Did Rae Ann Taylor leave Loudoun? Don't see her on the website anymore.

sideeyechloe wrote:Maybe VDA is just good pal

I'm not saying VDA isn't good and wasn't trying to throw any shade. I just wouldn't expect them to average slightly better than 3rd place across all age groups when the season is over, based only on where VDA's teams finished last year, that's all.

The Mid-Atlantic girls fall season is roughly half-way done, and here are the overall club results:

Rank-----------------Team---------------2010------2009------2008------2007------2006------2005------Total
1---------------------VDA------------------2-----------3----------2-----------3----------2----------5---------17
2---------------------Charlotte SA---------3-----------5----------5-----------6----------4----------2---------25
3---------------------Courage-------------12----------6----------3-----------2----------1----------3---------27
4---------------------Richmond------------7-----------1----------4-----------9----------7----------1---------29
5---------------------Arlington-------------5-----------4----------1-----------8----------6----------9---------33
----------------------VA Union-------------1-----------8----------9-----------5----------4----------6---------33
7---------------------Loudoun--------------8-----------2----------6-----------7----------9--------11---------43
8---------------------NC Fusion-----------10----------11---------12----------4----------5---------7----------49
9---------------------Wilmington----------11----------13---------8-----------1---------13---------4----------50
10-------------------Fairfax Brave---------6----------10---------7----------11----------8--------10----------52
----------------------Charlotte Ind---------4-----------7---------10----------12---------11---------8---------52
12-------------------Beach-----------------9-----------9---------11----------13---------10--------13---------65
13-------------------NCFC-----------------13----------12--------13----------10---------12--------12---------72



VDA has only played 4 games, and mostly against lower table teams, so they should drop in the coming weeks. Some of the other clubs have had easier schedules and some harder, but it's useful to see none-the-less. I'm sure there are a few errors. Enjoy.

ps. I can't get the formatting to stick, so improvised. Sorry.

Pepe wrote:VDA has great cast and since the last few years turnover, every girls age group is top 3 in their MA league. If you can make the drive west of the DMV, then I'd look there.

Every VDA girls team is in the top 5 (not 3), and that is partially due to VDA playing weaker clubs so far this year (other than Richmond U). That said, it does look like VDA will probably be the top DC area club in the Mid Atlantic this year across the 6 ECNL age groups for girls.

novasoccer15324 wrote:


What went wrong this year??

Will the VYS partnership be able to rescue BRYC from this past year's results?
Here are the girls standings... am not even bothering to post the boys.

W-L-T

U13: 0-26-0 2 goals for, 140 against
U14: 1-24-1 15 goals for, 104 against
U15: 1-11-1 10 goals for, 44 against (high school ages only play the fall season)
U16: 3-8-2 15 goals for, 25 against
U17: 0-9-4 9 goals for, 32 against
U18/19: 3-8-2 14 goals for, 39 against

Totals (6 age groups)
8-86-10
65 goals for, 384 against (differential of -319)


Sooo... will resetting the teams and adding ECNL-R players from VYS help for next year?

I would expect the bottom 3 age groups to be much improved (next year's U13, U14 and U15 teams). While Vienna has played in ECNL-RL, SOME of the Vienna players are ECNL quality, and play in Vienna simply due to existing relationships and proximity. If those younger BRAVE teams are competitive, others will come. That's the hope.

Swaggalicious wrote:This is great news for both clubs. So how does it work? One ecnl team per age group? One or two ecnlr teams per age group? Is ecnlr part of brave or branded as VYS and bryc?

Fairfax BRAVE is only ECNL level teams, 1 boys team and 1 girls team U13 and up. 12 teams total.

BRYC and VYS each field separate teams to play in ECNL-RL, and otherwise run their house and travel programs as they did before the partnership.

soccer_dc wrote:VYS does tend to have good girls teams at the young ages. Which clubs have their top players typically moved to as they get older (presumably because there was no pathway to ECNL)? Assuming it was to other non-BRYC clubs (VDA, McLean) I’m wondering what in this partnership would make VYS girls want to go to BRYC if they weren’t doing that before?

I can respond to the second question. There are a number of high performers in Vienna that stay in Vienna because they like their teammates and are loyal to the club. They wouldn't organize a team or partial-team departure due to that loyalty, but they'd be happy to go as a group to join an ECNL team nearby with Vienna's encouragement/blessing.

Players currently trickle out of Vienna, but they aren't likely to trickle over to BRYC these days due to the club's struggles on the field, so I don't see BRYC getting many Vienna players without the partnership. With the partnership, Vienna's top players will come (and other non-Vienna, non-BRYC players will come to).

While league placement in ECNL shows that BRYC boys are doing better than the girls within the ECNL leagues, it’s important to point out that that doesn’t mean the BRYC boys program is stronger than its girls program. They appear to be roughly equal when looking at Youth Soccer Rankings, and the disparity in league results is merely due to the fact that nearly all of the top girls’ programs play ECNL, while on the boys side a number of the top programs play in MLS Next.

Here are the Youth Soccer Rankings for BRYC girls vs. boys, including the 2010s as that would be the first year the BRYC/Vienna partnership takes place:
Year Boys Girls
2010 25th 20th
2009 29th 40th
2008 14th 17th
2007 8th 18th
2006 16th 6th
2005 22nd 9th
03/04 5th 5th

Here are BRYC Boys vs. VYS Boys
Year BRYC VYS
2010 25th 9th
2009 29th 15th
2008 14th 17th
2007 8th 44th
2006 16th 49th
2005 22nd 24th
03/04 5th 35th

Perhaps not too much immediate help from VYS in some of the older years, but the VYS pipeline is strong if you look at the younger age groups -- there would be immediate help from 2010-2008, not including others from outside clubs that might come due to the new partnership.

Here are BRYC Girls vs. VYS Girls
Year BRYC VYS
2010 20th 3rd
2009 40th 9th
2008 17th 9th
2007 18th 25th
2006 6th 12th
2005 9th 19th
03/04 5th 9th

Obviously VYS brings a lot to the table here and you can again see the strong pipeline by looking at the younger age groups.

Overall this partnership makes a lot of sense as the clubs are geographically contiguous, BRYC needs/wants a larger player pool to supports its ECNL players, and VYS needs/wants the ECNL pathway for its top players. Most of the combined BRYC/VYS ECNL teams will be significantly stronger overnight than the existing BRYC teams (look what SYC did for the McLean 2008 girls), as VYS’ top players feed in masse into the BRYC/VYS entity.