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Big announcement is......
Summer Residential Camps returning!
https://twitter.com/arlingtonsoccer/status/1633571214605074433
Summer Residential Camps returning!
https://twitter.com/arlingtonsoccer/status/1633571214605074433
lojack74 wrote:novasoccer15324 wrote:If you want yelling coaches on the girls side, just go to Maryland. From my experience most of the worst offenders of yelling girls coaches in northern VA have been flushed out, aged out, or moved on.
Or FCV United South. Not sure about now, but that effer would berate his players to tears and humiliation.
God, whoever made the comment about "hard nose coaching"! It's like this country isn't in the midst of the worst mental health epidemic we've ever seen, and fools like this are a large part of that problem.
Do you think maybe, just maybe it could be partially due to the lockdowns and hysteria over the last few years? Or maybe that since folks can't lose (e.g., everyone gets a trophy) these days and didn't learn how to handle rejection/loss in the little things in life and grow from that.....and somehow are expected to handle the big ones when real life comes at them?
SoccerWatcher wrote:Loudoun is going to be fine. For U13-U16 all of the teams qualified or are close to qualifying for Nationals. Their 2006 team is in the top half. The only team struggling is the oldest age group which is going to graduate this year. This merger will help them with the younger ages as they enter ECNL age. What Loudoun needs to focus on is getting girls into top college programs and they will be set going forward
Do you think that Loudoun getting "qualified or are close to qualifying for Nationals" is a pretty low bar? Especially considering that almost half the Mid-Atlantic qualifies, and the enormous pool of players they already pull from. Have any of their teams had success at Nationals when playing real competition?
soccermum79 wrote:SDC wrote:soccermum79 wrote:SDC wrote:Ihatedumbsoccerparents wrote:SDC wrote:So it was FOMO?
How does this help Loudoun? I see how it can help Valor and GF....
Simple, Loudoun is a powerhouse now they have players from 2 other clubs to help them be even stronger. Plus starting a new club it’s easier to trim the fat and add more muscle to the line up
My 2 cents
The other clubs would need to have the talent to displace existing for that to happen. And Loudoun already has a huge pipeline so I don't see this helping in any way....
Quantity over quality. Their pipeline might be large, but they certainly are not turning out very strong players in the older ECNL brackets. This move was in the advantage of GFRSC and Valor over LS.
This is due to the fact that the good, younger players left Loudoun prior to aging up/out of Loudoun at graduation. It happened in the past (and to a lessor extent still now) for a variety of reasons, such as no path (didn't get ECNL until recently, but has been fixed), poor coaching on girls side (still an issue), terrible administration (still an issue) lack of higher end college connections (still an issue), etc. They didn't merge with GFRSC and Valor to get/keep older players.....
Are you just highlighting my words for fun, or was there a point you were trying to make?
soccermum79 wrote:SDC wrote:Ihatedumbsoccerparents wrote:SDC wrote:So it was FOMO?
How does this help Loudoun? I see how it can help Valor and GF....
Simple, Loudoun is a powerhouse now they have players from 2 other clubs to help them be even stronger. Plus starting a new club it’s easier to trim the fat and add more muscle to the line up
My 2 cents
The other clubs would need to have the talent to displace existing for that to happen. And Loudoun already has a huge pipeline so I don't see this helping in any way....
Quantity over quality. Their pipeline might be large, but they certainly are not turning out very strong players in the older ECNL brackets. This move was in the advantage of GFRSC and Valor over LS.
This is due to the fact that the good, younger players left Loudoun prior to aging up/out of Loudoun at graduation. It happened in the past (and to a lessor extent still now) for a variety of reasons, such as no path (didn't get ECNL until recently, but has been fixed), poor coaching on girls side (still an issue), terrible administration (still an issue) lack of higher end college connections (still an issue), etc. They didn't merge with GFRSC and Valor to get/keep older players.....
soccer_dc wrote:What does this mean for existing Loudoun ECNL players? will they need to try out to make this new team?
Of course. Just like they do every Spring.
Ihatedumbsoccerparents wrote:SDC wrote:So it was FOMO?
How does this help Loudoun? I see how it can help Valor and GF....
Simple, Loudoun is a powerhouse now they have players from 2 other clubs to help them be even stronger. Plus starting a new club it’s easier to trim the fat and add more muscle to the line up
My 2 cents
The other clubs would need to have the talent to displace existing for that to happen. And Loudoun already has a huge pipeline so I don't see this helping in any way....
So it was FOMO?
How does this help Loudoun? I see how it can help Valor and GF....
How does this help Loudoun? I see how it can help Valor and GF....
Burtlecut wrote:soccer_dc wrote:Pepe wrote:If you don't wanna win or go to college, fine. But lots do. They are coaching kids and as long as they aren't derogatory, they are fine to yell all day. These are simple coaches who have bad days, good days, relationship troubles, and have favorites. You also don't know how your kid isn't listening or paying attention to drills... maybe they aren't all you think they are.
All the coaches do their best and while you want more, you have what you have. Don't like ECNL competitiveness? Go play rec.
You really want them to "care"? Care how? Stop watching movies and expecting some Coach Carter bs. Never seen such beta crybaby attitude. You clearly never played sports growing up.
That’s a pretty outdated attitude. Just because it’s always been that way doesn’t mean it’s right. We can do better for our kids. It is possible to be ultra competitive and demand excellence without crossing into verbal abuse. Plenty of examples of good coaches like this in sports.
It’s not easy to change attitudes but it does happen over time. It used to be acceptable for teachers to hit kids in schools. Most of society in this country decided they didn’t want that anymore. There will always be some who don’t like change, especially those who were at the top and feel threatened.
It's folks like you that can't stand the old way and cope with it by saying, "it doesn't have to be that way". I disagree and damn glad kids get some hard nose direction from adults. Go watch news and see what happens to kids without direction. Don't blame the coaches because you're a soft parent.
+100
soccerx3kidsss wrote:Favoritism is a form of abuse. Do coaches have favorites? Absolutely. It's natural. Should they make it obvious and make everyone else feel less than, absolutely not. Coaches aren't trained psychologists. They are regular people with little to no education on developmental needs of young people. They just claim they are soccer professionals which we know is also a low bar to be met in this country. It's not about tough love it's about how to treat people and ensure growth is happening and you can't paint every single person with the same brush. Coaches needs to be intentional with their words and actions and at the very least communicate effectively. We need to start holding youth coaches accountable in this country and if you can't see that then you are part of the problem.
Same can be said for parents and the whole pay to play model. Just because you want your kid on a top team doesn't mean she deserves to be there.
lojack74 wrote:SDC wrote:soccer_dc wrote:SDC wrote:soccer_dc wrote:SDC wrote:soccer_dc wrote:SDC wrote:NotMessi wrote:Did Rae Ann Taylor leave Loudoun? Don't see her on the website anymore.
She was fired.
What happened? Bad behavior? Going to another club and bringing players with her? Hard to imagine what else could be done to get fired mid season
Officially, it was "bad behavior". Unofficially, that meant whiny parents with kids on the bench who were unhappy.
She was fired because parents were whining about kids playing time? huh?
Unhappy parents caused this, yes.
How? Did the unhappy parents make up false accusations of the bad behavior or did it really occur?
You have to know Rae Ann Taylor to fully understand, but some people call it tough love/tough coaching. Some call it abuse. But all boiled down to their snowflake not being treated like a princess. It's not black and white, but when parents threaten legal action, the club reacted.
And this is how we end up with pro players thinking the abuse that's been happening to them since youth soccer, and still happening in the pros, is OK. I don't know about the coach you're talking about, but I have seen coaches absolutely berating players. That's not coaching. That's not tough love. And calling it abuse is not being a snowflake. It's is very black-and-white. Not a lot of grey area when it comes to abuse. My $0.02.
I agree with you 100% that abuse doesn't belong in youth sports. With this particular coach, however, it wasn't the case. Some parents didn't like how their kids weren't catered to and playing equal time because they paid just as much as everyone else. It's this entitled attitude that's growing here that pushes out tough coaches who demand a lot from the players but aren't abuse. There's a HUGE difference between good tough coaching and abuse.
soccer_dc wrote:SDC wrote:soccer_dc wrote:SDC wrote:soccer_dc wrote:SDC wrote:NotMessi wrote:Did Rae Ann Taylor leave Loudoun? Don't see her on the website anymore.
She was fired.
What happened? Bad behavior? Going to another club and bringing players with her? Hard to imagine what else could be done to get fired mid season
Officially, it was "bad behavior". Unofficially, that meant whiny parents with kids on the bench who were unhappy.
She was fired because parents were whining about kids playing time? huh?
Unhappy parents caused this, yes.
How? Did the unhappy parents make up false accusations of the bad behavior or did it really occur?
You have to know Rae Ann Taylor to fully understand, but some people call it tough love/tough coaching. Some call it abuse. But all boiled down to their snowflake not being treated like a princess. It's not black and white, but when parents threaten legal action, the club reacted.
soccer_dc wrote:SDC wrote:soccer_dc wrote:SDC wrote:NotMessi wrote:Did Rae Ann Taylor leave Loudoun? Don't see her on the website anymore.
She was fired.
What happened? Bad behavior? Going to another club and bringing players with her? Hard to imagine what else could be done to get fired mid season
Officially, it was "bad behavior". Unofficially, that meant whiny parents with kids on the bench who were unhappy.
She was fired because parents were whining about kids playing time? huh?
Unhappy parents caused this, yes.
soccer_dc wrote:SDC wrote:NotMessi wrote:Did Rae Ann Taylor leave Loudoun? Don't see her on the website anymore.
She was fired.
What happened? Bad behavior? Going to another club and bringing players with her? Hard to imagine what else could be done to get fired mid season
Officially, it was "bad behavior". Unofficially, that meant whiny parents with kids on the bench who were unhappy.
NotMessi wrote:Did Rae Ann Taylor leave Loudoun? Don't see her on the website anymore.
She was fired.