Where are the laid off feds supposed to work?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:PA wants you!!
Governor Shapiro is recruiting Feds who’ve been fired, laid off, whatever - priority given. Almost 6,000 positions to fill in PA state government. He signed executive order directing “fed experience” to equal “state experience”.

Thanks—there are some cool little towns outside of Philadelphia I’d be interested in moving to.

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I don't know if anyone is actually reading this anymore for ideas or if we're into full "feds fiddled while Rome burned!" derailment, but New York, Hawaii, Pennsylvania, and Maryland are creating efforts to recruit former feds into their state governments. Could be good for younger feds who are okay with moving. Keep an eye on what Maryland is doing. DC is also doing a huge jobs fair soon. Virginia is also theoretically interested but many haven't been impressed by their work so far; many of their employment pages go to broken links or have jobs listed that would have been fine very early in a career but don't make sense for someone who has invested a ton of resources into a higher degree.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is not like industry layoffs. They are dismantling your government. You may not care about federal employees as individuals but I am surprised at the lack of concern about what this means.

Most Feds will find employment, perhaps not in the cities they are in at the current moment, but the longer term problem is the brain drain.

I think a great many people feel the federal government is substantially bloated and don’t view it the same way as you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is not like industry layoffs. They are dismantling your government. You may not care about federal employees as individuals but I am surprised at the lack of concern about what this means.

Most Feds will find employment, perhaps not in the cities they are in at the current moment, but the longer term problem is the brain drain.

I think a great many people feel the federal government is substantially bloated and don’t view it the same way as you.

And yet, I have a better view of it than they do. They are uninformed.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:1.5 million people lost their job in like a 60 day period in Financial Crisis and I dont recall anyone in Govt caring

114 million people lost their job in 2020 due to Covid and I dont recall govt workers caring.

I was out of work in Covid with two kids in college laid off and I recall govt workers on the block throwing parties, going to their beach house, sleeping in late swimming in their pool getting full pay for doing nothing all day.

Even if every Fed lost their job there are only 2 million. A rounding error compared to Covid or Financial Crisis.

Sorry, what’s your source for the bolded?

Completely made up by nasty MaGA moron who wants to berate people who have lost their jobs and tell them they have no right to feel bad

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is not like industry layoffs. They are dismantling your government. You may not care about federal employees as individuals but I am surprised at the lack of concern about what this means.

Most Feds will find employment, perhaps not in the cities they are in at the current moment, but the longer term problem is the brain drain.

I think a great many people feel the federal government is substantially bloated and don’t view it the same way as you.

And yet, I have a better view of it than they do. They are uninformed.

That’s certainly one perspective.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is not like industry layoffs. They are dismantling your government. You may not care about federal employees as individuals but I am surprised at the lack of concern about what this means.

Most Feds will find employment, perhaps not in the cities they are in at the current moment, but the longer term problem is the brain drain.

I think a great many people feel the federal government is substantially bloated and don’t view it the same way as you.

And yet, I have a better view of it than they do. They are uninformed.

And how's your luck been convincing them of that?

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Anonymous wrote:Since no one seems to be offering real solutions, I'm going to ask again in the hopes that someone will: what sorts of jobs are professional, college-educated, white collar workers who have been 'reduced' from the federal government supposed to do? If a person is currently making 125,000 per year, taking a payout to 100,000 might be doable, but no one is going to waste their time making 30,000 per year at McDonalds. That won't even pay for child care. The question is: are there currently enough white collar jobs empty in the country to accommodate these people? And, if not, how does it benefit the country to have a large number of these individuals unemployed?

In the immortal words of Judge Smails, "the world needs ditch diggers, too."

Do you see how that comment is unhelpful? Why comment at all? Telling people who have become high-level, technical experts in health, education, biology, ecology, etc. to work as ditch diggers is absurd. How does that make the US better?

It wasn't meant to be helpful, quite obviously.

Like another PP, this thread has made it increasingly difficult to feel sorry for federal workers. I understand that everyone is the hero (or victim) of their own story, and that the impending layoffs will cause tremendous hardships for many people. I am absolutely sympathetic to that. But many posters on this thread take is a few steps further - that the federal layoffs - the loss of employment for federal workers - is what will crash the economy, and the country. That is effin' ridiculous. We are facing massive deterioration in services to vulnerable populations, at home and abroad; the elimination of the United States as the de factor leader of Western democracies; huge disruptions in international trade for reasons that aren't entirely clear; and a whole host of other problems. All "organized," if that's the word, by a vengeful narcissist and his ketamine-addled billionaire puppet (or puppetmaster, take your pick) who appears to be doing this for sh!ts and giggles. Anyone who things that unemployed federal workers competing for jobs with private sector workers is the biggest issue we have has their head so far up their own @ss that they can see out of their belly button.

So no, the comment wasn't meant to be helpful. It's meant to convey that on an individual, former federal workers need to do what they have to to provide for themselves and their families, and to resist the temptation to believe that what is happening to you is the greatest crisis facing the country. It isn't.

It may not be the greatest crisis in the country, but you're on page 65 of a thread in the "Jobs and Careers" forum. This isn't the place to discuss the impacts of massive service cuts, tariffs, and international relations. That's some serious derailing when people are concerned about their jobs *in the appropriate space in the forum.*

Also, layoffs of fed workers combined with cancelation of grants and contracts is obviously going to have negative economic impacts. It's not the only or worse thing going on, but it's far from a small drop in the bucket.

I agree with that. But as I said, there's a lot of people on this thread who are claiming that federal unemployment is the worst thing to happen to this country since WWII, and that it will lead to economic catastrophe. They're the ones derailing - I'm just calling them out for it.

I have seen multiple posts now describing how it is the combination of fed layoffs amongst other issues (i.e. the total dismantling of agencies, funding cuts, etc.) that is going to be an economic catastrophe. Obviously fed employment is unique in that what happens to these agencies has a much wider ripple effect than some start ups going under. I’ve read that anywhere from .5 to 2 private sector jobs are created from public sector jobs.

You get rid of regulatory agencies — suddenly you don’t need those practice areas as law firms. You get rid of the EPA — suddenly you don’t need environmental protection jobs.

Repeatedly throughout this thread people have pointed out the unique nature of these layoffs. Like it or not the economy is intertwined with these layoffs.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:PA wants you!!
Governor Shapiro is recruiting Feds who’ve been fired, laid off, whatever - priority given. Almost 6,000 positions to fill in PA state government. He signed executive order directing “fed experience” to equal “state experience”.

Thanks—there are some cool little towns outside of Philadelphia I’d be interested in moving to.

This is going to turn PA blue (er) so I’m all for it.

[Anonymous]

Gov. Moore said last week that MD will fast-track qualified and cleared former feds into teaching certification, but I can't find anything about this on maryland dot gov.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is not like industry layoffs. They are dismantling your government. You may not care about federal employees as individuals but I am surprised at the lack of concern about what this means.

Most Feds will find employment, perhaps not in the cities they are in at the current moment, but the longer term problem is the brain drain.

I think a great many people feel the federal government is substantially bloated and don’t view it the same way as you.

A great many people think that mice can be transgender and that “150 year olds” are receiving social security. So I’m not sure this is quite the argument you think it is.

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I don't think the whole "the federal government was fine, there's nothing to reduce" crowd is doing themselves any favors. It just makes them look ridiculous. We all know there is a huge amount of government waste, as well as spending on things that are not priorities for most Americans. Keep singing that tune, though -- I'm happy for Dems to keep telling voters the issue is their lying eyes.

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Anonymous wrote:This is not like industry layoffs. They are dismantling your government. You may not care about federal employees as individuals but I am surprised at the lack of concern about what this means.

Most Feds will find employment, perhaps not in the cities they are in at the current moment, but the longer term problem is the brain drain.

I think a great many people feel the federal government is substantially bloated and don’t view it the same way as you.

Often the same people who complain when they are on hold at SS or their refund does not arrive promptly or their highway does not get needed repairs...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is not like industry layoffs. They are dismantling your government. You may not care about federal employees as individuals but I am surprised at the lack of concern about what this means.

Most Feds will find employment, perhaps not in the cities they are in at the current moment, but the longer term problem is the brain drain.

I think a great many people feel the federal government is substantially bloated and don’t view it the same way as you.

And yet, I have a better view of it than they do. They are uninformed.

And how's your luck been convincing them of that?

No one wants to hear that they don’t know what they’re talking about—but it doesn’t make it any less true.

Regardless, that is not my job. That’s our elected officials’ jobs. People who know just as well as I do that most government agencies are incredibly lean, and could benefit from some restructuring and shifting of resources away from truly bloated programs at DOD, and other fraud ridden hellscapes, to better uses that improve voters lives.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is not like industry layoffs. They are dismantling your government. You may not care about federal employees as individuals but I am surprised at the lack of concern about what this means.

Most Feds will find employment, perhaps not in the cities they are in at the current moment, but the longer term problem is the brain drain.

I think a great many people feel the federal government is substantially bloated and don’t view it the same way as you.

Often the same people who complain when they are on hold at SS or their refund does not arrive promptly or their highway does not get needed repairs...

Funny that.