. By now, the Democratic Party needs to offer something other than a rich white guy if it is going to succeed in convincing people it is the party of diversity.


Agreed. I think he is the screw up in his family. I would much rather have one Julian Castro run. He is thoughtful and deliberate, instead of being a loose cannon.

Beto has flailed around quite a bit to find his path.

I was disturbed once when I read or saw in interview where he was dropping F-bombs in front of his very small children. Not impressed.


What is stopping Castro from running if he wants to?

I don't understand this line of objections. Can you please explain where you're coming from here?


Whatever they did/do, they need to be cohesive and not run people against each other and ideally figure out the best person to beat Abbott and go all in on her. This isn't the time to have tough primaries. It looks like the Dems have decided on Beto. It is mistake.

- Texan


Her. You keep mentioning her. Which female Texas State Representative, State Senator, Mayor, or Lt. Governor are you talking about? I'm assuming she has the experience needed to win across Texas.


Nope. She doesn’t need to be an elected official or a politician. Even better if she’s not. Even better if she was a successful private industry exec. They are out there.

The best thing I can say about Beto is that he may help down ballot races.


So you want someone inexperienced, unqualified, no political background and you don't even know who this mysterious lady is?
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Beto is a lightweight clown.
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Anonymous wrote:Power industry?


Yes, such as BP, ConocoPhillips, Marathon OiL, Exxon-Mobil, Tesoro, Valero, Halliburton, Etc. I mean all of those and others are Texas.

You must be too young to know about things like the show Dallas-a rich oil family, or what Texas Tea refers to. You mess with oil and gas and you are messing with Texas.


It’s called the Energy Industry. I guarantee I know more than you including what it is referred to.

Tomato Tomahto.

Do you disagree with my point? I don’t think you do if you know as much as you pretend.
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Anonymous wrote:I am going to give some tough love here. He isn’t that impressive. He doesn’t impress with intelligence or vision. And regardless of his nickname, he is a rich white boy who went to a posh boarding school. I think the party should learn from Virginia. By now, the Democratic Party needs to offer something other than a rich white guy if it is going to succeed in convincing people it is the party of diversity.


Agreed. I think he is the screw up in his family. I would much rather have one Julian Castro run. He is thoughtful and deliberate, instead of being a loose cannon.

Beto has flailed around quite a bit to find his path.

I was disturbed once when I read or saw in interview where he was dropping F-bombs in front of his very small children. Not impressed.


What is stopping Castro from running if he wants to?

I don't understand this line of objections. Can you please explain where you're coming from here?


I am just saying that from where I sit (which is not in Texas), Castro would be a much stronger Democratic candidate than Beto.
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Anonymous wrote:I am going to give some tough love here. He isn’t that impressive. He doesn’t impress with intelligence or vision. And regardless of his nickname, he is a rich white boy who went to a posh boarding school. I think the party should learn from Virginia. By now, the Democratic Party needs to offer something other than a rich white guy if it is going to succeed in convincing people it is the party of diversity.


Yes
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Anonymous wrote:I am going to give some tough love here. He isn’t that impressive. He doesn’t impress with intelligence or vision. And regardless of his nickname, he is a rich white boy who went to a posh boarding school. I think the party should learn from Virginia. By now, the Democratic Party needs to offer something other than a rich white guy if it is going to succeed in convincing people it is the party of diversity.


Agreed. I think he is the screw up in his family. I would much rather have one Julian Castro run. He is thoughtful and deliberate, instead of being a loose cannon.

Beto has flailed around quite a bit to find his path.

I was disturbed once when I read or saw in interview where he was dropping F-bombs in front of his very small children. Not impressed.


What is stopping Castro from running if he wants to?

I don't understand this line of objections. Can you please explain where you're coming from here?


Whatever they did/do, they need to be cohesive and not run people against each other and ideally figure out the best person to beat Abbott and go all in on her. This isn't the time to have tough primaries. It looks like the Dems have decided on Beto. It is mistake.

- Texan


Her. You keep mentioning her. Which female Texas State Representative, State Senator, Mayor, or Lt. Governor are you talking about? I'm assuming she has the experience needed to win across Texas.


Nope. She doesn’t need to be an elected official or a politician. Even better if she’s not. Even better if she was a successful private industry exec. They are out there.

The best thing I can say about Beto is that he may help down ballot races.


So you want someone inexperienced, unqualified, no political background and you don't even know who this mysterious lady is?


It’s tough being a moderate Democratic woman these days. Who wants the job? If you buck the party line you get activists chasing you into the bathroom and posting the video online.
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Anonymous wrote:I am going to give some tough love here. He isn’t that impressive. He doesn’t impress with intelligence or vision. And regardless of his nickname, he is a rich white boy who went to a posh boarding school. I think the party should learn from Virginia. By now, the Democratic Party needs to offer something other than a rich white guy if it is going to succeed in convincing people it is the party of diversity.


I am OP - and I agree in some ways. But I don't think Beto is a McAuliffe clone in any way. McAuliffe seemed tired and out of ideas. He's old, he's a Clinton buddy. He just seems like someone whose time has passed. I think Beto is more energetic and engaged (and he's younger). He's actually been out doing voter outreach for the last few years - not doing whatever McAuliffe was doing between terms.

I don't know if he's the guy. His presidential run suggests that he's not quite as compelling as he might once have seemed. But I don't think he's just some rich white guy who thinks he can walk into office because of course he can.


I’m not saying he is a clone of Terry. But among moderates, the similarities between McAuliffe and Youngkin in terms of where they live, where their kids went to school, etc. cut against Terry. It muted his efforts to cast a Youngkin as an evil rich white guy cuz, look in the mirror. I don’t think the candidate has to be a minority but I do think Abbott is a formidable candidate in a right leaning state. And the media is wrong. Texas is still VERY red. So the Democratic candidate needs to be a real force.


Yeah Abbott is formidable. But he is the incumbent and Beto would be the challenger, so it's a very different position from Youngkin. Also while Youngkin whitewashed his positions so they could be appealing to moderate voters, Abbott isn't able to do that. I'm not disagreeing that this is going to be a hard race and it's unlikely Beto will win - I just think that it's sort of nonsensical to draw parallels to this race and Virginia. Virginia was really different. I don't see Beto running on an anti-Trump campaign when he has an actual Abbott to run against - and he seems aware that he has to run on being able to provide things to Texans that they really want, not just some boogeyman.

I hope anyway!


How do the other Texans feel about Beto? Are there issues they particularly want him to address? Does your employer see a benefit of Beto? Let us know what other Texans think of him.

As a Virginian, I learned that when people talked more about Youngkin and his ideas, they ultimately voted for him even though I had always thought they were Dems.

Beto might surprise you in Texas as Youngkin did in Virginia. Your hope might be fulfilled.
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Abolishing or severely restricting private gun ownership isn't the road to victory in Texas. Beto loses by mid double digits. Ted Cruz wasn't likable and he was in a blue wave year.

A red wave is coming up. The only thing preventing 80 seats from flipping in the House is the lingering memory of 1/6. For many folks that cancels (heh) out the things with which they disagree with the Democrats.
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BlueFredneck wrote:Abolishing or severely restricting private gun ownership isn't the road to victory in Texas. Beto loses by mid double digits. Ted Cruz wasn't likable and he was in a blue wave year.

A red wave is coming up. The only thing preventing 80 seats from flipping in the House is the lingering memory of 1/6. For many folks that cancels (heh) out the things with which they disagree with the Democrats.


I remember the likes of you predicting a red wave in 2018 and 2020 too. I'll take your predictions with less than a grain of salt. Also Beto losing Texas wouldn't be a red wave - it's status quo.

Republicans, historically, should take back the House and the Senate in the midterms. It's what is to be expected. I don't look forward to it but I don't control history. We'll see if y'all improve your chances by cutting that idiot Trump loose or if you really want to lose as much as possible by keeping on hewing to him. Youngkin should teach you a lesson - that you're better off with Trump out of the picture. Let's see if you idiots learn that lesson.
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BlueFredneck wrote:Abolishing or severely restricting private gun ownership isn't the road to victory in Texas. Beto loses by mid double digits. Ted Cruz wasn't likable and he was in a blue wave year.

A red wave is coming up. The only thing preventing 80 seats from flipping in the House is the lingering memory of 1/6. For many folks that cancels (heh) out the things with which they disagree with the Democrats.


I remember the likes of you predicting a red wave in 2018 and 2020 too. I'll take your predictions with less than a grain of salt. Also Beto losing Texas wouldn't be a red wave - it's status quo.

Republicans, historically, should take back the House and the Senate in the midterms. It's what is to be expected. I don't look forward to it but I don't control history. We'll see if y'all improve your chances by cutting that idiot Trump loose or if you really want to lose as much as possible by keeping on hewing to him. Youngkin should teach you a lesson - that you're better off with Trump out of the picture. Let's see if you idiots learn that lesson.


Anyone predicting a red wave in 2018 was a damned fool. Ditto 2020, although I did underestimate Trump's remaining reservoirs of support.

Keeping things blue will be the lingering memory of 1/6. Youngkin's victory need not be compared to that of Northam - rather that of McDonnell. In the absence of 1/6, Youngkin wins by double digits and takes back Loudoun at a minimum.

Making things red will be The Economy (if things stay as-is.)

Sadly, it seems employing large numbers of people at low wages is something to which we have grown overly fond of. Democrats' solution of just giving money to people might have prevented the ship from sinking but people don't like being crowded on the lifeboats.

The key is breaking our addiction to ultra-low wage labor, both here and abroad, and allowing people with associate's degrees and HS diplomas only career paths that involve some degree of honor and financial security (and Lord no, this isn't some hackneyed call to "join the trades.") But that will involve inconvenience for many, as we're culturally conditioned to believe that front-line retail and caring occupation workers are somehow "less than".
Anonymous
Texas is even more red than when Beto ran for Senate. State lawmakers are switching parties from Dem to Republican because of the craziness of the left.

Hispanics are voting more and more red. Beto has no real chance. He needs to try to find a job suited to him.... not sure what that is.
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