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Anonymous wrote:This calendar is brutal on kids. I can hardly believe that next week will be even worse than this week. I am so fed up with this woke school board and their crappy calendar. They're scum. Has anyone counted how many days off the kids have had this Fall??????

9 days off through Thanksgiving, 12 days including Thanksgiving break.

So for the parents that had to take 9 days off just this fall, that's essentially their vacation for the year.

Sounds like some parents didn’t look at the calendar ahead of time and plan for it.

I personally love the breaks for the kids (and we are a dual working family). Anything that makes summer shorter is a win.

Why???????????? How is that a win for anyone?

It’s a win for education because there is a TON of learning loss over the summer. If we move to shortening summer even more, I would more than welcome that. And that learning loss is highest for low income kids.

Are you a parent or teacher?

I'm only a parent but it's been good for my kids. MS and HS. The early mornings for the MS are so early, it's nice to have to have a break here and there. And since they are both changing A days B days every day anyway, they take it all in stride.

You realize that this isn’t about adding days to the calendar right? And that there are summer programs that counter summer learning loss that are free? The learning loss happening this fall is probably worse than anything you’d see in a normal summer. This is ridiculous. Consistency is key to learning. A bunch of random days off makes things worse.

+100. No one has been able to hit their stride this fall. It's so bad for kids.

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Anonymous wrote:It seems dishonest to me for someone to pass themselves off as a Dr. without a PhD or medical degree. I don't know how someone can live with themselves and be a fraud like that. It's one thing if Bugs Bunny says "What's up Doc" to you, but otherwise it seems shady.

Well, the context matters. A medical doctor who lies? A researcher who does? Yep, that’s a big deal. But a doctorate is basically irrelevant to good teaching. Studies have shown the lack of connection between education and what makes a teacher a good one. I believe those were about Master’s degree but the same would hold here. It’s almost the same as a teacher saying something like, I used to be a James Beard winning chef when they weren’t. I know people will disagree with that comparison but it really does not matter unless this person is doing education research. (I say this with no disrespect to teachers. Just that the correlation between advanced degrees and quality teaching isn’t there.

Do I think this person has some mental issues? Absolutely! Does it matter for how well my child learns middle school language arts? Not a bit.

And a PP is right. Teachers talk. They will warn each other and teachers will do what they need to avoid your wrath. That won’t always be in your child’s interest. Unless you switch schools now, I doubt you can undo that damage.

Right- we wouldn't want someone who is TEACHING children to demonstrate the legitimate value of educational attainment honestly. I'm honestly horrified at the number of people in this thread who think a teacher lying about her education is acceptable. I certainly wouldn't want her teaching my kids

Me, too. It’s repulsive. Every person should lead with integrity. We should expect that from anyone. So gross how people trivialize and victimize OP.

Well, the kids don’t know she’s lying unless you’ve told them. So they didn’t learn a bad lesson from that unless you told them.

What? Your reasoning lacks critical thinking. The kids are being misled by an unethical behavior. Why would any parent want their children taught by that. I agree with op that it is ok to ask as if the teacher has degree it just needs to be updated. What’s wrong with asking? Especially if teacher is obligating children to call her a tutor she never earned. That’s the disgraceful part.

Look, OP. It’s clear in all of your “supporting” “NP” replies that English isn’t your first language. Agreeing with yourself will get your threads taken down. Just FYI.

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Anonymous wrote:OP’s behavior is going to get her sued for defamation or worse if she isn’t careful.

How?
The teacher calls herself Dr. at school.
By the teacher's own social media posts that she has put out to the public -- she doesn't call herself a doctor on LinkedIn or even mention she has a PhD. Her LinkedIn is completely viewable by the public. On her Facebook page, she says she has a PhD in Educational Studies, but doesn't say from where or when. That information she has provided is also left publicly viewable - along with her current job description that she is a "Protector of little people in purgatory."
VADOE database does not show she has a PhD or EdD -- just a bachelor's and master's.

These are facts - facts that she herself has supplied publicly.

So, how is that defamation that I've posted about it? Defamation is a false statement presented as a fact.

She's the one that has provided the information. She's the one who has called herself Dr.

How? Because it doesn’t matter what she calls herself. It could be a nickname. She could have a credential you don’t know about or isn’t listed. It doesn’t matter. What matters is you seem hell bent on ruining her reputation. This thread alone, with the identifying information, is enough to get you sued into oblivion. Your threats to go to the board suggest you want her to face some sort of consequences (for what? She hasn’t done anything wrong!). That’s what defamation is — lies about something that causes injury to their reputation.

I hope you do get sued. I am not a teacher, I am a parent. But your behavior as you describe it is far more egregious than anything this poor teacher has done in terms of honorifics she chooses for herself.

Back the hell off.

NP here, just read this whole thread. It is entirely proper to resolve this discrepancy. The person states they have a PhD in one source but in others only the lower degrees are verified — this absolutely requires explanation.

Not op here either. Have to say I agree. Requires explanation. A big discrepancy. I wouldn’t want my kids to be calling a professional by incorrect title. It’s unethical and the teacher is not leading with integrity if they are requesting that title to be used and haven’t actually earned doctorate.

Stop sock puppeting, OP. Youre embarrassing yourself. And next time you try it, vary your word and phrase choices a lot more.

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Anonymous wrote:OP’s behavior is going to get her sued for defamation or worse if she isn’t careful.

How?
The teacher calls herself Dr. at school.
By the teacher's own social media posts that she has put out to the public -- she doesn't call herself a doctor on LinkedIn or even mention she has a PhD. Her LinkedIn is completely viewable by the public. On her Facebook page, she says she has a PhD in Educational Studies, but doesn't say from where or when. That information she has provided is also left publicly viewable - along with her current job description that she is a "Protector of little people in purgatory."
VADOE database does not show she has a PhD or EdD -- just a bachelor's and master's.

These are facts - facts that she herself has supplied publicly.

So, how is that defamation that I've posted about it? Defamation is a false statement presented as a fact.

Right, but my point was we should collectively care about the kids still remaining at the school. Any unethical behavior that is happening in our county is a problem that impacts our community, and shouldn’t be pushed under the rug. These are public school employees being compensated by tax dollars we all pay. We should focus beyond our own needs and support ethical behavior for all teachers teaching in our school system.
She's the one that has provided the information. She's the one who has called herself Dr.

How? Because it doesn’t matter what she calls herself. It could be a nickname. She could have a credential you don’t know about or isn’t listed. It doesn’t matter. What matters is you seem hell bent on ruining her reputation. This thread alone, with the identifying information, is enough to get you sued into oblivion. Your threats to go to the board suggest you want her to face some sort of consequences (for what? She hasn’t done anything wrong!). That’s what defamation is — lies about something that causes injury to their reputation.

I hope you do get sued. I am not a teacher, I am a parent. But your behavior as you describe it is far more egregious than anything this poor teacher has done in terms of honorifics she chooses for herself.

Back the hell off.

NP here, just read this whole thread. It is entirely proper to resolve this discrepancy. The person states they have a PhD in one source but in others only the lower degrees are verified — this absolutely requires explanation.

Not op here either. Have to say I agree. Requires explanation. A big discrepancy. I wouldn’t want my kids to be calling a professional by incorrect title. It’s unethical and the teacher is not leading with integrity if they are requesting that title to be used and haven’t actually earned doctorate.

But OP’s kids DO NOT GO TO THE SCHOOL. Amazingly, this woman appears to be OP’s neighbor and friend.

GAH! I missed so much today!
I was away from my computer and could not remember my password -- didn't want to post without that!
Of course I see that people think I've been posting to support myself today anyway. SMH

The uptick in activity may be b/c this thread was listed on the home page as most active and Jeff called all those who like a good train wreck to come aboard!

You seem giddy that Jeff is calling you a train wreck. It’s says a lot about your mental health that you think this is an honor. And none of what it shows is good. Show y.our therapist this thread. She deserves to know what she is dealing with.

Anonymous wrote:The VDOE website does not list all my degrees. It does correctly list my endorsements, which is the part that matters to the legitimacy of my license . My principal probably doesn't know all my degrees or where they are from, because he managed hundreds of people and trusts that HR vetted me appropriately. My social media doesn't list all my degrees because I'm not a braggart and I haven't bothered to update my profile since I got it. HR does know my degree and the school that awarded it, and they pay me accordingly, which is the only part that matters to me.

You are convinced that this teacher is misrepresenting herself because she chose not to document her educational career in a way that satisfies you, when she is under no obligation to do so.

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Anonymous wrote:OP’s behavior is going to get her sued for defamation or worse if she isn’t careful.

How?
The teacher calls herself Dr. at school.
By the teacher's own social media posts that she has put out to the public -- she doesn't call herself a doctor on LinkedIn or even mention she has a PhD. Her LinkedIn is completely viewable by the public. On her Facebook page, she says she has a PhD in Educational Studies, but doesn't say from where or when. That information she has provided is also left publicly viewable - along with her current job description that she is a "Protector of little people in purgatory."
VADOE database does not show she has a PhD or EdD -- just a bachelor's and master's.

These are facts - facts that she herself has supplied publicly.

So, how is that defamation that I've posted about it? Defamation is a false statement presented as a fact.

She's the one that has provided the information. She's the one who has called herself Dr.

How? Because it doesn’t matter what she calls herself. It could be a nickname. She could have a credential you don’t know about or isn’t listed. It doesn’t matter. What matters is you seem hell bent on ruining her reputation. This thread alone, with the identifying information, is enough to get you sued into oblivion. Your threats to go to the board suggest you want her to face some sort of consequences (for what? She hasn’t done anything wrong!). That’s what defamation is — lies about something that causes injury to their reputation.

I hope you do get sued. I am not a teacher, I am a parent. But your behavior as you describe it is far more egregious than anything this poor teacher has done in terms of honorifics she chooses for herself.

Back the hell off.

NP here, just read this whole thread. It is entirely proper to resolve this discrepancy. The person states they have a PhD in one source but in others only the lower degrees are verified — this absolutely requires explanation.

Not op here either. Have to say I agree. Requires explanation. A big discrepancy. I wouldn’t want my kids to be calling a professional by incorrect title. It’s unethical and the teacher is not leading with integrity if they are requesting that title to be used and haven’t actually earned doctorate.

But OP’s kids DO NOT GO TO THE SCHOOL. Amazingly, this woman appears to be OP’s neighbor and friend.

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Anonymous wrote:OP’s behavior is going to get her sued for defamation or worse if she isn’t careful.

How?
The teacher calls herself Dr. at school.
By the teacher's own social media posts that she has put out to the public -- she doesn't call herself a doctor on LinkedIn or even mention she has a PhD. Her LinkedIn is completely viewable by the public. On her Facebook page, she says she has a PhD in Educational Studies, but doesn't say from where or when. That information she has provided is also left publicly viewable - along with her current job description that she is a "Protector of little people in purgatory."
VADOE database does not show she has a PhD or EdD -- just a bachelor's and master's.

These are facts - facts that she herself has supplied publicly.

So, how is that defamation that I've posted about it? Defamation is a false statement presented as a fact.

Right, but my point was we should collectively care about the kids still remaining at the school. Any unethical behavior that is happening in our county is a problem that impacts our community, and shouldn’t be pushed under the rug. These are public school employees being compensated by tax dollars we all pay. We should focus beyond our own needs and support ethical behavior for all teachers teaching in our school system.
She's the one that has provided the information. She's the one who has called herself Dr.

How? Because it doesn’t matter what she calls herself. It could be a nickname. She could have a credential you don’t know about or isn’t listed. It doesn’t matter. What matters is you seem hell bent on ruining her reputation. This thread alone, with the identifying information, is enough to get you sued into oblivion. Your threats to go to the board suggest you want her to face some sort of consequences (for what? She hasn’t done anything wrong!). That’s what defamation is — lies about something that causes injury to their reputation.

I hope you do get sued. I am not a teacher, I am a parent. But your behavior as you describe it is far more egregious than anything this poor teacher has done in terms of honorifics she chooses for herself.

Back the hell off.

NP here, just read this whole thread. It is entirely proper to resolve this discrepancy. The person states they have a PhD in one source but in others only the lower degrees are verified — this absolutely requires explanation.

Not op here either. Have to say I agree. Requires explanation. A big discrepancy. I wouldn’t want my kids to be calling a professional by incorrect title. It’s unethical and the teacher is not leading with integrity if they are requesting that title to be used and haven’t actually earned doctorate.

But OP’s kids DO NOT GO TO THE SCHOOL. Amazingly, this woman appears to be OP’s neighbor and friend.

Anonymous wrote:OP’s behavior is going to get her sued for defamation or worse if she isn’t careful.

Anonymous wrote:NP and I’m surprised no one mentioned this. The education listed on the VDOE teacher query does not match what I actually have. When I earned an additional advanced degree, I submitted transcripts to my school district for the pay raise. HR has that on file. The only time I ever transcripts to the state was when I first moved here out of college, to obtain initial certification. My additional degree did not change my certification to teach subjects so there was no need to submit anything. I suppose parents could search me and think I’m not as educated but this wouldn’t bother me. I’ve never thought about it until this moment. I’m also not asking anyone to call me Dr.

It’s an issue if she’s telling a lie but that’s it. Have you directly asked her about her doctorate program if you are curious?

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Anonymous wrote:Holy shit just wow....I literally have no words....

I truly don't understand why a parent is so obsessed with a teacher from a school where her children NO LONGER ATTEND...

We have much bigger fish to fry in this world people..

Great entertainment for a Tues night though....

Right?? Such good stuff. I think we may even be getting close to Jeff's Most Active Thread List!

So glad I posted. I really do feel so much better about the entire situation. Thanks all!

So you’re just a narcissist.

Anonymous wrote:You have no real problems. I want your life.

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FCPSAlumnowMom wrote:I guess because I am in a licensed and heavily regulated business, the thought of falsifying my credentials or just calling myself something that I am not is repugnant. So yeah, it really bothers me that she is calling herself Dr but has nothing that I can see to back it up.

Like, I literally just got an email from my compliance and risk manager that an award /recognition I've received for years and year wasn't updated on my website to show I also received it the last two years. And recognition I received from a national publication in 1999 wasn't submitted properly and I now need documentation to show I did receive it.

So yeah, I need to constantly review and provide documentation that I am who I am and I've done what I've done. I expect the same of the people teaching my kids...

Sounds like homeschooling is right for you.

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Anonymous wrote:She didn’t lie to FCPS or VDOE based on your OP, so it’s not a licensing/credentials issue. Just write her an email and tell her to stop doing this if it’s so important to you. This isn’t something to report to anyone.

Yes - I think this makes sense. As the PP asked - what consequences do I want? Or the other PP who said what a fool I will feel when it turns out she does have a doctorate and just doesn't want to report it --

I think I would feel GREAT if it turns out VADOE was wrong. YAY - she can report it and get a pay raise!!
And if she really doesn't have it -- I think I would just like to see her be called Ms. or Mrs. X.

That's it -- order restored. No "alternative facts" -- no playing doctor.

So I sent her an email this morning -- and referenced that I did talk to both of her Assistant Principals last year about this.
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Hi -

Not sure if you are aware, but your PhD in Education studies does not appear on the Virginia Department of Education licensing website.

https://vadoe.mylicense.com/verification/Search.aspx?facility=N

It looks like you just renewed your license in June of this year (since it doesn't expire until 2032).

I apologize for never asking you directly where you received your doctorate -- I did ask XXXX and XXXX last December, but they couldn't tell me.

Anyway - since this database is accessible to the public -- thought you should know that your teaching license isn't reflecting your doctorate.
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PP who asked why I had not just asked her before - well, given all the stuff that went on her in classroom -- things she would tell me about my child (or was said about other kids) that could not be corroborated by other teachers etc -- I figured she wouldn't necessarily tell me anyway -- so I let it go from last December.
I didn't see this VADOC website database until someone on DC URBAN MOM posted about it this summer or so in reference to teachers being hired with provisional licensing etc. That's when I looked her up and found that she didn't have a PhD or EdD listed.

Bravo.

Agree. The email was professional. Hopefully this gives you closure.

I seriously doubt the teacher will even respond to this nutjob.