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Anonymous wrote:While we're at it, why is Charles Xavier called Professor X? Isn't his school for gifted youngsters a secondary school?

Going by Mr X or even Dr X would make sense, but Professor seems kind of pretentious for a headmaster, even in Westchester.


Professor X has a PhD and could be called Dr. X, but apparently Dr. X doesn't have a PhD and should be called Professor X.


He went to Oxford to get this PhD -- but did he finish? Or did the whole Moira thing distract him?
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FCPSAlumnowMom wrote:
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FCPSAlumnowMom wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Holy shit just wow....I literally have no words....

I truly don't understand why a parent is so obsessed with a teacher from a school where her children NO LONGER ATTEND...

We have much bigger fish to fry in this world people..

Great entertainment for a Tues night though....


Right?? Such good stuff. I think we may even be getting close to Jeff's Most Active Thread List!

So glad I posted. I really do feel so much better about the entire situation. Thanks all!



I’m going to make Jeff’s most active list!!! I’m the most famous crazy person on DCUM! I feel better about myself already!

OP— take this thread to your therapist. If she doesn’t suggest a higher level of care, first her and get someone who deals in whatever personality disorder you have.


Well, you know what they say -- "Don't engage with crazy online or in real life. Before you know it, you will end up with crazy all over you too!"


Yeah— but you’re fun crazy. And I’m recovering from surgery and bored. And when I get bored with you (almost there, TBH. You’re such a classic Karen narcissist), I can make you go away. Win-win.


Oh! I hope your recovery is quick and easy! I'm sure people will stop poking at me soon enough and this thread will be over... hopefully you get enough before you get too bored!
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FCPSAlumnowMom wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Holy shit just wow....I literally have no words....

I truly don't understand why a parent is so obsessed with a teacher from a school where her children NO LONGER ATTEND...

We have much bigger fish to fry in this world people..

Great entertainment for a Tues night though....


Right?? Such good stuff. I think we may even be getting close to Jeff's Most Active Thread List!

So glad I posted. I really do feel so much better about the entire situation. Thanks all!



I’m going to make Jeff’s most active list!!! I’m the most famous crazy person on DCUM! I feel better about myself already!

OP— take this thread to your therapist. If she doesn’t suggest a higher level of care, first her and get someone who deals in whatever personality disorder you have.


Well, you know what they say -- "Don't engage with crazy online or in real life. Before you know it, you will end up with crazy all over you too!"

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FCPSAlumnowMom wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
FCPSAlumnowMom wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
FCPSAlumnowMom wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
FCPSAlumnowMom wrote:
Anonymous wrote:She didn’t lie to FCPS or VDOE based on your OP, so it’s not a licensing/credentials issue. Just write her an email and tell her to stop doing this if it’s so important to you. This isn’t something to report to anyone.


Yes - I think this makes sense. As the PP asked - what consequences do I want? Or the other PP who said what a fool I will feel when it turns out she does have a doctorate and just doesn't want to report it --

I think I would feel GREAT if it turns out VADOE was wrong. YAY - she can report it and get a pay raise!!
And if she really doesn't have it -- I think I would just like to see her be called Ms. or Mrs. X.

That's it -- order restored. No "alternative facts" -- no playing doctor.

So I sent her an email this morning -- and referenced that I did talk to both of her Assistant Principals last year about this.
****************************

Hi -

Not sure if you are aware, but your PhD in Education studies does not appear on the Virginia Department of Education licensing website.

https://vadoe.mylicense.com/verification/Search.aspx?facility=N

It looks like you just renewed your license in June of this year (since it doesn't expire until 2032).

I apologize for never asking you directly where you received your doctorate -- I did ask XXXX and XXXX last December, but they couldn't tell me.

Anyway - since this database is accessible to the public -- thought you should know that your teaching license isn't reflecting your doctorate.

*************************************

PP who asked why I had not just asked her before - well, given all the stuff that went on her in classroom -- things she would tell me about my child (or was said about other kids) that could not be corroborated by other teachers etc -- I figured she wouldn't necessarily tell me anyway -- so I let it go from last December.
I didn't see this VADOC website database until someone on DC URBAN MOM posted about it this summer or so in reference to teachers being hired with provisional licensing etc. That's when I looked her up and found that she didn't have a PhD or EdD listed.

oh my GOD. This HAS to be satire. Right?


I understand your curiosity, but you reached out to the administration last year, right? That's the only action you can take. At this point, now that your kids are out of the school, it seems really odd to circle back with the teacher. The administration either determined it wasn't even worth looking into, or they looked into it and were satisfied. For you to be like, but that's not good enough for me as the random parent of your former student, is not your place. If you think admin didn't handle it correctly and there's actually a teacher with a master's insisting everyone call her doctor because she's a delusional weirdo, then you can take it higher up the chain.

The way you are handling and writing about it makes it seem like a weird obsession based on jealousy.


So the administration I reached to last year is gone -- the assistant principal left in January for a new school and the "acting" assistant principal didn't get (or want?) the job -- not sure she 's in FCPS any more even. She specifically told me she had no idea where the degree was from and that was something FCPS handles for the school.

Jealousy? No - don't think it's that. I know enough about her professional [/u]and personal life[u] that I cannot think of anything I would want to trade in her life -- well, she's taller than me -- that would be nice?

I think I'm more concerned that she holds herself out there as a PhD and yet won't list from where on Social Media or with the county... not sure how that's a great look for a teacher of elementary students.


Ladies and gentlemen, we have a stalker. Time for the teacher to get a restraining order.


Yeah so I learned a lot about her personal life after she reached out to me three years ago to Friend me on Facebook and said she wanted to be friends so she could keep tabs on my older son b/c she thought he was really going places.

She joined our pool for a summer or two.

She lived in the neighborhood across the street.

She has kids that were in the same school as my kids.

My kids and I have run into her out shopping.

She emailed me about issues one of her kids has has making friends.

She talked in class with both of my kids all the time about stuff going on in her life.

So not incredibly difficult for me to learn enough about her personal life.

Well, except where she got her PhD in Educational Studies... but that's about her professional life -- not personal.

Sounds like you had ample opportunity to ask her


Right. Lots of time. But as I said before, she has often not been completely truthful about things that she said or did in the classroom so why would I have believed what she said anyway? As I said before, I asked her AVP who didn't know and then I asked the new AVP and she said she couldn't tell me either b/c hiring is done by the county and they don't know where their teachers' degrees are from.

Again, as I said before, when they had no information to share, I let it go because that seemed to be the end of the line. Until the DC Urban Mom post about the VADOE website. And once I looked there, I saw there was no reported doctorate and that she had renewed her licenses just a few months before.

But thanks to all of the support from this board, I did reach out to her directly. Only, at this point, as so many have pointed out, I really didn't need to ASK where her PhD in Educational studies was from and I didn't need to ask if she even had one because my kids aren't there any more and it really doesn't impact my kids anymore. My email was to share the information that her doctorate wasn't showing on the VADOE website. I didn't copy the administration or anyone else. I wasn't trying to out her or ask for anyone else to look into it. It was jsut to her.

I don't know why the VADOE maintains this website. I don't know who they think is looking at it. I don't know, besides me (and a couple of posters on this thread who have said they have now looked), who is looking.
But I do think Dr. X should know that whomever does go looking, if she's never checked before, what they are going to see (or in this case, not see).


“I do t believe anyThing she says. So, I emailed and asked where he PhD is from”.

Wut???


Yeah, wut?

No.. I don't believe much of what she has ever said so I did NOT ask her where her PhD is from. Sorry if I was unclear! I did post my email to her clarity - you actually have it in your post reply.
Anonymous wrote:Holy shit just wow....I literally have no words....

I truly don't understand why a parent is so obsessed with a teacher from a school where her children NO LONGER ATTEND...

We have much bigger fish to fry in this world people..

Great entertainment for a Tues night though....


Right?? Such good stuff. I think we may even be getting close to Jeff's Most Active Thread List!

So glad I posted. I really do feel so much better about the entire situation. Thanks all!
Anonymous wrote:
FCPSAlumnowMom wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
FCPSAlumnowMom wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
FCPSAlumnowMom wrote:
Anonymous wrote:She didn’t lie to FCPS or VDOE based on your OP, so it’s not a licensing/credentials issue. Just write her an email and tell her to stop doing this if it’s so important to you. This isn’t something to report to anyone.


Yes - I think this makes sense. As the PP asked - what consequences do I want? Or the other PP who said what a fool I will feel when it turns out she does have a doctorate and just doesn't want to report it --

I think I would feel GREAT if it turns out VADOE was wrong. YAY - she can report it and get a pay raise!!
And if she really doesn't have it -- I think I would just like to see her be called Ms. or Mrs. X.

That's it -- order restored. No "alternative facts" -- no playing doctor.

So I sent her an email this morning -- and referenced that I did talk to both of her Assistant Principals last year about this.
****************************

Hi -

Not sure if you are aware, but your PhD in Education studies does not appear on the Virginia Department of Education licensing website.

https://vadoe.mylicense.com/verification/Search.aspx?facility=N

It looks like you just renewed your license in June of this year (since it doesn't expire until 2032).

I apologize for never asking you directly where you received your doctorate -- I did ask XXXX and XXXX last December, but they couldn't tell me.

Anyway - since this database is accessible to the public -- thought you should know that your teaching license isn't reflecting your doctorate.

*************************************

PP who asked why I had not just asked her before - well, given all the stuff that went on her in classroom -- things she would tell me about my child (or was said about other kids) that could not be corroborated by other teachers etc -- I figured she wouldn't necessarily tell me anyway -- so I let it go from last December.
I didn't see this VADOC website database until someone on DC URBAN MOM posted about it this summer or so in reference to teachers being hired with provisional licensing etc. That's when I looked her up and found that she didn't have a PhD or EdD listed.

oh my GOD. This HAS to be satire. Right?


I understand your curiosity, but you reached out to the administration last year, right? That's the only action you can take. At this point, now that your kids are out of the school, it seems really odd to circle back with the teacher. The administration either determined it wasn't even worth looking into, or they looked into it and were satisfied. For you to be like, but that's not good enough for me as the random parent of your former student, is not your place. If you think admin didn't handle it correctly and there's actually a teacher with a master's insisting everyone call her doctor because she's a delusional weirdo, then you can take it higher up the chain.

The way you are handling and writing about it makes it seem like a weird obsession based on jealousy.


So the administration I reached to last year is gone -- the assistant principal left in January for a new school and the "acting" assistant principal didn't get (or want?) the job -- not sure she 's in FCPS any more even. She specifically told me she had no idea where the degree was from and that was something FCPS handles for the school.

Jealousy? No - don't think it's that. I know enough about her professional [/u]and personal life[u] that I cannot think of anything I would want to trade in her life -- well, she's taller than me -- that would be nice?

I think I'm more concerned that she holds herself out there as a PhD and yet won't list from where on Social Media or with the county... not sure how that's a great look for a teacher of elementary students.


Ladies and gentlemen, we have a stalker. Time for the teacher to get a restraining order.


Yeah so I learned a lot about her personal life after she reached out to me three years ago to Friend me on Facebook and said she wanted to be friends so she could keep tabs on my older son b/c she thought he was really going places.

She joined our pool for a summer or two.

She lived in the neighborhood across the street.

She has kids that were in the same school as my kids.

My kids and I have run into her out shopping.

She emailed me about issues one of her kids has has making friends.

She talked in class with both of my kids all the time about stuff going on in her life.

So not incredibly difficult for me to learn enough about her personal life.

Well, except where she got her PhD in Educational Studies... but that's about her professional life -- not personal.

Sounds like you had ample opportunity to ask her


Right. Lots of time. But as I said before, she has often not been completely truthful about things that she said or did in the classroom so why would I have believed what she said anyway? As I said before, I asked her AVP who didn't know and then I asked the new AVP and she said she couldn't tell me either b/c hiring is done by the county and they don't know where their teachers' degrees are from.

Again, as I said before, when they had no information to share, I let it go because that seemed to be the end of the line. Until the DC Urban Mom post about the VADOE website. And once I looked there, I saw there was no reported doctorate and that she had renewed her licenses just a few months before.

But thanks to all of the support from this board, I did reach out to her directly. Only, at this point, as so many have pointed out, I really didn't need to ASK where her PhD in Educational studies was from and I didn't need to ask if she even had one because my kids aren't there any more and it really doesn't impact my kids anymore. My email was to share the information that her doctorate wasn't showing on the VADOE website. I didn't copy the administration or anyone else. I wasn't trying to out her or ask for anyone else to look into it. It was jsut to her.

I don't know why the VADOE maintains this website. I don't know who they think is looking at it. I don't know, besides me (and a couple of posters on this thread who have said they have now looked), who is looking.
But I do think Dr. X should know that whomever does go looking, if she's never checked before, what they are going to see (or in this case, not see).
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
FCPSAlumnowMom wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
FCPSAlumnowMom wrote:
Anonymous wrote:She didn’t lie to FCPS or VDOE based on your OP, so it’s not a licensing/credentials issue. Just write her an email and tell her to stop doing this if it’s so important to you. This isn’t something to report to anyone.


Yes - I think this makes sense. As the PP asked - what consequences do I want? Or the other PP who said what a fool I will feel when it turns out she does have a doctorate and just doesn't want to report it --

I think I would feel GREAT if it turns out VADOE was wrong. YAY - she can report it and get a pay raise!!
And if she really doesn't have it -- I think I would just like to see her be called Ms. or Mrs. X.

That's it -- order restored. No "alternative facts" -- no playing doctor.

So I sent her an email this morning -- and referenced that I did talk to both of her Assistant Principals last year about this.
****************************

Hi -

Not sure if you are aware, but your PhD in Education studies does not appear on the Virginia Department of Education licensing website.

https://vadoe.mylicense.com/verification/Search.aspx?facility=N

It looks like you just renewed your license in June of this year (since it doesn't expire until 2032).

I apologize for never asking you directly where you received your doctorate -- I did ask XXXX and XXXX last December, but they couldn't tell me.

Anyway - since this database is accessible to the public -- thought you should know that your teaching license isn't reflecting your doctorate.

*************************************

PP who asked why I had not just asked her before - well, given all the stuff that went on her in classroom -- things she would tell me about my child (or was said about other kids) that could not be corroborated by other teachers etc -- I figured she wouldn't necessarily tell me anyway -- so I let it go from last December.
I didn't see this VADOC website database until someone on DC URBAN MOM posted about it this summer or so in reference to teachers being hired with provisional licensing etc. That's when I looked her up and found that she didn't have a PhD or EdD listed.

oh my GOD. This HAS to be satire. Right?


I understand your curiosity, but you reached out to the administration last year, right? That's the only action you can take. At this point, now that your kids are out of the school, it seems really odd to circle back with the teacher. The administration either determined it wasn't even worth looking into, or they looked into it and were satisfied. For you to be like, but that's not good enough for me as the random parent of your former student, is not your place. If you think admin didn't handle it correctly and there's actually a teacher with a master's insisting everyone call her doctor because she's a delusional weirdo, then you can take it higher up the chain.

The way you are handling and writing about it makes it seem like a weird obsession based on jealousy.


So the administration I reached to last year is gone -- the assistant principal left in January for a new school and the "acting" assistant principal didn't get (or want?) the job -- not sure she 's in FCPS any more even. She specifically told me she had no idea where the degree was from and that was something FCPS handles for the school.

Jealousy? No - don't think it's that. I know enough about her professional [/u]and personal life[u] that I cannot think of anything I would want to trade in her life -- well, she's taller than me -- that would be nice?

I think I'm more concerned that she holds herself out there as a PhD and yet won't list from where on Social Media or with the county... not sure how that's a great look for a teacher of elementary students.


Ladies and gentlemen, we have a stalker. Time for the teacher to get a restraining order.


And OP is easy to track given they’re posting under a user name.


+1. Does AlumNow!om mean OP is an alum?. Or that her kids are now Alums and THIS is how she spends her spare time? Because if it’s the later OP is bat sh*t craY cray.


The way you've worded this, not sure if you wanted me to answer or if you are looking for group think again since you aren't asking me directly.

I'm a FCPS alum (as in, I went to FCPS schools myself) and now I'm a Mom (to kids that are in FCPS).

And yes -- super easy to track - that's why I used a log in - but of course Jeff can track us all thru our IP addresses etc anyway.
Anonymous wrote:
FCPSAlumnowMom wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
FCPSAlumnowMom wrote:
Anonymous wrote:She didn’t lie to FCPS or VDOE based on your OP, so it’s not a licensing/credentials issue. Just write her an email and tell her to stop doing this if it’s so important to you. This isn’t something to report to anyone.


Yes - I think this makes sense. As the PP asked - what consequences do I want? Or the other PP who said what a fool I will feel when it turns out she does have a doctorate and just doesn't want to report it --

I think I would feel GREAT if it turns out VADOE was wrong. YAY - she can report it and get a pay raise!!
And if she really doesn't have it -- I think I would just like to see her be called Ms. or Mrs. X.

That's it -- order restored. No "alternative facts" -- no playing doctor.

So I sent her an email this morning -- and referenced that I did talk to both of her Assistant Principals last year about this.
****************************

Hi -

Not sure if you are aware, but your PhD in Education studies does not appear on the Virginia Department of Education licensing website.

https://vadoe.mylicense.com/verification/Search.aspx?facility=N

It looks like you just renewed your license in June of this year (since it doesn't expire until 2032).

I apologize for never asking you directly where you received your doctorate -- I did ask XXXX and XXXX last December, but they couldn't tell me.

Anyway - since this database is accessible to the public -- thought you should know that your teaching license isn't reflecting your doctorate.

*************************************

PP who asked why I had not just asked her before - well, given all the stuff that went on her in classroom -- things she would tell me about my child (or was said about other kids) that could not be corroborated by other teachers etc -- I figured she wouldn't necessarily tell me anyway -- so I let it go from last December.
I didn't see this VADOC website database until someone on DC URBAN MOM posted about it this summer or so in reference to teachers being hired with provisional licensing etc. That's when I looked her up and found that she didn't have a PhD or EdD listed.

oh my GOD. This HAS to be satire. Right?


I understand your curiosity, but you reached out to the administration last year, right? That's the only action you can take. At this point, now that your kids are out of the school, it seems really odd to circle back with the teacher. The administration either determined it wasn't even worth looking into, or they looked into it and were satisfied. For you to be like, but that's not good enough for me as the random parent of your former student, is not your place. If you think admin didn't handle it correctly and there's actually a teacher with a master's insisting everyone call her doctor because she's a delusional weirdo, then you can take it higher up the chain.

The way you are handling and writing about it makes it seem like a weird obsession based on jealousy.


So the administration I reached to last year is gone -- the assistant principal left in January for a new school and the "acting" assistant principal didn't get (or want?) the job -- not sure she 's in FCPS any more even. She specifically told me she had no idea where the degree was from and that was something FCPS handles for the school.

Jealousy? No - don't think it's that. I know enough about her professional [/u]and personal life[u] that I cannot think of anything I would want to trade in her life -- well, she's taller than me -- that would be nice?

I think I'm more concerned that she holds herself out there as a PhD and yet won't list from where on Social Media or with the county... not sure how that's a great look for a teacher of elementary students.


Ladies and gentlemen, we have a stalker. Time for the teacher to get a restraining order.


Yeah so I learned a lot about her personal life after she reached out to me three years ago to Friend me on Facebook and said she wanted to be friends so she could keep tabs on my older son b/c she thought he was really going places.

She joined our pool for a summer or two.

She lived in the neighborhood across the street.

She has kids that were in the same school as my kids.

My kids and I have run into her out shopping.

She emailed me about issues one of her kids has has making friends.

She talked in class with both of my kids all the time about stuff going on in her life.

So not incredibly difficult for me to learn enough about her personal life.

Well, except where she got her PhD in Educational Studies... but that's about her professional life -- not personal.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Hi -

Not sure if you are aware, but your PhD in Education studies does not appear on the Virginia Department of Education licensing website.

https://vadoe.mylicense.com/verification/Search.aspx?facility=N

It looks like you just renewed your license in June of this year (since it doesn't expire until 2032).

I apologize for never asking you directly where you received your doctorate -- I did ask XXXX and XXXX last December, but they couldn't tell me.

Anyway - since this database is accessible to the public -- thought you should know that your teaching license isn't reflecting your doctorate.


"I apologize for never asking you directly where you received your doctorate. Instead of taking this very obvious step, I instead asked your bosses when I was accusing you of lying about it and then I kept googling you and searching data bases in my free time because I know what kinds of things really matter, like the impending climate disaster, starving children, a global tilt toward fascism, and of course, whether or not you really have a doctorate. Silly me to skip the obvious first step of asking you directly, but you forgive me, right 'Dr.' X? Anyway, since you are obviously lying about your degree and for some reason no one else is willing to spend hours of their lives devoted to investigating this enormous perversion of justice, I thought I'd circle back around until I'd resolved The Case of the Mysterious Degree myself. You're welcome for this email that I'm sure feels very warm and not at all weird and invasive!"


This person isn’t your child’s teacher anymore? Or even a teacher at the child’s school?
There would be no way in hell I would answer your email in that situation.


I didn't ask for a response.

My message, listed earlier in this thread, said I was just letting her know that the database is not reflecting her doctorate.
Anonymous wrote:
FCPSAlumnowMom wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
FCPSAlumnowMom wrote:
Anonymous wrote:She didn’t lie to FCPS or VDOE based on your OP, so it’s not a licensing/credentials issue. Just write her an email and tell her to stop doing this if it’s so important to you. This isn’t something to report to anyone.


Yes - I think this makes sense. As the PP asked - what consequences do I want? Or the other PP who said what a fool I will feel when it turns out she does have a doctorate and just doesn't want to report it --

I think I would feel GREAT if it turns out VADOE was wrong. YAY - she can report it and get a pay raise!!
And if she really doesn't have it -- I think I would just like to see her be called Ms. or Mrs. X.

That's it -- order restored. No "alternative facts" -- no playing doctor.

So I sent her an email this morning -- and referenced that I did talk to both of her Assistant Principals last year about this.
****************************

Hi -

Not sure if you are aware, but your PhD in Education studies does not appear on the Virginia Department of Education licensing website.

https://vadoe.mylicense.com/verification/Search.aspx?facility=N

It looks like you just renewed your license in June of this year (since it doesn't expire until 2032).

I apologize for never asking you directly where you received your doctorate -- I did ask XXXX and XXXX last December, but they couldn't tell me.

Anyway - since this database is accessible to the public -- thought you should know that your teaching license isn't reflecting your doctorate.

*************************************

PP who asked why I had not just asked her before - well, given all the stuff that went on her in classroom -- things she would tell me about my child (or was said about other kids) that could not be corroborated by other teachers etc -- I figured she wouldn't necessarily tell me anyway -- so I let it go from last December.
I didn't see this VADOC website database until someone on DC URBAN MOM posted about it this summer or so in reference to teachers being hired with provisional licensing etc. That's when I looked her up and found that she didn't have a PhD or EdD listed.

oh my GOD. This HAS to be satire. Right?


I understand your curiosity, but you reached out to the administration last year, right? That's the only action you can take. At this point, now that your kids are out of the school, it seems really odd to circle back with the teacher. The administration either determined it wasn't even worth looking into, or they looked into it and were satisfied. For you to be like, but that's not good enough for me as the random parent of your former student, is not your place. If you think admin didn't handle it correctly and there's actually a teacher with a master's insisting everyone call her doctor because she's a delusional weirdo, then you can take it higher up the chain.

The way you are handling and writing about it makes it seem like a weird obsession based on jealousy.


So the administration I reached to last year is gone -- the assistant principal left in January for a new school and the "acting" assistant principal didn't get (or want?) the job -- not sure she 's in FCPS any more even. She specifically told me she had no idea where the degree was from and that was something FCPS handles for the school.

Jealousy? No - don't think it's that. I know enough about her professional and personal life that I cannot think of anything I would want to trade in her life -- well, she's taller than me -- that would be nice?

I think I'm more concerned that she holds herself out there as a PhD and yet won't list from where on Social Media or with the county... not sure how that's a great look for a teacher of elementary students.


You seem very fixated on how she presents herself to students and how she views her job, and you definitely connect this to why you need to wage this one woman war.

I'm betting she has a PhD and there's just some recording error. Why? Because she would have stopped asking people to call her Dr. when you started sniffing around, or the school would have told her to stop calling herself that. She would have seen that you are a dog with a bone and she'd better bury the bone real quick.

I assume she just got your email and laughed and forwarded it around for others to laugh at as well.

One time I was a grown woman teaching high school and I left an hour early to catch a plane to Paris for spring break. I wasn't bragging about my plans but when the students asked where I was going, I told them. I came back engaged. I didn't mention how or when or where I got engaged.

Then the vice principal called me in to tell me that a squeaky wheel parent had complained that I was immoral because I had clearly gone off to Paris with some man I wasn't married to. She told me that no one took this woman seriously and not to worry, she would handle it for me. She reminded me to of course not talk about my personal life with my students, but I never did so there was nothing for me to change.

You are coming across like this parent, except at least I could understand if you were some puritanical pearl clutcher you might believe that traveling with a man you are just about to become engaged to might be contagious and corrupt your child. That parent felt real fear, though it was invasive, unfair, and holding me to some religious standard that was outside her right when it comes to public school teachers. I don't understand why you are feeling fear or outrage about this.

You get one life, OP. It's good to fight righteous battles, but you are tilting at windmills here.


Again - your marital status, or lack there of, shouldn't have a direct impact on your ability to teach. Saying you have a PhD in Educational Studies, if you don't does.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
FCPSAlumnowMom wrote:
Anonymous wrote:She didn’t lie to FCPS or VDOE based on your OP, so it’s not a licensing/credentials issue. Just write her an email and tell her to stop doing this if it’s so important to you. This isn’t something to report to anyone.


Yes - I think this makes sense. As the PP asked - what consequences do I want? Or the other PP who said what a fool I will feel when it turns out she does have a doctorate and just doesn't want to report it --

I think I would feel GREAT if it turns out VADOE was wrong. YAY - she can report it and get a pay raise!!
And if she really doesn't have it -- I think I would just like to see her be called Ms. or Mrs. X.

That's it -- order restored. No "alternative facts" -- no playing doctor.

So I sent her an email this morning -- and referenced that I did talk to both of her Assistant Principals last year about this.
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Hi -

Not sure if you are aware, but your PhD in Education studies does not appear on the Virginia Department of Education licensing website.

https://vadoe.mylicense.com/verification/Search.aspx?facility=N

It looks like you just renewed your license in June of this year (since it doesn't expire until 2032).

I apologize for never asking you directly where you received your doctorate -- I did ask XXXX and XXXX last December, but they couldn't tell me.

Anyway - since this database is accessible to the public -- thought you should know that your teaching license isn't reflecting your doctorate.

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PP who asked why I had not just asked her before - well, given all the stuff that went on her in classroom -- things she would tell me about my child (or was said about other kids) that could not be corroborated by other teachers etc -- I figured she wouldn't necessarily tell me anyway -- so I let it go from last December.
I didn't see this VADOC website database until someone on DC URBAN MOM posted about it this summer or so in reference to teachers being hired with provisional licensing etc. That's when I looked her up and found that she didn't have a PhD or EdD listed.

oh my GOD. This HAS to be satire. Right?


I understand your curiosity, but you reached out to the administration last year, right? That's the only action you can take. At this point, now that your kids are out of the school, it seems really odd to circle back with the teacher. The administration either determined it wasn't even worth looking into, or they looked into it and were satisfied. For you to be like, but that's not good enough for me as the random parent of your former student, is not your place. If you think admin didn't handle it correctly and there's actually a teacher with a master's insisting everyone call her doctor because she's a delusional weirdo, then you can take it higher up the chain.

The way you are handling and writing about it makes it seem like a weird obsession based on jealousy.


So the administration I reached to last year is gone -- the assistant principal left in January for a new school and the "acting" assistant principal didn't get (or want?) the job -- not sure she 's in FCPS any more even. She specifically told me she had no idea where the degree was from and that was something FCPS handles for the school.

Jealousy? No - don't think it's that. I know enough about her professional and personal life that I cannot think of anything I would want to trade in her life -- well, she's taller than me -- that would be nice?

I think I'm more concerned that she holds herself out there as a PhD and yet won't list from where on Social Media or with the county... not sure how that's a great look for a teacher of elementary students.
Anonymous wrote:Op, thank you for providing excellent Tuesday afternoon entertainment. Off to go update the LinkedIn profile I never look at in case there are equally unhinged parents at my school.


AWESOME! So glad to be the impetus -- but do remember to make sure you don't have two schools on one social media site, and two totally different schools and degrees listed on another!
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Anonymous wrote:Maybe she's been ABD somewhere for a long time and decided to just go for it and call herself Dr.


This would be fraudulent. Being ABD is not even close to earning the actual Ph.D. I say this as someone who is ABD myself.


I don't think it's fraudulent to call yourself Dr. and let people assume you have a doctorate. If you submit a false credential that would be fraud.


What? “Fraudulent” means “unjustifiably claiming or being credited with particular accomplishments or qualities.“. Claiming to have a Ph.D. when you do not have a Ph.D. is fraudulent.


I could make my students call me Mrs even though I'm not married. Like Dr. X I would not be lying about a condition of my employment and I would not benefit financially, so it would be weird but who exactly am i defrauding?


False equivalents -- your marital status doesn't necessarily prepare you for teaching a subject matter, managing a classroom, etc -- a degree in something like the "PhD in Education studies" in theory does.
Anonymous wrote:I just looked up my friend and it says "Postgraduate Professional License" which doesn't really indicate whether it's a master's or doctorate.


Keep clicking...

Once you do the search and their name pops up, yes, it will say Postgraduate Professional License for many of the FCPS teachers --

click on their name -- this opens another window that shows their Education (what degrees they have), their Active License(s) and Expiration date, and Endorsements (PreK-6 vs special ed, reading, etc etc)

And to the PP who said maybe it's in something that doesn't pertain to teaching -- I know a HS teacher with a Juris Doctorate (law degree) it's listed and she is paid for that.

Anonymous wrote:She didn’t lie to FCPS or VDOE based on your OP, so it’s not a licensing/credentials issue. Just write her an email and tell her to stop doing this if it’s so important to you. This isn’t something to report to anyone.


Yes - I think this makes sense. As the PP asked - what consequences do I want? Or the other PP who said what a fool I will feel when it turns out she does have a doctorate and just doesn't want to report it --

I think I would feel GREAT if it turns out VADOE was wrong. YAY - she can report it and get a pay raise!!
And if she really doesn't have it -- I think I would just like to see her be called Ms. or Mrs. X.

That's it -- order restored. No "alternative facts" -- no playing doctor.

So I sent her an email this morning -- and referenced that I did talk to both of her Assistant Principals last year about this.
****************************

Hi -

Not sure if you are aware, but your PhD in Education studies does not appear on the Virginia Department of Education licensing website.

https://vadoe.mylicense.com/verification/Search.aspx?facility=N

It looks like you just renewed your license in June of this year (since it doesn't expire until 2032).

I apologize for never asking you directly where you received your doctorate -- I did ask XXXX and XXXX last December, but they couldn't tell me.

Anyway - since this database is accessible to the public -- thought you should know that your teaching license isn't reflecting your doctorate.
*************************************

PP who asked why I had not just asked her before - well, given all the stuff that went on her in classroom -- things she would tell me about my child (or was said about other kids) that could not be corroborated by other teachers etc -- I figured she wouldn't necessarily tell me anyway -- so I let it go from last December.
I didn't see this VADOC website database until someone on DC URBAN MOM posted about it this summer or so in reference to teachers being hired with provisional licensing etc. That's when I looked her up and found that she didn't have a PhD or EdD listed.
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