Offers - is there ever any wiggle room?

[Anonymous]

I know this is going to sound ridiculous but I'm going to ask anyway. If a kid is right on the bubble - like they ALMOST made the A team but there was someone who outperformed them - is there ever a scenario in which they end up getting onto the A team because another kid turns down their offer? We are prepared to accept the offer but multiple coaches have commented to me how it was SO CLOSE. This is U11 so it's not like we're heading to college recruiting or something Just a parent trying to see if there's any hope for my kid who is majorly bummed about this.

[Anonymous]

Just tell them you have an offer from a rival and you will be moved up right away

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just tell them you have an offer from a rival and you will be moved up right away

How horrible can you be?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just tell them you have an offer from a rival and you will be moved up right away

How horrible can you be?

np--

I would totally do this. They want money. Tell them your kid really wants this location but has a better offer at another club.

Otherwise I would not bet on getting on later. I would take that better offer and tryout again next year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just tell them you have an offer from a rival and you will be moved up right away

How horrible can you be?

I seen this 3 times at our club this spring among 4 teams

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just tell them you have an offer from a rival and you will be moved up right away

So your DC can sit on the bench all season. Great plan.

[Anonymous]

I've done it once, the coach apologized and they revised to offer to A team. They were planning on no movement with kids just playing up to get more experience

[Anonymous]

Just know that kids on that bubble can also be moved down no matter the offer. My son was given an A team offer at a young age and happily took it. Practiced in August with the team and did well but new kids showed up and the coach said he was going to be moving some kids to B for some games to help out. My son and at least one other ended up playing mostly on B that year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just know that kids on that bubble can also be moved down no matter the offer. My son was given an A team offer at a young age and happily took it. Practiced in August with the team and did well but new kids showed up and the coach said he was going to be moving some kids to B for some games to help out. My son and at least one other ended up playing mostly on B that year.

it depends on the wording of the offer. The offers that we've gotten have always been team specific not just club specific. They could ask, but we would say no

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just know that kids on that bubble can also be moved down no matter the offer. My son was given an A team offer at a young age and happily took it. Practiced in August with the team and did well but new kids showed up and the coach said he was going to be moving some kids to B for some games to help out. My son and at least one other ended up playing mostly on B that year.

This is OP - we have an offer in hand for the B team and that's where DC was this year. They've done well with the team, like the coach and the other kids, but were also told they'd have a good shot to make A next year, and now that they haven't, they've been told it was really close. There's always next year, but DC is kind of holding out hope since all the clubs are putting offers out now and I don't know whether that's realistic.

[Anonymous]

like they ALMOST made the A team but there was someone who outperformed them - is there ever a scenario in which they end up getting onto the A team because another kid turns down their offer?

Yes, we have had this happen, but not because we negotiated something. A kid turned down an offer for a higher team, and the club called us and asked if we would like a spot on a higher team than orignally offered. It was luck.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just know that kids on that bubble can also be moved down no matter the offer. My son was given an A team offer at a young age and happily took it. Practiced in August with the team and did well but new kids showed up and the coach said he was going to be moving some kids to B for some games to help out. My son and at least one other ended up playing mostly on B that year.

This is OP - we have an offer in hand for the B team and that's where DC was this year. They've done well with the team, like the coach and the other kids, but were also told they'd have a good shot to make A next year, and now that they haven't, they've been told it was really close. There's always next year, but DC is kind of holding out hope since all the clubs are putting offers out now and I don't know whether that's realistic.

Do you objectively think he belongs on the A team without question? If so, I'd move him to a new club because he has already been branded as a second tier player. If you also think "it's close" motivate the hell out of him to get him on the A team.

[Anonymous]

If another club is trying to win you over, let your club know and they might revise you up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just know that kids on that bubble can also be moved down no matter the offer. My son was given an A team offer at a young age and happily took it. Practiced in August with the team and did well but new kids showed up and the coach said he was going to be moving some kids to B for some games to help out. My son and at least one other ended up playing mostly on B that year.

This is OP - we have an offer in hand for the B team and that's where DC was this year. They've done well with the team, like the coach and the other kids, but were also told they'd have a good shot to make A next year, and now that they haven't, they've been told it was really close. There's always next year, but DC is kind of holding out hope since all the clubs are putting offers out now and I don't know whether that's realistic.

it sounds like they are stringing him along. If you have anything else in hand, I'd just say that DC is disappointed and had hoped to play A team and that since that won't happen he's decided to move elsewhere. Depending on the size of the club, they may value having him paying club dues enough to move him up

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just know that kids on that bubble can also be moved down no matter the offer. My son was given an A team offer at a young age and happily took it. Practiced in August with the team and did well but new kids showed up and the coach said he was going to be moving some kids to B for some games to help out. My son and at least one other ended up playing mostly on B that year.

This is OP - we have an offer in hand for the B team and that's where DC was this year. They've done well with the team, like the coach and the other kids, but were also told they'd have a good shot to make A next year, and now that they haven't, they've been told it was really close. There's always next year, but DC is kind of holding out hope since all the clubs are putting offers out now and I don't know whether that's realistic.

Do you objectively think he belongs on the A team without question? If so, I'd move him to a new club because he has already been branded as a second tier player. If you also think "it's close" motivate the hell out of him to get him on the A team.

Without question? I don't know, because I don't know the caliber of other kids who tried out from the outside (they did ID sessions separate from current player practices for the most part). But I believe the coaches if they say it was a tough call, and I know my DC was really embracing the additional challenge at the practices they were able to attend.