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The following article is from WUSA-9 news tonight. WHY did the NANNY run outside for help? Why not call 911??? And she is doing laundry down in the basement with no baby monitor. Sounds as though the baby was not napping and allowed to be roaming while the nanny was doing laundry. Now parents knock in home daycare when something happens. Time to see the tables turned when it is a Nanny with ONE child.
WASHINGTON, DC (WUSA) -- Despite the best efforts of Mayor Adrian Fenty's security detail, a baby in his neighborhood, brought to them for help Tuesday night, has died. Witnesses says a nanny ran out out of a house in the 4600 block of Argyle Terrace NW with a baby who wasn't breathing in her arms. She took the 10-month-old to the officers watching the Mayor's house, which is just around the corner. "The officers performed CPR to try and save the child's life, and they also called for assistance at the same time," Captain Mike Farish says. The child was pronounced dead at 9:30 p.m. at the hospital, about three hours later. Farish says they haven't ruled out foul play. "We are keeping an open mind and investigating this case like we would any other," Farish says. A man at the house, who identified himself as the child's dad, says he was in North Carolina when he was told to come home immediately because something had happened to his daughter. He says the nanny told him she was doing laundry in the basement and didn't have the baby monitor with her, and when she came back upstairs the little girl wasn't breathing. The Medical Examiner's Office is doing an autopsy. So far, no charges have been filed. |
This is a terrible tragedy and you are worried about what? What parents say about in-home daycares? You are scary. Grow some appropriate priorities and compassion. What a horrible thing for that family. |
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I am the OP. Yes, it was a terrible tragedy and believe me, I have compassion for those parents and my priorities are in the right place. However for all those self righteous parents out there who think that home daycare is where all these accidents happen, think again. It can happen anywhere. Heck, it can happen right there with the parent. But these days it is just easier to blame the in home providers because of their lack of education and what not.
Well believe me, my priorities would have been to do exactly how I was taught in class, call 911 and perform 911 on that baby. Sad that the nanny didnt do such a thing becasue that family may not be going through what they are. |
| My child stopped breathing when I was holding him (he died), and the Childrens ER doc said that 0% of babies who stop breathing who are not already hospitalized are successfully resucitated. 10% of hospitalized infants are successfully resucitated. The CPR class makes it sound stepwise, easy, and successful, if only you remember the 1-2-3, but on infants, it just does not work. In my case a nurse provided CPR within 3 minutes, and the EMT arrived within ~10 minutes, at Childrens in 30. My years of attendance at SIDS support groups have shown the inaccuracy of the 22:58 posters last comment, and a lot of guilt associated with her perspective. |
My condolences on the loss of your child. I would not want ANY parent to have to experience that. As for the guilt associated with my perspective? I have no guilt whatsoever so have no idea what you are talking about. I am stating what we are taught in our CPR/First aid class by a competent trainer and a competent company teaching the class and never have we been given any statistics of 0%. We are taught the sooner the CPR is administered the greater the chances are of the child surviving. At the very least, I would have rather been able to say I did something rather than to have to answer why I didnt. |
I don't sense guilt but rather an amazingly HUGE chip on your shoulder. In-home providers can be good or they can be lousy. Parents who criticize specific in-home providers for bad judgment or mistakes they've made have a right to do so and are not self-righteous. I don't advocate parents dismissing all in-home providers out of hand, but I am also sick and tired of in-home providers who come on this forum implying that they are all wonderful and anyone who criticizes them is a terrible parent. The attitude does not promote a positive image for said providers, in fact, just the opposite. And I stand by my original post: your bringing up your issues with parents criticizing in-home providers is terribly out of place in conjunction with this news story. It's crass and disrespectful, and it makes you look really, really bad. If you want to address that, start another thread. |
A chip on my shoulder? Not hardly. I hear parents on this board and other places I have gone claim a child is better in a center because there are more eyes which ensures a child wont be mistreated or anything bad wont happen. I have seen with my own eyes what some kids have been through in a center. Others will say that nannies are the way to go, one on one, no distractions, etc. Which is why I posted what I did, because it can and does happen even in the best situations. And then home daycare, where something is more likely to happen to the child becasue there is only one person, and they cant possibly watch and handle more than 2 kids and not have an assistant. The county doesnt require one to have an assistant when you only have 5 children. Only the states recognizes an assistant. There are times I shake my head because I have seen a multitude of parents who do not know how to handle their ONE child, yet the provider has no issues wth the child. i am not talking about any parent talking about a particular provider. yes, if you have gone and seen something happening then you should take action. I wholeheartedly agree. But to generalize all home daycares? I would have to say until you have walked a day in my shoes and done the job I do each day, then dont criticize something you dont know what you are talking about. When I told the county all I have learned on these boards, she told me it was hogwash and that centers are not always safer than in home care. |
| Yes, but you dont' have any experience with an infant in cardiac arrest. I do. (PP back). So you are generalizing about how an outcome could be different for an infant in cardiac arrest. I have many many stories, including my own, of situations where everything was done exactly by the CPR books, by trained professionals (like you claim to be) and the outcome was death. Of course, if the baby lived, the family wouldn't be at SIDS support. But the ER doc at Childrens says that none of them live. So, next time you go to CPR class, just ask. But give this nanny, and this family, a break. (Also, for all we know this baby fell down the steps, which would be different). |
Two points: 1) I have no idea why you posted this in the daycare forum and I'm pretty close to moving it to another. This exploitation of a horrible event to make an unrelated point (presumably) in support of your business is very sad. 2) I live a couple blocks from the house in question. Everyone here knows that the police are in front of Fenty's house 24/7. Short of administering first aid herself, the absolute quickest way for the babysitter to obtain emergency assistance was to do exactly what she did. The police have better training and better communications capabilities (they don't have to wait on hold when calling 911). |
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A bunch of narrow minded people who are not understanding my point. My point is That no center or nanny is better than an in home daycare. Accidents can and do happen anywhere - with a nanny, in a center, while with the parents or in a daycare home. What I am tired of seeing are parents who think in home daycare is unsafe, not well regulated, and the only place accidents can happen because the child must not have been supervised well enough, or the provider is uneducated and didnt know what to do, or for whatever reason.
Done wasting my time here. Feel free to move my post wherever you wish. |
| Please - the family in this report are friends of mine. Have respect for what they are going through and don't turn this in to a political discussion about the benefits of various types of child care. |
I think that would be you. |
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As a former CPR instructor for NICU parents, I would just like to correct a possible misperception stated previously.
To the mom who lost her baby, my deepest condolences. Most babies who develop life threatening situations go into respiratory arrest, ie their hearts are still beating, but they stop breathing. Mouth to mouth rescuscitation can provide oxygenation and keep the heart beating until rescue personnel arrive. If a baby is suffering from cardiac arrest, then that is a different story. I just wanted to make that distinction because I think it's important to know that rescue breathing can prevent cardiac arrest in certain situations. |
Are you for real????? |