College Recruiting In-state Status

Anonymous
So I'm checking out JMU's class of 2020, my alma mater, and one of the schools my DS born in 2006 selected as one of his top schools.

I'm genuinely impressed with the caliber of the players this school that when I attended was not known at all for their soccer team. We are in Prince William County and play for a ECNL RL team. I don't think even the legacy and his good grades will be able to help him play for this school.

https://jmusports.com/news/2020/6/15/jmu-mens-soccer-adds-13-newcomers-for-2020-season.aspx

Any parents out there that were looking into Virginia schools have experience with seeing international players with some international experience. We're you successful with your DC? How did you do it? Any parents wanting to share their current stories on college soccer recruiting for Virginia schools? I'm looking to learn from the success a d mistakes of others!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:So I'm checking out JMU's class of 2020, my alma mater, and one of the schools my DS born in 2006 selected as one of his top schools.

I'm genuinely impressed with the caliber of the players this school that when I attended was not known at all for their soccer team. We are in Prince William County and play for a ECNL RL team. I don't think even the legacy and his good grades will be able to help him play for this school.

https://jmusports.com/news/2020/6/15/jmu-mens-soccer-adds-13-newcomers-for-2020-season.aspx

Any parents out there that were looking into Virginia schools have experience with seeing international players with some international experience. We're you successful with your DC? How did you do it? Any parents wanting to share their current stories on college soccer recruiting for Virginia schools? I'm looking to learn from the success a d mistakes of others!



As long as you undestand that recruiting is reverse for boys soccer than other sports. You're recruiting the school to find a spot for your DS. The school is not looking for you like other revenue generating sports.
Anonymous
In soccer the top programs with mostly be international players.

If you really want to play and you are not a top player you need to find a team at your level.

Anonymous
"Jordan is a Virginia product who is as athletic and competitive as a player can get. He was an All-State and All-American high school player, tallying 42 goals and 54 assists in his career while setting multiple school records at The Heights School. He was named 2019 WCAC Player of the Year, which is one of the best high school leagues in America. He is strong in the air and is dangerous going forward from a defending position. He also possesses one of the most accurate and powerful thrown ins you will find in any level of soccer. Jordan has all tools to be a great defender in DI soccer for years to come."

Hyperbole much? lol
Anonymous
Easy on comments about a specific kid.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:In soccer the top programs with mostly be international players.

If you really want to play and you are not a top player you need to find a team at your level.


It is not true that most of the top programs have a majority of international players, and most coaches are consistent on this from year to year so you can look at the rosters over a several year span to set your expectations. The Marshall coach only seems to recruit over-age international players, for example, but this is not true of the Georgetown coach.

The nice thing about looking for in-state programs is that coaches will have an easier opportunity to see your kid, so you should cast a wide net within VA. Does ECNL RL mean a second tier ECNL team? If so, that’s going to be a heavy lift for a school like JMU. Is there a possibility for him to play for an MLSNext or ECNL team? It’s much easier to market yourself as a starter from a top team if you want to play D1. Good grades are helpful in recruiting, but legacy status is meaningless to coaches (though helpful for general admissions purposes if he doesn’t get re recruited but wants to attend anyway).
Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]Easy on comments about a specific kid.[/quote]
DP, but I don’t see a problem with quoting from a publicly available bio. The hyperbole is on the coaching staff, not the kid, and while the one line is a bit cringey, it’s all positive.
Anonymous
[quote=Anonymous]Easy on comments about a specific kid.[/quote]

Fair enough, but as was pointed out, I'm commenting on the writing (which was probably done by a freshman team manager), not the player.

I'm sure the player is a good kid who has a great throw-in--maybe the best in all of VYSA.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:So I'm checking out JMU's class of 2020, my alma mater, and one of the schools my DS born in 2006 selected as one of his top schools.

I'm genuinely impressed with the caliber of the players this school that when I attended was not known at all for their soccer team. We are in Prince William County and play for a ECNL RL team. I don't think even the legacy and his good grades will be able to help him play for this school.

https://jmusports.com/news/2020/6/15/jmu-mens-soccer-adds-13-newcomers-for-2020-season.aspx

Any parents out there that were looking into Virginia schools have experience with seeing international players with some international experience. We're you successful with your DC? How did you do it? Any parents wanting to share their current stories on college soccer recruiting for Virginia schools? I'm looking to learn from the success a d mistakes of others!


Different scenario because our experience is with girls. Financially, going to a Virginia public school is easier on the pocketbook, or appears to be (I am presuming this is the motivation). However, we had to widen our search because after we analyzed it, there just weren't that many schools that were good fits athletically and academically. In the end, we found that there were great solutions out of state with funding scenarios comparable to attending in-state. For many of these, you can't just look at the sticker price, because there is a massive range of incentives and variables out there. So my advice is not to limit yourself exclusively to in-state at this early phase. Develop the interest first, and let the financial answers come later. In the end, you may still have to rule out some offers due to finances, but they can still be useful leverage.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:So I'm checking out JMU's class of 2020, my alma mater, and one of the schools my DS born in 2006 selected as one of his top schools.

I'm genuinely impressed with the caliber of the players this school that when I attended was not known at all for their soccer team. We are in Prince William County and play for a ECNL RL team. I don't think even the legacy and his good grades will be able to help him play for this school.

https://jmusports.com/news/2020/6/15/jmu-mens-soccer-adds-13-newcomers-for-2020-season.aspx

Any parents out there that were looking into Virginia schools have experience with seeing international players with some international experience. We're you successful with your DC? How did you do it? Any parents wanting to share their current stories on college soccer recruiting for Virginia schools? I'm looking to learn from the success a d mistakes of others!


#entitlement
You're exactly right. JMU is a legit soccer program--no offense to your legacy, but, yeah, it won't matter one iota. And many of the Va.-based players on the roster were prolific HS players.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:So I'm checking out JMU's class of 2020, my alma mater, and one of the schools my DS born in 2006 selected as one of his top schools.

I'm genuinely impressed with the caliber of the players this school that when I attended was not known at all for their soccer team. We are in Prince William County and play for a ECNL RL team. I don't think even the legacy and his good grades will be able to help him play for this school.

https://jmusports.com/news/2020/6/15/jmu-mens-soccer-adds-13-newcomers-for-2020-season.aspx

Any parents out there that were looking into Virginia schools have experience with seeing international players with some international experience. We're you successful with your DC? How did you do it? Any parents wanting to share their current stories on college soccer recruiting for Virginia schools? I'm looking to learn from the success a d mistakes of others!


you're right. All coaches care about is that the grades are good enough that admissions will let the kid in. If he wants to play D1, he should find an ECNL or and MLSNext team, RL is not going to be scouted much and probably won't be at heavily scouted showcases or high brackets at tournaments
Anonymous
To original poster who said “I’m genuinely impressed with the caliber of the players this school that when I attended was not known at all for their soccer team.” When did you attend JMU because I think they went to the final 8 of the NCAA tournament when they won 3 straight conference titles in the early 90s. JMU men have been one of the best mid-major men’s soccer programs in the country over the last 30 years.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:In soccer the top programs with mostly be international players.

If you really want to play and you are not a top player you need to find a team at your level.


It is not true that most of the top programs have a majority of international players, and most coaches are consistent on this from year to year so you can look at the rosters over a several year span to set your expectations. The Marshall coach only seems to recruit over-age international players, for example, but this is not true of the Georgetown coach.

The nice thing about looking for in-state programs is that coaches will have an easier opportunity to see your kid, so you should cast a wide net within VA. Does ECNL RL mean a second tier ECNL team? If so, that’s going to be a heavy lift for a school like JMU. Is there a possibility for him to play for an MLSNext or ECNL team? It’s much easier to market yourself as a starter from a top team if you want to play D1. Good grades are helpful in recruiting, but legacy status is meaningless to coaches (though helpful for general admissions purposes if he doesn’t get re recruited but wants to attend anyway).


True Catholic colleges will be majority foreign/catholic school.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:To original poster who said “I’m genuinely impressed with the caliber of the players this school that when I attended was not known at all for their soccer team.” When did you attend JMU because I think they went to the final 8 of the NCAA tournament when they won 3 straight conference titles in the early 90s. JMU men have been one of the best mid-major men’s soccer programs in the country over the last 30 years.


OP here, I graduated in 2010. Not sure why that would matter though. While I attended we only talked about the basketball and football teams.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:To original poster who said “I’m genuinely impressed with the caliber of the players this school that when I attended was not known at all for their soccer team.” When did you attend JMU because I think they went to the final 8 of the NCAA tournament when they won 3 straight conference titles in the early 90s. JMU men have been one of the best mid-major men’s soccer programs in the country over the last 30 years.


OP here, I graduated in 2010. Not sure why that would matter though. While I attended we only talked about the basketball and football teams.


Same with VT in the 90s. I was a competitive female soccer player. Soccer was not a big deal at this school back then, nor JMU.
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