FCPS Boundary Review Updates

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It needs to be paused. Too many changes at once.

The incompetence that FairFACTS Matters has uncovered relating to the selection of BRAC members raises bigger issues as to whether those currently running FCPS and on the School Board could possibly be trusted with fair and valid county-wide boundary changes.

FCPS has never had a more incompetent Superintendent and School Board and they need to pause the boundary study, figure out how to improve their processes, and form a new advisory committee (one where obnoxious School Board shills aren't rewarded with seats for their long history of sucking up to the School Board) before doing any further work.

Fairfax matters discovered a typo on a spreadsheet, maybe. Theres a reason no legitimate new outlet is running that “story” except a local blog.

I see what you did there. What makes a news outlet “legitimate”? Is WaPo “legitimate” under Bezos. Is WTOP legitimate in their “hard hitting” reporting? Would a larger news outlet national (WaPo) or even regional (pick one) outlet report on such a local issue? Or would you expect a local, county news outlet to report on it:

https://www.fairfaxtimes.com/articles/area-residents-ask-what-happened-to-mother-no-35/article_b904ab6c-faac-11ef-9d3c-c3bb6b474982.html

Ah, but this particular reporter and this publication has reported on FCPS in the past so this must not be “legitimate.”

That is hilarious. Legitimately hilarious.

Thanks.

I really do not see how anyone can support the current boundary adjustment, given how obviously corrupted and biased the process has been shown to be:

“Scott Jones, a member of the local group FairFACTS Matters, which advocates on education issues, received a copy of the video and other documents in response to a Freedom of Information Act request by a local father. Parents and community members are now expressing outrage at the sequence of events captured in the video as they watch the segment on social media postings in local neighborhood groups.

The disclosure underscores deeper issues into the integrity, legitimacy, and transparency of the FCPS boundary review committee selection process, which requires members to sign non-disclosure agreements. The documents in the public records request included a file marked “Superintendent’s Boundary Review Committee,” which included a comment from Tracey Wynne, FCPS director of community relations, stating, “Each member has signed a limited non-disclosure agreement (NDA) in order to participate on the committee.”

For Jones, the selection process is “invalid” due to how FCPS officials allegedly mishandled it. He said the incident raises questions about whether FCPS officials intentionally selected only people who would rubber stamp the school district’s remapping of the district.

The public records documents released for the first time revealed all of the committee's members. A Dec. 11 Excel spreadsheet titled “Advisory Committee” includes the names of 87 people in a list marked “Confirmation NDA.” Of those listed, 22 are FCPS employees.

That poster doesn’t care about facts. She’s got her own alternative facts to fit her narrative of unwavering support for corrupt FCPS.

Gaslight much? “That poster,” was me, and you failed to realize I quoted a reputable media source:

https://www.fairfaxtimes.com/articles/area-residents-ask-what-happened-to-mother-no-35/article_b904ab6c-faac-11ef-9d3c-c3bb6b474982.html


Question for you PP: You work for FCPS don’t you?

I don't work for FCPS, because I know you will ask and I am not the poster you are responding to.

Fairfax Times is not a reputable source, it is pretty biased in its reporting. And the FairFacts group, or whatever it is call, is pretty biased. I was on the FairFacts FB page for a while and there is a real bias there.

I don't think kids should be moved to rebalnace economic imbalances in the county. I do think that kids need to be moved to decrease enrollment at schools that are over capacity.

I think that IB should be dropped, and students should return to their base schools.

I think that we should be using the existing space that we have instead of expanding capacity at overcrowded schools. I don't think schools udnergoing a renovation should be expanded just because there is a renovation ongoing.

I think that schools that need to be renovated should be renovated, although that is technically a different conversation. It is a legitimate complaint that schools like McLean are falling apart and should be moved up in the renovation cue.

I understand that boundrary changes are disruptive and people don't like them but that doesn't mean there are not valid reasons for doing them. I don't think that FCPS is talking about these shifts for the right reasons, the focus on moving kids to balance FARMs rates in inappropriate. Some kids might be shifted to reduce overcrowding to a school that is a lower FARMs rate because the school closest by has a higher percentage of FARMs kids but a geographic shift possible.

The efforts of the people strongly opposed to redistricting to shut down anyone whose opinion disagrees with theirs is problematic. FCPS didn't need to hrie consultants to do this, they needed maps and people to look at the maps and make adjustments based on relieving overcrowded schools based on geography.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What was the reason for declaring so many people ineligible? Look how low some of the numbers are-6 parents total from Centreville pyramid?

Is it because people didn’t reply to all the emails that they sent, or didn’t fill out the form fully? I’m just spitballing. It would be nice if they would actually say the reason because otherwise, people are going to assume the worst, and maybe with good reason. Like some kind of cross-check of who was involved with groups critical of the school board like OpenFCPS and the previous boundary discussion groups.

It appears that if a household had 2 people apply for the committee (presumably spouses which was not disallowed by the application and emails) FCPS threw out the second parent/spouse before selecting the committee. This should not have happened.

There was also at least one person (#35) who was publicly against rezoning, who was removed from the committee list after being selected by the random number generator.

This type of incompetence, accompanied by intentional bias, demonstrates why Reid must go and this advisory committee must be disbanded.

State AG Jason Miyares and the VDOE need to be investigating those involved in this fiasco.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It needs to be paused. Too many changes at once.

The incompetence that FairFACTS Matters has uncovered relating to the selection of BRAC members raises bigger issues as to whether those currently running FCPS and on the School Board could possibly be trusted with fair and valid county-wide boundary changes.

FCPS has never had a more incompetent Superintendent and School Board and they need to pause the boundary study, figure out how to improve their processes, and form a new advisory committee (one where obnoxious School Board shills aren't rewarded with seats for their long history of sucking up to the School Board) before doing any further work.

Fairfax matters discovered a typo on a spreadsheet, maybe. Theres a reason no legitimate new outlet is running that “story” except a local blog.

I see what you did there. What makes a news outlet “legitimate”? Is WaPo “legitimate” under Bezos. Is WTOP legitimate in their “hard hitting” reporting? Would a larger news outlet national (WaPo) or even regional (pick one) outlet report on such a local issue? Or would you expect a local, county news outlet to report on it:

https://www.fairfaxtimes.com/articles/area-residents-ask-what-happened-to-mother-no-35/article_b904ab6c-faac-11ef-9d3c-c3bb6b474982.html

Ah, but this particular reporter and this publication has reported on FCPS in the past so this must not be “legitimate.”

That is hilarious. Legitimately hilarious.

Thanks.

I really do not see how anyone can support the current boundary adjustment, given how obviously corrupted and biased the process has been shown to be:

“Scott Jones, a member of the local group FairFACTS Matters, which advocates on education issues, received a copy of the video and other documents in response to a Freedom of Information Act request by a local father. Parents and community members are now expressing outrage at the sequence of events captured in the video as they watch the segment on social media postings in local neighborhood groups.

The disclosure underscores deeper issues into the integrity, legitimacy, and transparency of the FCPS boundary review committee selection process, which requires members to sign non-disclosure agreements. The documents in the public records request included a file marked “Superintendent’s Boundary Review Committee,” which included a comment from Tracey Wynne, FCPS director of community relations, stating, “Each member has signed a limited non-disclosure agreement (NDA) in order to participate on the committee.”

For Jones, the selection process is “invalid” due to how FCPS officials allegedly mishandled it. He said the incident raises questions about whether FCPS officials intentionally selected only people who would rubber stamp the school district’s remapping of the district.

The public records documents released for the first time revealed all of the committee's members. A Dec. 11 Excel spreadsheet titled “Advisory Committee” includes the names of 87 people in a list marked “Confirmation NDA.” Of those listed, 22 are FCPS employees.

That poster doesn’t care about facts. She’s got her own alternative facts to fit her narrative of unwavering support for corrupt FCPS.

Gaslight much? “That poster,” was me, and you failed to realize I quoted a reputable media source:

https://www.fairfaxtimes.com/articles/area-residents-ask-what-happened-to-mother-no-35/article_b904ab6c-faac-11ef-9d3c-c3bb6b474982.html


Question for you PP: You work for FCPS don’t you?

If PP worked for FCPS and were truthful, then corruption, lack of transparency, and inept Leadership (Reid) would be a given. Until FCPS gets a new Superintendent and competent SB members, the decline will continue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It needs to be paused. Too many changes at once.

The incompetence that FairFACTS Matters has uncovered relating to the selection of BRAC members raises bigger issues as to whether those currently running FCPS and on the School Board could possibly be trusted with fair and valid county-wide boundary changes.

FCPS has never had a more incompetent Superintendent and School Board and they need to pause the boundary study, figure out how to improve their processes, and form a new advisory committee (one where obnoxious School Board shills aren't rewarded with seats for their long history of sucking up to the School Board) before doing any further work.

Fairfax matters discovered a typo on a spreadsheet, maybe. Theres a reason no legitimate new outlet is running that “story” except a local blog.

I see what you did there. What makes a news outlet “legitimate”? Is WaPo “legitimate” under Bezos. Is WTOP legitimate in their “hard hitting” reporting? Would a larger news outlet national (WaPo) or even regional (pick one) outlet report on such a local issue? Or would you expect a local, county news outlet to report on it:

https://www.fairfaxtimes.com/articles/area-residents-ask-what-happened-to-mother-no-35/article_b904ab6c-faac-11ef-9d3c-c3bb6b474982.html

Ah, but this particular reporter and this publication has reported on FCPS in the past so this must not be “legitimate.”

That is hilarious. Legitimately hilarious.

Thanks.

I really do not see how anyone can support the current boundary adjustment, given how obviously corrupted and biased the process has been shown to be:

“Scott Jones, a member of the local group FairFACTS Matters, which advocates on education issues, received a copy of the video and other documents in response to a Freedom of Information Act request by a local father. Parents and community members are now expressing outrage at the sequence of events captured in the video as they watch the segment on social media postings in local neighborhood groups.

The disclosure underscores deeper issues into the integrity, legitimacy, and transparency of the FCPS boundary review committee selection process, which requires members to sign non-disclosure agreements. The documents in the public records request included a file marked “Superintendent’s Boundary Review Committee,” which included a comment from Tracey Wynne, FCPS director of community relations, stating, “Each member has signed a limited non-disclosure agreement (NDA) in order to participate on the committee.”

For Jones, the selection process is “invalid” due to how FCPS officials allegedly mishandled it. He said the incident raises questions about whether FCPS officials intentionally selected only people who would rubber stamp the school district’s remapping of the district.

The public records documents released for the first time revealed all of the committee's members. A Dec. 11 Excel spreadsheet titled “Advisory Committee” includes the names of 87 people in a list marked “Confirmation NDA.” Of those listed, 22 are FCPS employees.

That poster doesn’t care about facts. She’s got her own alternative facts to fit her narrative of unwavering support for corrupt FCPS.

Gaslight much? “That poster,” was me, and you failed to realize I quoted a reputable media source:

https://www.fairfaxtimes.com/articles/area-residents-ask-what-happened-to-mother-no-35/article_b904ab6c-faac-11ef-9d3c-c3bb6b474982.html


Question for you PP: You work for FCPS don’t you?

I don't work for FCPS, because I know you will ask and I am not the poster you are responding to.

Fairfax Times is not a reputable source, it is pretty biased in its reporting. And the FairFacts group, or whatever it is call, is pretty biased. I was on the FairFacts FB page for a while and there is a real bias there.

I don't think kids should be moved to rebalnace economic imbalances in the county. I do think that kids need to be moved to decrease enrollment at schools that are over capacity.

I think that IB should be dropped, and students should return to their base schools.

I think that we should be using the existing space that we have instead of expanding capacity at overcrowded schools. I don't think schools udnergoing a renovation should be expanded just because there is a renovation ongoing.

I think that schools that need to be renovated should be renovated, although that is technically a different conversation. It is a legitimate complaint that schools like McLean are falling apart and should be moved up in the renovation cue.

I understand that boundrary changes are disruptive and people don't like them but that doesn't mean there are not valid reasons for doing them. I don't think that FCPS is talking about these shifts for the right reasons, the focus on moving kids to balance FARMs rates in inappropriate. Some kids might be shifted to reduce overcrowding to a school that is a lower FARMs rate because the school closest by has a higher percentage of FARMs kids but a geographic shift possible.

The efforts of the people strongly opposed to redistricting to shut down anyone whose opinion disagrees with theirs is problematic. FCPS didn't need to hrie consultants to do this, they needed maps and people to look at the maps and make adjustments based on relieving overcrowded schools based on geography.

DP. Thanks for sharing all your opinions yet again. You’re every bit as biased as anyone writing an article in the Fairfax Times - just more lacking in any self-awareness.

Have you considered getting a dog? They might be more likely to hang on every word you utter, since there’s always the chance it could involve food or a walk.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Interesting:

I was not an applicant in my high school pyramid. When the list first came out, there was only one selected from my pyramid on there with the other being TBA. There are two there now--and from what I have determined from googling, they are both in the same elementary school boundary. I may be wrong about that, but it does not seem fair to me if it is true.

I did wonder if another second person on the list refused to sign the NDA. Doesn't it seem a little odd that the people representing the community are not supposed to share information?

Not only does this affect the high school boundary, but also all the other elementary school boundaries. Aren't these people supposed to represent the whole pyramid?

This whole process, from the very beginning, smells. We have at least two Hispanic organizations represented, two African American organizations, multiple special ed organizations, etc. AAP is represented. All these special interests and yet an organization that challenges FCPS on some decisions is not there.

Our pyramid had two parents selected from one elementary.

Neither one of them were school board activists until they heard their kids might be rezoned and they tried to get involved to advocate against rezoning. They are not connected in any way, except for both getting picked for the committee.

I have been following this closely since it started last year, and I can say with almost 100% certainty, that the two parents zoned for the same elementary in our case is completely random and not due to FCPS shenanigans.

It might have occurred because that elementary zone organized quite early in the process, last summer, so it had a very high percentage of involved parents following school board meetings and opening FCPS emails, resulting in very large numbers of people from that elementary applying for the rezoning committee.

I would wager that if Fairfacts releases the number of people that applied for the committee by elementary school zone, the elementary those 2 parents are from would be at least half of the applicants on the list for our high school zone. I personally know of dozens of parents from our elementary zone who applied for the committee in my smal sample size.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It needs to be paused. Too many changes at once.

The incompetence that FairFACTS Matters has uncovered relating to the selection of BRAC members raises bigger issues as to whether those currently running FCPS and on the School Board could possibly be trusted with fair and valid county-wide boundary changes.

FCPS has never had a more incompetent Superintendent and School Board and they need to pause the boundary study, figure out how to improve their processes, and form a new advisory committee (one where obnoxious School Board shills aren't rewarded with seats for their long history of sucking up to the School Board) before doing any further work.

Fairfax matters discovered a typo on a spreadsheet, maybe. Theres a reason no legitimate new outlet is running that “story” except a local blog.

I see what you did there. What makes a news outlet “legitimate”? Is WaPo “legitimate” under Bezos. Is WTOP legitimate in their “hard hitting” reporting? Would a larger news outlet national (WaPo) or even regional (pick one) outlet report on such a local issue? Or would you expect a local, county news outlet to report on it:

https://www.fairfaxtimes.com/articles/area-residents-ask-what-happened-to-mother-no-35/article_b904ab6c-faac-11ef-9d3c-c3bb6b474982.html

Ah, but this particular reporter and this publication has reported on FCPS in the past so this must not be “legitimate.”

That is hilarious. Legitimately hilarious.

Thanks.

I really do not see how anyone can support the current boundary adjustment, given how obviously corrupted and biased the process has been shown to be:

“Scott Jones, a member of the local group FairFACTS Matters, which advocates on education issues, received a copy of the video and other documents in response to a Freedom of Information Act request by a local father. Parents and community members are now expressing outrage at the sequence of events captured in the video as they watch the segment on social media postings in local neighborhood groups.

The disclosure underscores deeper issues into the integrity, legitimacy, and transparency of the FCPS boundary review committee selection process, which requires members to sign non-disclosure agreements. The documents in the public records request included a file marked “Superintendent’s Boundary Review Committee,” which included a comment from Tracey Wynne, FCPS director of community relations, stating, “Each member has signed a limited non-disclosure agreement (NDA) in order to participate on the committee.”

For Jones, the selection process is “invalid” due to how FCPS officials allegedly mishandled it. He said the incident raises questions about whether FCPS officials intentionally selected only people who would rubber stamp the school district’s remapping of the district.

The public records documents released for the first time revealed all of the committee's members. A Dec. 11 Excel spreadsheet titled “Advisory Committee” includes the names of 87 people in a list marked “Confirmation NDA.” Of those listed, 22 are FCPS employees.

That poster doesn’t care about facts. She’s got her own alternative facts to fit her narrative of unwavering support for corrupt FCPS.

Gaslight much? “That poster,” was me, and you failed to realize I quoted a reputable media source:

https://www.fairfaxtimes.com/articles/area-residents-ask-what-happened-to-mother-no-35/article_b904ab6c-faac-11ef-9d3c-c3bb6b474982.html


Question for you PP: You work for FCPS don’t you?

I don't work for FCPS, because I know you will ask and I am not the poster you are responding to.

Fairfax Times is not a reputable source, it is pretty biased in its reporting. And the FairFacts group, or whatever it is call, is pretty biased. I was on the FairFacts FB page for a while and there is a real bias there.

I don't think kids should be moved to rebalnace economic imbalances in the county. I do think that kids need to be moved to decrease enrollment at schools that are over capacity.

I think that IB should be dropped, and students should return to their base schools.

I think that we should be using the existing space that we have instead of expanding capacity at overcrowded schools. I don't think schools udnergoing a renovation should be expanded just because there is a renovation ongoing.

I think that schools that need to be renovated should be renovated, although that is technically a different conversation. It is a legitimate complaint that schools like McLean are falling apart and should be moved up in the renovation cue.

I understand that boundrary changes are disruptive and people don't like them but that doesn't mean there are not valid reasons for doing them. I don't think that FCPS is talking about these shifts for the right reasons, the focus on moving kids to balance FARMs rates in inappropriate. Some kids might be shifted to reduce overcrowding to a school that is a lower FARMs rate because the school closest by has a higher percentage of FARMs kids but a geographic shift possible.

The efforts of the people strongly opposed to redistricting to shut down anyone whose opinion disagrees with theirs is problematic. FCPS didn't need to hrie consultants to do this, they needed maps and people to look at the maps and make adjustments based on relieving overcrowded schools based on geography.

Fairfax Times does meticulous investigative reporting. They broke the Hayfield scandal months before everyone else.

Their issue is that in the midst of their very good reporting, they throw in a bit too much editorial and hyperbole, with a right wing bent. But the reporting is sound, thoroughly researched, and supported by extensive FIOA requests.

They do some of the best investigative reporting anywhere in the area.

If they had a left wing bent, even with the same amount of editorial and hyperbole, you would be falling all over yourself to laud them for their journalism.

Don't let the messenger get in the way of their very valid investigative reporting.

Look beyond your political biases to see the extensive facts behind their reporting.

[Anonymous]

Fairfax Times is a reputable source. Their journalists do real research. You might not like the political views of their journalists, but the reporting is solid and accurate. The Post has completely given up on any kind of local reporting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Fairfax Times is a reputable source. Their journalists do real research. You might not like the political views of their journalists, but the reporting is solid and accurate. The Post has completely given up on any kind of local reporting.

Yes.

They FIOA things and first person source stuff, using official government websites and documents.

Their research is impeccable.

Overlook some of their politicsl language, and use their articles to do your own verification research.

You will rapidly discover that their reporting is top notch and completely supported by facts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Fairfax Times is a reputable source. Their journalists do real research. You might not like the political views of their journalists, but the reporting is solid and accurate. The Post has completely given up on any kind of local reporting.

Yes.

They FIOA things and first person source stuff, using official government websites and documents.

Their research is impeccable.

Overlook some of their politicsl language, and use their articles to do your own verification research.

You will rapidly discover that their reporting is top notch and completely supported by facts.

I mean, some of it is? Some of it isn't. It just depends on the reporter. They've published some pretty sketchy things as well as some very good reporting. They aren't holding up NYT-level editorial standards but they're better than nothing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It needs to be paused. Too many changes at once.

The incompetence that FairFACTS Matters has uncovered relating to the selection of BRAC members raises bigger issues as to whether those currently running FCPS and on the School Board could possibly be trusted with fair and valid county-wide boundary changes.

FCPS has never had a more incompetent Superintendent and School Board and they need to pause the boundary study, figure out how to improve their processes, and form a new advisory committee (one where obnoxious School Board shills aren't rewarded with seats for their long history of sucking up to the School Board) before doing any further work.

Fairfax matters discovered a typo on a spreadsheet, maybe. Theres a reason no legitimate new outlet is running that “story” except a local blog.

I see what you did there. What makes a news outlet “legitimate”? Is WaPo “legitimate” under Bezos. Is WTOP legitimate in their “hard hitting” reporting? Would a larger news outlet national (WaPo) or even regional (pick one) outlet report on such a local issue? Or would you expect a local, county news outlet to report on it:

https://www.fairfaxtimes.com/articles/area-residents-ask-what-happened-to-mother-no-35/article_b904ab6c-faac-11ef-9d3c-c3bb6b474982.html

Ah, but this particular reporter and this publication has reported on FCPS in the past so this must not be “legitimate.”

That is hilarious. Legitimately hilarious.

Thanks.

I really do not see how anyone can support the current boundary adjustment, given how obviously corrupted and biased the process has been shown to be:

“Scott Jones, a member of the local group FairFACTS Matters, which advocates on education issues, received a copy of the video and other documents in response to a Freedom of Information Act request by a local father. Parents and community members are now expressing outrage at the sequence of events captured in the video as they watch the segment on social media postings in local neighborhood groups.

The disclosure underscores deeper issues into the integrity, legitimacy, and transparency of the FCPS boundary review committee selection process, which requires members to sign non-disclosure agreements. The documents in the public records request included a file marked “Superintendent’s Boundary Review Committee,” which included a comment from Tracey Wynne, FCPS director of community relations, stating, “Each member has signed a limited non-disclosure agreement (NDA) in order to participate on the committee.”

For Jones, the selection process is “invalid” due to how FCPS officials allegedly mishandled it. He said the incident raises questions about whether FCPS officials intentionally selected only people who would rubber stamp the school district’s remapping of the district.

The public records documents released for the first time revealed all of the committee's members. A Dec. 11 Excel spreadsheet titled “Advisory Committee” includes the names of 87 people in a list marked “Confirmation NDA.” Of those listed, 22 are FCPS employees.

That poster doesn’t care about facts. She’s got her own alternative facts to fit her narrative of unwavering support for corrupt FCPS.

Gaslight much? “That poster,” was me, and you failed to realize I quoted a reputable media source:

https://www.fairfaxtimes.com/articles/area-residents-ask-what-happened-to-mother-no-35/article_b904ab6c-faac-11ef-9d3c-c3bb6b474982.html


Question for you PP: You work for FCPS don’t you?

I don't work for FCPS, because I know you will ask and I am not the poster you are responding to.

Fairfax Times is not a reputable source, it is pretty biased in its reporting. And the FairFacts group, or whatever it is call, is pretty biased. I was on the FairFacts FB page for a while and there is a real bias there.

I don't think kids should be moved to rebalnace economic imbalances in the county. I do think that kids need to be moved to decrease enrollment at schools that are over capacity.

I think that IB should be dropped, and students should return to their base schools.

I think that we should be using the existing space that we have instead of expanding capacity at overcrowded schools. I don't think schools udnergoing a renovation should be expanded just because there is a renovation ongoing.

I think that schools that need to be renovated should be renovated, although that is technically a different conversation. It is a legitimate complaint that schools like McLean are falling apart and should be moved up in the renovation cue.

I understand that boundrary changes are disruptive and people don't like them but that doesn't mean there are not valid reasons for doing them. I don't think that FCPS is talking about these shifts for the right reasons, the focus on moving kids to balance FARMs rates in inappropriate. Some kids might be shifted to reduce overcrowding to a school that is a lower FARMs rate because the school closest by has a higher percentage of FARMs kids but a geographic shift possible.

The efforts of the people strongly opposed to redistricting to shut down anyone whose opinion disagrees with theirs is problematic. FCPS didn't need to hrie consultants to do this, they needed maps and people to look at the maps and make adjustments based on relieving overcrowded schools based on geography.

Fairfax Times does meticulous investigative reporting. They broke the Hayfield scandal months before everyone else.

Their issue is that in the midst of their very good reporting, they throw in a bit too much editorial and hyperbole, with a right wing bent. But the reporting is sound, thoroughly researched, and supported by extensive FIOA requests.

They do some of the best investigative reporting anywhere in the area.

If they had a left wing bent, even with the same amount of editorial and hyperbole, you would be falling all over yourself to laud them for their journalism.

Don't let the messenger get in the way of their very valid investigative reporting.

Look beyond your political biases to see the extensive facts behind their reporting.

Looks like someone works for Fairfax Times.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Fairfax Times is a reputable source. Their journalists do real research. You might not like the political views of their journalists, but the reporting is solid and accurate. The Post has completely given up on any kind of local reporting.

Asra does good research with a strong bias. This article isn’t written by Asra. It has no reporting beyond quotes from fair facts matter (a ridiculously biased group) and Kyle McDaniel. Did the reporter watch the video and review all the FOIA materials themselves? Who knows? Why isn’t there a quote from reid? Its her committee, not the SBs.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It needs to be paused. Too many changes at once.

The incompetence that FairFACTS Matters has uncovered relating to the selection of BRAC members raises bigger issues as to whether those currently running FCPS and on the School Board could possibly be trusted with fair and valid county-wide boundary changes.

FCPS has never had a more incompetent Superintendent and School Board and they need to pause the boundary study, figure out how to improve their processes, and form a new advisory committee (one where obnoxious School Board shills aren't rewarded with seats for their long history of sucking up to the School Board) before doing any further work.

Fairfax matters discovered a typo on a spreadsheet, maybe. Theres a reason no legitimate new outlet is running that “story” except a local blog.

I see what you did there. What makes a news outlet “legitimate”? Is WaPo “legitimate” under Bezos. Is WTOP legitimate in their “hard hitting” reporting? Would a larger news outlet national (WaPo) or even regional (pick one) outlet report on such a local issue? Or would you expect a local, county news outlet to report on it:

https://www.fairfaxtimes.com/articles/area-residents-ask-what-happened-to-mother-no-35/article_b904ab6c-faac-11ef-9d3c-c3bb6b474982.html

Ah, but this particular reporter and this publication has reported on FCPS in the past so this must not be “legitimate.”

That is hilarious. Legitimately hilarious.

Thanks.

I really do not see how anyone can support the current boundary adjustment, given how obviously corrupted and biased the process has been shown to be:

“Scott Jones, a member of the local group FairFACTS Matters, which advocates on education issues, received a copy of the video and other documents in response to a Freedom of Information Act request by a local father. Parents and community members are now expressing outrage at the sequence of events captured in the video as they watch the segment on social media postings in local neighborhood groups.

The disclosure underscores deeper issues into the integrity, legitimacy, and transparency of the FCPS boundary review committee selection process, which requires members to sign non-disclosure agreements. The documents in the public records request included a file marked “Superintendent’s Boundary Review Committee,” which included a comment from Tracey Wynne, FCPS director of community relations, stating, “Each member has signed a limited non-disclosure agreement (NDA) in order to participate on the committee.”

For Jones, the selection process is “invalid” due to how FCPS officials allegedly mishandled it. He said the incident raises questions about whether FCPS officials intentionally selected only people who would rubber stamp the school district’s remapping of the district.

The public records documents released for the first time revealed all of the committee's members. A Dec. 11 Excel spreadsheet titled “Advisory Committee” includes the names of 87 people in a list marked “Confirmation NDA.” Of those listed, 22 are FCPS employees.

That poster doesn’t care about facts. She’s got her own alternative facts to fit her narrative of unwavering support for corrupt FCPS.

Gaslight much? “That poster,” was me, and you failed to realize I quoted a reputable media source:

https://www.fairfaxtimes.com/articles/area-residents-ask-what-happened-to-mother-no-35/article_b904ab6c-faac-11ef-9d3c-c3bb6b474982.html


Question for you PP: You work for FCPS don’t you?

I don't work for FCPS, because I know you will ask and I am not the poster you are responding to.

Fairfax Times is not a reputable source, it is pretty biased in its reporting. And the FairFacts group, or whatever it is call, is pretty biased. I was on the FairFacts FB page for a while and there is a real bias there.

I don't think kids should be moved to rebalnace economic imbalances in the county. I do think that kids need to be moved to decrease enrollment at schools that are over capacity.

I think that IB should be dropped, and students should return to their base schools.

I think that we should be using the existing space that we have instead of expanding capacity at overcrowded schools. I don't think schools udnergoing a renovation should be expanded just because there is a renovation ongoing.

I think that schools that need to be renovated should be renovated, although that is technically a different conversation. It is a legitimate complaint that schools like McLean are falling apart and should be moved up in the renovation cue.

I understand that boundrary changes are disruptive and people don't like them but that doesn't mean there are not valid reasons for doing them. I don't think that FCPS is talking about these shifts for the right reasons, the focus on moving kids to balance FARMs rates in inappropriate. Some kids might be shifted to reduce overcrowding to a school that is a lower FARMs rate because the school closest by has a higher percentage of FARMs kids but a geographic shift possible.

The efforts of the people strongly opposed to redistricting to shut down anyone whose opinion disagrees with theirs is problematic. FCPS didn't need to hrie consultants to do this, they needed maps and people to look at the maps and make adjustments based on relieving overcrowded schools based on geography.

Fairfax Times does meticulous investigative reporting. They broke the Hayfield scandal months before everyone else.

Their issue is that in the midst of their very good reporting, they throw in a bit too much editorial and hyperbole, with a right wing bent. But the reporting is sound, thoroughly researched, and supported by extensive FIOA requests.

They do some of the best investigative reporting anywhere in the area.

If they had a left wing bent, even with the same amount of editorial and hyperbole, you would be falling all over yourself to laud them for their journalism.

Don't let the messenger get in the way of their very valid investigative reporting.

Look beyond your political biases to see the extensive facts behind their reporting.

Looks like someone works for Fairfax Times.

Nope.

Just someone who fact checks everything, left and right.

Fairfax times injects too many opinions in their reporting, but their research and what they actually report is solid

You just need to ignore the interjected opinions, just like you need to do for almost all legacy and left wing reporting.

Use the news as a jumping off point, not a landing. Fairfax Times does very solid reporting. Research their investigative stories yourself, and you will quickly see that theyare actually quite good.

[Anonymous]

The consistent approach of FCPS’s proxies has to been to attack the source and authors of any critical, investigative pieces. That’s far more convenient than dealing with the actual allegations, many of which FCPS has been unable to refute.

Michelle Reid has proven herself to be deeply incompetent over a relatively short period, and it shouldn’t surprise anyone that the conduct of this boundary review is plagued by irregularities and an obvious bias against segments of the community that FCPS is also obligated to serve.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It needs to be paused. Too many changes at once.

The incompetence that FairFACTS Matters has uncovered relating to the selection of BRAC members raises bigger issues as to whether those currently running FCPS and on the School Board could possibly be trusted with fair and valid county-wide boundary changes.

FCPS has never had a more incompetent Superintendent and School Board and they need to pause the boundary study, figure out how to improve their processes, and form a new advisory committee (one where obnoxious School Board shills aren't rewarded with seats for their long history of sucking up to the School Board) before doing any further work.

Fairfax matters discovered a typo on a spreadsheet, maybe. Theres a reason no legitimate new outlet is running that “story” except a local blog.

I see what you did there. What makes a news outlet “legitimate”? Is WaPo “legitimate” under Bezos. Is WTOP legitimate in their “hard hitting” reporting? Would a larger news outlet national (WaPo) or even regional (pick one) outlet report on such a local issue? Or would you expect a local, county news outlet to report on it:

https://www.fairfaxtimes.com/articles/area-residents-ask-what-happened-to-mother-no-35/article_b904ab6c-faac-11ef-9d3c-c3bb6b474982.html

Ah, but this particular reporter and this publication has reported on FCPS in the past so this must not be “legitimate.”

That is hilarious. Legitimately hilarious.

Thanks.

I really do not see how anyone can support the current boundary adjustment, given how obviously corrupted and biased the process has been shown to be:

“Scott Jones, a member of the local group FairFACTS Matters, which advocates on education issues, received a copy of the video and other documents in response to a Freedom of Information Act request by a local father. Parents and community members are now expressing outrage at the sequence of events captured in the video as they watch the segment on social media postings in local neighborhood groups.

The disclosure underscores deeper issues into the integrity, legitimacy, and transparency of the FCPS boundary review committee selection process, which requires members to sign non-disclosure agreements. The documents in the public records request included a file marked “Superintendent’s Boundary Review Committee,” which included a comment from Tracey Wynne, FCPS director of community relations, stating, “Each member has signed a limited non-disclosure agreement (NDA) in order to participate on the committee.”

For Jones, the selection process is “invalid” due to how FCPS officials allegedly mishandled it. He said the incident raises questions about whether FCPS officials intentionally selected only people who would rubber stamp the school district’s remapping of the district.

The public records documents released for the first time revealed all of the committee's members. A Dec. 11 Excel spreadsheet titled “Advisory Committee” includes the names of 87 people in a list marked “Confirmation NDA.” Of those listed, 22 are FCPS employees.

That poster doesn’t care about facts. She’s got her own alternative facts to fit her narrative of unwavering support for corrupt FCPS.

Gaslight much? “That poster,” was me, and you failed to realize I quoted a reputable media source:

https://www.fairfaxtimes.com/articles/area-residents-ask-what-happened-to-mother-no-35/article_b904ab6c-faac-11ef-9d3c-c3bb6b474982.html


Question for you PP: You work for FCPS don’t you?

I don't work for FCPS, because I know you will ask and I am not the poster you are responding to.

Fairfax Times is not a reputable source, it is pretty biased in its reporting. And the FairFacts group, or whatever it is call, is pretty biased. I was on the FairFacts FB page for a while and there is a real bias there.

I don't think kids should be moved to rebalnace economic imbalances in the county. I do think that kids need to be moved to decrease enrollment at schools that are over capacity.

I think that IB should be dropped, and students should return to their base schools.

I think that we should be using the existing space that we have instead of expanding capacity at overcrowded schools. I don't think schools udnergoing a renovation should be expanded just because there is a renovation ongoing.

I think that schools that need to be renovated should be renovated, although that is technically a different conversation. It is a legitimate complaint that schools like McLean are falling apart and should be moved up in the renovation cue.

I understand that boundrary changes are disruptive and people don't like them but that doesn't mean there are not valid reasons for doing them. I don't think that FCPS is talking about these shifts for the right reasons, the focus on moving kids to balance FARMs rates in inappropriate. Some kids might be shifted to reduce overcrowding to a school that is a lower FARMs rate because the school closest by has a higher percentage of FARMs kids but a geographic shift possible.

The efforts of the people strongly opposed to redistricting to shut down anyone whose opinion disagrees with theirs is problematic. FCPS didn't need to hrie consultants to do this, they needed maps and people to look at the maps and make adjustments based on relieving overcrowded schools based on geography.

Of course alarm bells go off when a massive number transfer out of AP Herndon to IB South Lakes. Unprecedented anywhere else in this county. 11% of the base school transfers out net TJ. Are they coming primarily from the Reston schools Aldrin and Armstrong? Ex Hughes AAP transfers? Irresponsible on the part of Strauss and Tholen to NOT have put in Herndon MS AAP Center. Not having it could also be a function of Hunter Mill rep snarfing up potential IB Diploma candidates for South Lakes. Senior/diploma candidates IB enrollment should be roken down by base ES

What happened in prior boundary changes to boost academics? Kilmer was a base school only and in poor condiition. FCPS did not want to change base school boundaries to load the site. Longfellow was a mega AAP center- all non Mclean HS or Mclean address schools got moved to Kilmer. Renovated and a desirable tech course plus great band director from Longfellow. Extrapolate that to the HS level. Meanwhile some South Lakes pyramid schools get exhorbitant extra funding- IB, magnet $.
Herndon pyramid gets no bonus cash. Bonus cash for Langley pyramid is the JIP extra staffing due to class size problems. Mclean pyramid Kent Gardens immersion problem was not solved but that program is so large there should be zero extra staff in a budget or staff reallocated.

Edison transfer numbers need to be scrapped or broken down by reason- isolating tech course. IB Edison gets a huge number from IB Lewis. Were SB members historically residing in the Edison pyramid? Some pyramids appear to have had sequential school board members with exhorbitant subjective focus on their base schools plus some special programs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It needs to be paused. Too many changes at once.

The incompetence that FairFACTS Matters has uncovered relating to the selection of BRAC members raises bigger issues as to whether those currently running FCPS and on the School Board could possibly be trusted with fair and valid county-wide boundary changes.

FCPS has never had a more incompetent Superintendent and School Board and they need to pause the boundary study, figure out how to improve their processes, and form a new advisory committee (one where obnoxious School Board shills aren't rewarded with seats for their long history of sucking up to the School Board) before doing any further work.

Fairfax matters discovered a typo on a spreadsheet, maybe. Theres a reason no legitimate new outlet is running that “story” except a local blog.

I see what you did there. What makes a news outlet “legitimate”? Is WaPo “legitimate” under Bezos. Is WTOP legitimate in their “hard hitting” reporting? Would a larger news outlet national (WaPo) or even regional (pick one) outlet report on such a local issue? Or would you expect a local, county news outlet to report on it:

https://www.fairfaxtimes.com/articles/area-residents-ask-what-happened-to-mother-no-35/article_b904ab6c-faac-11ef-9d3c-c3bb6b474982.html

Ah, but this particular reporter and this publication has reported on FCPS in the past so this must not be “legitimate.”

That is hilarious. Legitimately hilarious.

Thanks.

I really do not see how anyone can support the current boundary adjustment, given how obviously corrupted and biased the process has been shown to be:

“Scott Jones, a member of the local group FairFACTS Matters, which advocates on education issues, received a copy of the video and other documents in response to a Freedom of Information Act request by a local father. Parents and community members are now expressing outrage at the sequence of events captured in the video as they watch the segment on social media postings in local neighborhood groups.

The disclosure underscores deeper issues into the integrity, legitimacy, and transparency of the FCPS boundary review committee selection process, which requires members to sign non-disclosure agreements. The documents in the public records request included a file marked “Superintendent’s Boundary Review Committee,” which included a comment from Tracey Wynne, FCPS director of community relations, stating, “Each member has signed a limited non-disclosure agreement (NDA) in order to participate on the committee.”

For Jones, the selection process is “invalid” due to how FCPS officials allegedly mishandled it. He said the incident raises questions about whether FCPS officials intentionally selected only people who would rubber stamp the school district’s remapping of the district.

The public records documents released for the first time revealed all of the committee's members. A Dec. 11 Excel spreadsheet titled “Advisory Committee” includes the names of 87 people in a list marked “Confirmation NDA.” Of those listed, 22 are FCPS employees.

That poster doesn’t care about facts. She’s got her own alternative facts to fit her narrative of unwavering support for corrupt FCPS.

Gaslight much? “That poster,” was me, and you failed to realize I quoted a reputable media source:

https://www.fairfaxtimes.com/articles/area-residents-ask-what-happened-to-mother-no-35/article_b904ab6c-faac-11ef-9d3c-c3bb6b474982.html


Question for you PP: You work for FCPS don’t you?

I don't work for FCPS, because I know you will ask and I am not the poster you are responding to.

Fairfax Times is not a reputable source, it is pretty biased in its reporting. And the FairFacts group, or whatever it is call, is pretty biased. I was on the FairFacts FB page for a while and there is a real bias there.

I don't think kids should be moved to rebalnace economic imbalances in the county. I do think that kids need to be moved to decrease enrollment at schools that are over capacity.

I think that IB should be dropped, and students should return to their base schools.

I think that we should be using the existing space that we have instead of expanding capacity at overcrowded schools. I don't think schools udnergoing a renovation should be expanded just because there is a renovation ongoing.

I think that schools that need to be renovated should be renovated, although that is technically a different conversation. It is a legitimate complaint that schools like McLean are falling apart and should be moved up in the renovation cue.

I understand that boundrary changes are disruptive and people don't like them but that doesn't mean there are not valid reasons for doing them. I don't think that FCPS is talking about these shifts for the right reasons, the focus on moving kids to balance FARMs rates in inappropriate. Some kids might be shifted to reduce overcrowding to a school that is a lower FARMs rate because the school closest by has a higher percentage of FARMs kids but a geographic shift possible.

The efforts of the people strongly opposed to redistricting to shut down anyone whose opinion disagrees with theirs is problematic. FCPS didn't need to hrie consultants to do this, they needed maps and people to look at the maps and make adjustments based on relieving overcrowded schools based on geography.

Of course alarm bells go off when a massive number transfer out of AP Herndon to IB South Lakes. Unprecedented anywhere else in this county. 11% of the base school transfers out net TJ. Are they coming primarily from the Reston schools Aldrin and Armstrong? Ex Hughes AAP transfers? Irresponsible on the part of Strauss and Tholen to NOT have put in Herndon MS AAP Center. Not having it could also be a function of Hunter Mill rep snarfing up potential IB Diploma candidates for South Lakes. Senior/diploma candidates IB enrollment should be roken down by base ES

What happened in prior boundary changes to boost academics? Kilmer was a base school only and in poor condiition. FCPS did not want to change base school boundaries to load the site. Longfellow was a mega AAP center- all non Mclean HS or Mclean address schools got moved to Kilmer. Renovated and a desirable tech course plus great band director from Longfellow. Extrapolate that to the HS level. Meanwhile some South Lakes pyramid schools get exhorbitant extra funding- IB, magnet $.
Herndon pyramid gets no bonus cash. Bonus cash for Langley pyramid is the JIP extra staffing due to class size problems. Mclean pyramid Kent Gardens immersion problem was not solved but that program is so large there should be zero extra staff in a budget or staff reallocated.

Edison transfer numbers need to be scrapped or broken down by reason- isolating tech course. IB Edison gets a huge number from IB Lewis. Were SB members historically residing in the Edison pyramid? Some pyramids appear to have had sequential school board members with exhorbitant subjective focus on their base schools plus some special programs.

Word salad time.