Boys 2008 VA state rankings- lots of changes

[Anonymous]

I just saw this and was surprised to see no Arlington teams in the top 10. The highest rank is #15 for their Academy team.

https://home.gotsoccer.com/rankings/results.aspx?Level=State&Gender=Boys&Age=13&State=VA&pos=10&hl=1257611

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I just saw this and was surprised to see no Arlington teams in the top 10. The highest rank is #15 for their Academy team.

https://home.gotsoccer.com/rankings/results.aspx?Level=State&Gender=Boys&Age=13&State=VA&pos=10&hl=1257611

Gotsoccer isn't accurate for rankings. It is based on how many gotsoccer events you participate in. Playing ECNL games, for example, doesn't earn points, while CCL games do earn points.

Still not 100%, but YSR is a lot closer to reality. https://youthsoccerrankings.us/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I just saw this and was surprised to see no Arlington teams in the top 10. The highest rank is #15 for their Academy team.

https://home.gotsoccer.com/rankings/results.aspx?Level=State&Gender=Boys&Age=13&State=VA&pos=10&hl=1257611

You're probably trolling. But if not:

The 2008 team seems to be weaker than most of the Arlington teams so probably doesn't deserve to be all that high in any case. Equally gotsoccer is a bit silly. For example you get points for EDP league games, but not ECNL or MLS Next games.

So take the Arlington 2005 team for example. Got soccer ranks them behind Alexandria - but then look at the details. Alexandria got 4200 of its 6200 ranking points from playing in EDP. Arlington only played in one ranked competition - state cup, which it won, but has less points in total because got soccer doesn't count ECNL league games.

In general https://youthsoccerrankings.us/rankings/VA/13/Boys/ is better because it does at least count all games played, although still struggles to get the relative ranking between different leagues correct. YSR shows Arlington 08 boys as 6th in the state which is probably a better reflection of their ability - although not of Arlington's general quality across all age groups.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I just saw this and was surprised to see no Arlington teams in the top 10. The highest rank is #15 for their Academy team.

https://home.gotsoccer.com/rankings/results.aspx?Level=State&Gender=Boys&Age=13&State=VA&pos=10&hl=1257611

You're probably trolling. But if not:

The 2008 team seems to be weaker than most of the Arlington teams so probably doesn't deserve to be all that high in any case. Equally gotsoccer is a bit silly. For example you get points for EDP league games, but not ECNL or MLS Next games.

So take the Arlington 2005 team for example. Got soccer ranks them behind Alexandria - but then look at the details. Alexandria got 4200 of its 6200 ranking points from playing in EDP. Arlington only played in one ranked competition - state cup, which it won, but has less points in total because got soccer doesn't count ECNL league games.

In general https://youthsoccerrankings.us/rankings/VA/13/Boys/ is better because it does at least count all games played, although still struggles to get the relative ranking between different leagues correct. YSR shows Arlington 08 boys as 6th in the state which is probably a better reflection of their ability - although not of Arlington's general quality across all age groups.

I think we will continue to see declines for Arlington at these ages as the impact of migration from da to encl becomes evident. It doesn’t mean the Arlington talent moves to the mlsnext teams (though some might). It just means that there is no particular reason to travel further to play at Arlington vs any of the other ECNLs. Longer term you will see upside for McLean and BRYC out of all this.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I just saw this and was surprised to see no Arlington teams in the top 10. The highest rank is #15 for their Academy team.

https://home.gotsoccer.com/rankings/results.aspx?Level=State&Gender=Boys&Age=13&State=VA&pos=10&hl=1257611

Gotsoccer isn't accurate for rankings. It is based on how many gotsoccer events you participate in. Playing ECNL games, for example, doesn't earn points, while CCL games do earn points.

Still not 100%, but YSR is a lot closer to reality. https://youthsoccerrankings.us/

CCL games do not earn you points there. They just post some of the CCL game results to Gotsoccer.

[Anonymous]

VDA 2008 best team in the state

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just saw this and was surprised to see no Arlington teams in the top 10. The highest rank is #15 for their Academy team.

https://home.gotsoccer.com/rankings/results.aspx?Level=State&Gender=Boys&Age=13&State=VA&pos=10&hl=1257611

Gotsoccer isn't accurate for rankings. It is based on how many gotsoccer events you participate in. Playing ECNL games, for example, doesn't earn points, while CCL games do earn points.

Still not 100%, but YSR is a lot closer to reality. https://youthsoccerrankings.us/

CCL games do not earn you points there. They just post some of the CCL game results to Gotsoccer.

Looks like you get points for participating in CCL showcases, but not the league. In general - if an event pays gotsoccer to manage the event schedule / game record it appears to generate points. Otherwise not. Which might be good for gotsoccer's revenue generation, but is definitely not good for ranking accuracy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:VDA 2008 best team in the state

And yet Richmond tops the league table and won the head to head matchup.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I just saw this and was surprised to see no Arlington teams in the top 10. The highest rank is #15 for their Academy team.

https://home.gotsoccer.com/rankings/results.aspx?Level=State&Gender=Boys&Age=13&State=VA&pos=10&hl=1257611

You're probably trolling. But if not:

The 2008 team seems to be weaker than most of the Arlington teams so probably doesn't deserve to be all that high in any case. Equally gotsoccer is a bit silly. For example you get points for EDP league games, but not ECNL or MLS Next games.

So take the Arlington 2005 team for example. Got soccer ranks them behind Alexandria - but then look at the details. Alexandria got 4200 of its 6200 ranking points from playing in EDP. Arlington only played in one ranked competition - state cup, which it won, but has less points in total because got soccer doesn't count ECNL league games.

In general https://youthsoccerrankings.us/rankings/VA/13/Boys/ is better because it does at least count all games played, although still struggles to get the relative ranking between different leagues correct. YSR shows Arlington 08 boys as 6th in the state which is probably a better reflection of their ability - although not of Arlington's general quality across all age groups.

I think we will continue to see declines for Arlington at these ages as the impact of migration from da to encl becomes evident. It doesn’t mean the Arlington talent moves to the mlsnext teams (though some might). It just means that there is no particular reason to travel further to play at Arlington vs any of the other ECNLs. Longer term you will see upside for McLean and BRYC out of all this.

As long as there continues to be a clear difference in coaching I think Arlington will be fine - but Arlington will have to maintain that edge in order to maintain the gap. Whereas before DA would have allowed them to slack off and still draw kids.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I just saw this and was surprised to see no Arlington teams in the top 10. The highest rank is #15 for their Academy team.

https://home.gotsoccer.com/rankings/results.aspx?Level=State&Gender=Boys&Age=13&State=VA&pos=10&hl=1257611

You're probably trolling. But if not:

The 2008 team seems to be weaker than most of the Arlington teams so probably doesn't deserve to be all that high in any case. Equally gotsoccer is a bit silly. For example you get points for EDP league games, but not ECNL or MLS Next games.

So take the Arlington 2005 team for example. Got soccer ranks them behind Alexandria - but then look at the details. Alexandria got 4200 of its 6200 ranking points from playing in EDP. Arlington only played in one ranked competition - state cup, which it won, but has less points in total because got soccer doesn't count ECNL league games.

In general https://youthsoccerrankings.us/rankings/VA/13/Boys/ is better because it does at least count all games played, although still struggles to get the relative ranking between different leagues correct. YSR shows Arlington 08 boys as 6th in the state which is probably a better reflection of their ability - although not of Arlington's general quality across all age groups.

I think we will continue to see declines for Arlington at these ages as the impact of migration from da to encl becomes evident. It doesn’t mean the Arlington talent moves to the mlsnext teams (though some might). It just means that there is no particular reason to travel further to play at Arlington vs any of the other ECNLs. Longer term you will see upside for McLean and BRYC out of all this.

As long as there continues to be a clear difference in coaching I think Arlington will be fine - but Arlington will have to maintain that edge in order to maintain the gap. Whereas before DA would have allowed them to slack off and still draw kids.

There is not a clear difference. We will see what they do with these 08s. This is their second year with them and last year was just as ugly.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I just saw this and was surprised to see no Arlington teams in the top 10. The highest rank is #15 for their Academy team.

https://home.gotsoccer.com/rankings/results.aspx?Level=State&Gender=Boys&Age=13&State=VA&pos=10&hl=1257611

You're probably trolling. But if not:

The 2008 team seems to be weaker than most of the Arlington teams so probably doesn't deserve to be all that high in any case. Equally gotsoccer is a bit silly. For example you get points for EDP league games, but not ECNL or MLS Next games.

So take the Arlington 2005 team for example. Got soccer ranks them behind Alexandria - but then look at the details. Alexandria got 4200 of its 6200 ranking points from playing in EDP. Arlington only played in one ranked competition - state cup, which it won, but has less points in total because got soccer doesn't count ECNL league games.

In general https://youthsoccerrankings.us/rankings/VA/13/Boys/ is better because it does at least count all games played, although still struggles to get the relative ranking between different leagues correct. YSR shows Arlington 08 boys as 6th in the state which is probably a better reflection of their ability - although not of Arlington's general quality across all age groups.

I think we will continue to see declines for Arlington at these ages as the impact of migration from da to encl becomes evident. It doesn’t mean the Arlington talent moves to the mlsnext teams (though some might). It just means that there is no particular reason to travel further to play at Arlington vs any of the other ECNLs. Longer term you will see upside for McLean and BRYC out of all this.

As long as there continues to be a clear difference in coaching I think Arlington will be fine - but Arlington will have to maintain that edge in order to maintain the gap. Whereas before DA would have allowed them to slack off and still draw kids.

There is not a clear difference. We will see what they do with these 08s. This is their second year with them and last year was just as ugly.

They lost quite a few really good players early on due to the typical bs shenanigans.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I just saw this and was surprised to see no Arlington teams in the top 10. The highest rank is #15 for their Academy team.

https://home.gotsoccer.com/rankings/results.aspx?Level=State&Gender=Boys&Age=13&State=VA&pos=10&hl=1257611

You're probably trolling. But if not:

The 2008 team seems to be weaker than most of the Arlington teams so probably doesn't deserve to be all that high in any case. Equally gotsoccer is a bit silly. For example you get points for EDP league games, but not ECNL or MLS Next games.

So take the Arlington 2005 team for example. Got soccer ranks them behind Alexandria - but then look at the details. Alexandria got 4200 of its 6200 ranking points from playing in EDP. Arlington only played in one ranked competition - state cup, which it won, but has less points in total because got soccer doesn't count ECNL league games.

In general https://youthsoccerrankings.us/rankings/VA/13/Boys/ is better because it does at least count all games played, although still struggles to get the relative ranking between different leagues correct. YSR shows Arlington 08 boys as 6th in the state which is probably a better reflection of their ability - although not of Arlington's general quality across all age groups.

I think we will continue to see declines for Arlington at these ages as the impact of migration from da to encl becomes evident. It doesn’t mean the Arlington talent moves to the mlsnext teams (though some might). It just means that there is no particular reason to travel further to play at Arlington vs any of the other ECNLs. Longer term you will see upside for McLean and BRYC out of all this.

As long as there continues to be a clear difference in coaching I think Arlington will be fine - but Arlington will have to maintain that edge in order to maintain the gap. Whereas before DA would have allowed them to slack off and still draw kids.

There is not a clear difference. We will see what they do with these 08s. This is their second year with them and last year was just as ugly.

They lost quite a few really good players early on due to the typical bs shenanigans.

Early on this year? Early on last year? What shenanigans?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I just saw this and was surprised to see no Arlington teams in the top 10. The highest rank is #15 for their Academy team.

https://home.gotsoccer.com/rankings/results.aspx?Level=State&Gender=Boys&Age=13&State=VA&pos=10&hl=1257611

You're probably trolling. But if not:

The 2008 team seems to be weaker than most of the Arlington teams so probably doesn't deserve to be all that high in any case. Equally gotsoccer is a bit silly. For example you get points for EDP league games, but not ECNL or MLS Next games.

So take the Arlington 2005 team for example. Got soccer ranks them behind Alexandria - but then look at the details. Alexandria got 4200 of its 6200 ranking points from playing in EDP. Arlington only played in one ranked competition - state cup, which it won, but has less points in total because got soccer doesn't count ECNL league games.

In general https://youthsoccerrankings.us/rankings/VA/13/Boys/ is better because it does at least count all games played, although still struggles to get the relative ranking between different leagues correct. YSR shows Arlington 08 boys as 6th in the state which is probably a better reflection of their ability - although not of Arlington's general quality across all age groups.

I think we will continue to see declines for Arlington at these ages as the impact of migration from da to encl becomes evident. It doesn’t mean the Arlington talent moves to the mlsnext teams (though some might). It just means that there is no particular reason to travel further to play at Arlington vs any of the other ECNLs. Longer term you will see upside for McLean and BRYC out of all this.

As long as there continues to be a clear difference in coaching I think Arlington will be fine - but Arlington will have to maintain that edge in order to maintain the gap. Whereas before DA would have allowed them to slack off and still draw kids.

There is not a clear difference. We will see what they do with these 08s. This is their second year with them and last year was just as ugly.

Well I guess we disagree on the coaching. But it doesn't matter what we think - folks will vote with ther feet.

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Anonymous wrote:I just saw this and was surprised to see no Arlington teams in the top 10. The highest rank is #15 for their Academy team.

https://home.gotsoccer.com/rankings/results.aspx?Level=State&Gender=Boys&Age=13&State=VA&pos=10&hl=1257611

You're probably trolling. But if not:

The 2008 team seems to be weaker than most of the Arlington teams so probably doesn't deserve to be all that high in any case. Equally gotsoccer is a bit silly. For example you get points for EDP league games, but not ECNL or MLS Next games.

So take the Arlington 2005 team for example. Got soccer ranks them behind Alexandria - but then look at the details. Alexandria got 4200 of its 6200 ranking points from playing in EDP. Arlington only played in one ranked competition - state cup, which it won, but has less points in total because got soccer doesn't count ECNL league games.

In general https://youthsoccerrankings.us/rankings/VA/13/Boys/ is better because it does at least count all games played, although still struggles to get the relative ranking between different leagues correct. YSR shows Arlington 08 boys as 6th in the state which is probably a better reflection of their ability - although not of Arlington's general quality across all age groups.

I think we will continue to see declines for Arlington at these ages as the impact of migration from da to encl becomes evident. It doesn’t mean the Arlington talent moves to the mlsnext teams (though some might). It just means that there is no particular reason to travel further to play at Arlington vs any of the other ECNLs. Longer term you will see upside for McLean and BRYC out of all this.

As long as there continues to be a clear difference in coaching I think Arlington will be fine - but Arlington will have to maintain that edge in order to maintain the gap. Whereas before DA would have allowed them to slack off and still draw kids.

There is not a clear difference. We will see what they do with these 08s. This is their second year with them and last year was just as ugly.

They lost quite a few really good players early on due to the typical bs shenanigans.

Early on this year? Early on last year? What shenanigans?

Early on when the age group started. A lot of talent went to play for other Clubs.

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Anonymous wrote:I just saw this and was surprised to see no Arlington teams in the top 10. The highest rank is #15 for their Academy team.

https://home.gotsoccer.com/rankings/results.aspx?Level=State&Gender=Boys&Age=13&State=VA&pos=10&hl=1257611

You're probably trolling. But if not:

The 2008 team seems to be weaker than most of the Arlington teams so probably doesn't deserve to be all that high in any case. Equally gotsoccer is a bit silly. For example you get points for EDP league games, but not ECNL or MLS Next games.

So take the Arlington 2005 team for example. Got soccer ranks them behind Alexandria - but then look at the details. Alexandria got 4200 of its 6200 ranking points from playing in EDP. Arlington only played in one ranked competition - state cup, which it won, but has less points in total because got soccer doesn't count ECNL league games.

In general https://youthsoccerrankings.us/rankings/VA/13/Boys/ is better because it does at least count all games played, although still struggles to get the relative ranking between different leagues correct. YSR shows Arlington 08 boys as 6th in the state which is probably a better reflection of their ability - although not of Arlington's general quality across all age groups.

I think we will continue to see declines for Arlington at these ages as the impact of migration from da to encl becomes evident. It doesn’t mean the Arlington talent moves to the mlsnext teams (though some might). It just means that there is no particular reason to travel further to play at Arlington vs any of the other ECNLs. Longer term you will see upside for McLean and BRYC out of all this.

As long as there continues to be a clear difference in coaching I think Arlington will be fine - but Arlington will have to maintain that edge in order to maintain the gap. Whereas before DA would have allowed them to slack off and still draw kids.

There is not a clear difference. We will see what they do with these 08s. This is their second year with them and last year was just as ugly.

They lost quite a few really good players early on due to the typical bs shenanigans.

Early on this year? Early on last year? What shenanigans?

Early on when the age group started. A lot of talent went to play for other Clubs.

Right - but I guess the question then becomes: "Is, as I contend, the quality of the coaching at the academy level good enough to draw talented players to come and try out for Arlington and thus raise the talent level on this team? Or will they, without the draw of DA, fail to attract talent away from neighboring clubs and therefore fall back to mediocre alongside the other ECNL clubc in this area?"

Time will tell.