Physicians Assistant yelling “HELP ME” while stealing a CitiBike ?

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Anonymous wrote:It’s amazing how gullible people are when believing something obviously untrue strokes your ego and makes you feel morally in the right. It’s just so obvious he hadn’t paid at the start of the video. And it doesn’t make you a good anti racist to make a fool of yourself insisting otherwise.

You don't know what you're talking about. He had the evidence of pre-payment on his phone, was showing it to the lady who clearly hadn't paid.

(1) I don't see that in the video,

but more importantly

(2) It is irrelevant. Paying Citi Bike $3.50 for a future ride does not entitle you to shove people off bikes and demand they give them to you. That's not a thing.

It's like buying a Starbucks gift card and then going into Starbucks and shoving everyone else out of the way or taking their coffee because HELLO you PREPAID for your coffee, all you aholes who have been standing in line waiting to pay have to give me your coffee since I already gave this giant company a teeny tiny sum of money, even though I haven't technically even ordered my coffee.

Like, listen to yourself.

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Anonymous wrote:What did she say after “HELP ME HELP ME” that related to the bike transaction?

Nothing. Not one word of defense or explanation or reason why it’s her bike.

I like how she’s just casually draping her hand on his arm as she’s loudly saying “Halp. Please halp me. Get off me.” She is not scared, she is not in danger. The hysterics start when the colleague shows up, and immediately stop as soon as he’s like, maybe get a different bike?

Yeah, like once she actually pays for one? Those of you suggesting she had a membership are really reaching!

He wouldn’t let her pay for it. That’s why his hand is there. He hadn’t paid for it either! Which is why his hand is there!!

He had paid for it, there was a code on his phone he was showing. That pre-paid code is what unlocks the bike. She hadn't paid.

Np. Ok so, to clarify, he may have paid for a ride (not a specific bike) and he decided he wanted the bike this lady was in the process of renting?

I’ve never used these bikes before but there appears to be a lot of confusion around how they are used.

There is no confusion at all. People are just making stuff up because they think if they can distract people with enough random, and in some cases made up, information, they'll stop paying attention to what their eyes can see on the video, which is that a group of young men physically pushed a pregnant woman off a bike, laughed at her and mocked her, called her unborn child a nasty slur, and then posted the video of the incident online claiming it's evidence of "weaponizing white tears."

It is insane. This whole thing is insane.

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I dated a Bellevue hospital nurse briefly when I lived in NYC. My apt was on 24 and third near hospital

Bellevue is public it is where gun shot victims, homeless people, crazy people, criminals are dropped off. Crazy busy end and ambulance drop off.

I recall one Valentine day she was going to come over at 7pm. Instead she showed up at midnight. A drug dealer came in with four bullets in him one by heart. She had her hand massaging heart and finger plugging holes for several hours and to add to it he was HIV positive. Some other days frozen homeless people, violent crack heads, it’s insane there.

So this lady coming off a shift like that give me a break of course she is on edge and this video is a terrible thing to post. What is the purpose other than ruin this women’s life.

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Anonymous wrote:What did she say after “HELP ME HELP ME” that related to the bike transaction?

Nothing. Not one word of defense or explanation or reason why it’s her bike.

I like how she’s just casually draping her hand on his arm as she’s loudly saying “Halp. Please halp me. Get off me.” She is not scared, she is not in danger. The hysterics start when the colleague shows up, and immediately stop as soon as he’s like, maybe get a different bike?

Yeah, like once she actually pays for one? Those of you suggesting she had a membership are really reaching!

He wouldn’t let her pay for it. That’s why his hand is there. He hadn’t paid for it either! Which is why his hand is there!!

He had paid for it, there was a code on his phone he was showing. That pre-paid code is what unlocks the bike. She hadn't paid.

Np. Ok so, to clarify, he may have paid for a ride (not a specific bike) and he decided he wanted the bike this lady was in the process of renting?

I’ve never used these bikes before but there appears to be a lot of confusion around how they are used.

No he was in the process of renting it and she sat on it to prevent him from completing it. She didn't start at all, just sat on it.

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Anonymous wrote:What did she say after “HELP ME HELP ME” that related to the bike transaction?

Nothing. Not one word of defense or explanation or reason why it’s her bike.

I like how she’s just casually draping her hand on his arm as she’s loudly saying “Halp. Please halp me. Get off me.” She is not scared, she is not in danger. The hysterics start when the colleague shows up, and immediately stop as soon as he’s like, maybe get a different bike?

Yeah, like once she actually pays for one? Those of you suggesting she had a membership are really reaching!

He wouldn’t let her pay for it. That’s why his hand is there. He hadn’t paid for it either! Which is why his hand is there!!

He had paid for it, there was a code on his phone he was showing. That pre-paid code is what unlocks the bike. She hadn't paid.

Np. Ok so, to clarify, he may have paid for a ride (not a specific bike) and he decided he wanted the bike this lady was in the process of renting?

I’ve never used these bikes before but there appears to be a lot of confusion around how they are used.

No he was in the process of renting it and she sat on it to prevent him from completing it. She didn't start at all, just sat on it.

How do you know?

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Anonymous wrote:What did she say after “HELP ME HELP ME” that related to the bike transaction?

Nothing. Not one word of defense or explanation or reason why it’s her bike.

I like how she’s just casually draping her hand on his arm as she’s loudly saying “Halp. Please halp me. Get off me.” She is not scared, she is not in danger. The hysterics start when the colleague shows up, and immediately stop as soon as he’s like, maybe get a different bike?

Yeah, like once she actually pays for one? Those of you suggesting she had a membership are really reaching!

He wouldn’t let her pay for it. That’s why his hand is there. He hadn’t paid for it either! Which is why his hand is there!!

He had paid for it, there was a code on his phone he was showing. That pre-paid code is what unlocks the bike. She hadn't paid.

Np. Ok so, to clarify, he may have paid for a ride (not a specific bike) and he decided he wanted the bike this lady was in the process of renting?

I’ve never used these bikes before but there appears to be a lot of confusion around how they are used.

No he was in the process of renting it and she sat on it to prevent him from completing it. She didn't start at all, just sat on it.

So, in your mind a pregnant woman who just got off a long shift at work, decide to go sit on a bike and play stupid games with a bunch of teen boys. That's what you think happened here? Not the more likely explanation that these boys found an easy target and decided to mess with her?

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Anonymous wrote:What did she say after “HELP ME HELP ME” that related to the bike transaction?

Nothing. Not one word of defense or explanation or reason why it’s her bike.

I like how she’s just casually draping her hand on his arm as she’s loudly saying “Halp. Please halp me. Get off me.” She is not scared, she is not in danger. The hysterics start when the colleague shows up, and immediately stop as soon as he’s like, maybe get a different bike?

Yeah, like once she actually pays for one? Those of you suggesting she had a membership are really reaching!

He wouldn’t let her pay for it. That’s why his hand is there. He hadn’t paid for it either! Which is why his hand is there!!

He had paid for it, there was a code on his phone he was showing. That pre-paid code is what unlocks the bike. She hadn't paid.

Np. Ok so, to clarify, he may have paid for a ride (not a specific bike) and he decided he wanted the bike this lady was in the process of renting?

I’ve never used these bikes before but there appears to be a lot of confusion around how they are used.

No he was in the process of renting it and she sat on it to prevent him from completing it. She didn't start at all, just sat on it.

So, in your mind a pregnant woman who just got off a long shift at work, decide to go sit on a bike and play stupid games with a bunch of teen boys. That's what you think happened here? Not the more likely explanation that these boys found an easy target and decided to mess with her?

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Anonymous wrote:I live in NYC. The incident was on Channel 4 (NBC) 11 pm local news a couple of nights ago. Reporter went to her home and nobody answered. Reporter spoke to a neighbor who is Black and lives in the same coop or condo complex. (I'm not sure which it is.) Neighbor was surprised that the person in the video lives in the same building.

So, maybe it isn't national news, but if it was on local news, plenty of people know about it.

And seriously no journo in the whole city noticed what really happened in this video? Ugh.

Yeah, I’m legit righteously indignant rn and I want to see her exonerated!

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Anonymous wrote:JFC people. You don't rent the bike by sitting on it. You rent it through the app. It wasn't her bike, he rented it first fair and square. Was he gallant, sweeping his hat off and saying "why of course, milady, the bike is yours, may I lay my riding cape down on this puddle that you might not soil the tires as you leave?" No. But he was in the right and she was throwing a hissy fit. It was on her to deal with her frustration, recognize that he legitimately rented the bike first, and move on like a grown-ass adult.

He rents it 20 seconds into the video, after she'd already sat on the bike. You might not rent a bike by sitting on it, but it's weird to rent a bike that someone else is sitting on. She had a right to be upset.

Renting a bike someone has sat down on and is preparing to rent is obviously antagonistic. She should have, though, recognized these guys were messing with her because they are immature teens.

The video is 90 second long, and at the end she gets of the bike. So she does, ultimately realize that she is dealign with immature teens and moves on with her life.

What if the thousands of people online who have since called this woman a white supremacist and a liar, claimed she's faking her pregnancy, accused her of bias in her medical practice, and dozens of other absolute insane and unsupported accusations ALSO recognized that these guys are immature teens who were messing with a tired pregnant woman?

Like it took her about a minute to figure out what was going on and walk away from the situation. The internet is still trying to get her fired several days later. Who needs to wise up here, exactly?

The internet is the a$$hole here, definitely. But she is not the wronged party, nor is she a victim.

She may or may not be the victim in the actual event - surely she shouldn’t have touched his phone. But now she’s absolutely a victim of the internet mob.

Yup. I think she shouldn't be, and it sucks, and I hope she isn't fired, but that's a risk you take when you have a hissy in front of a bunch of phones.

I think it’s as or more likely that our director of cinematography decided to film to a push hard for a reaction so I think your order of operations are likely wrong.

Ok.

Please let me know if you have any evidence of that.

In fact, I do. The recording helpfully objectively demonstrates that he had not rented the bike, by the video visual of him with his palm over the scannable code, and by the helpful audio where you hear the unlocking, indicating the rental. Since the recording precedes the actual act of bike rental, it makes rational sense that the group wanted to bully her off of it and the now universal language of recording her shows they wanted to embarrass her into complying. Hope that is helpful.

That, to me, isn't evidence. That's interpreting/speculating on what happened.

I agree that, at the beginning of the video, he hadn't rented the bike. Neither had she. It was an open bike -- it was up for grabs. Sitting on the bike didn't make it her bike. Recording before the bike is rented could easily also have been because they saw that she incorrectly thought that it was her bike because she sat on it and was escalating the situation. She wasn't being "bullied" off the bike.

I get that you see it differently. It's definitely open to interpretation.

So if you have something in your grocery cart and someone takes it and walks away with it and pays for it first, you are totally ok with that? What if they have friends there standing around you and filming your reaction...all good? And if you do react in a frustrated way, you should be nationally criticized on the internet and suspended from your job?

She understands that as a white woman, she is always going to be viewed as the victim in any situation. She knows that white comfort is always prioritized over everything else. She is aware that if she makes a loud enough scene, some white man or a cop will come flying in to “rescue” her.

Yes that’s why those young men are now in jail after harassing her. Because white women are always the victim. And it’s why no one is saying the young man is the victim of an attempted theft.

You and everyone defending her see her as a victim, right? You have come up with 1000 possible scenarios to justify her behavior (calling for help and fake crying.)

Almost no one on this thread is justifying her behavior. For instance, I have not seen a single post saying she was justified in taking the guy's phone. I've seen people explaining that she is taking it because he is using it to rent the bike she is sitting on (as part of the explanation of how we know that the bike is being rented 20 seconds into the video, and not before the video begins). But not justifying her choice to grab the phone.

Many people who disagree with the narrative that she stole the bike or is trying to get these black men in trouble have criticized her demeanor in the video or argued she should have handled it differently. People are not spinning "1000 possible scenarios" -- they are looking at the facts as they are presented in the video we have and noting that the man has not rented the bike at the beginning of the video, that he physically prevents her from renting the bike, that he rents it while she is sitting on it, that he uses his body position and size to force her off the bike, and that he has the support of several friends in this while she is alone. These are not "scenarios" or suppositions -- they are facts. They are what happen.

I don't see her as a victim in the video -- I tend to view the video as two people acting childishly in a dispute over a bike, and I think the man is in a more powerful position (because of his size and the fact that he has backup) than she is. I recognize that their race could be one source of conflict, but don't think it really applies in this situation because there are several other factors at play. I don't think she is viewing her race or her gender as a trump card she can play. I think they are actually limiting factors for her in this situation.

I'm not justifying anything she does, I'm just describing it. She doesn't steal the bike. She doesn't yell at this man who takes the bike or any of his friends. She does not fake cry. She does not try to get anyone to hurt or attack this man or his friends. She walks away at the end.

They might not have said that she should've been allowed to take his phone, but there has been a lot of minimizing her taking it. Several posts saying she tried to grab it. She didn't try to grab it. She successfully snatched it out of his hand then returned it when called out on it.

I think what happened, having seen similar situations and fully acknowledging it's speculation, is that he was with friends and they were dawdling while they got the rentals started. I think she was tired and came to the bike stand either not noticing they were in the process of renting a group of bikes OR not caring that they were in the process of it and she hopped on. He said no, it was his, s she wouldn't get off, and they started filming. Neither had officially rented it, but I can see how that could've happened and how she could be seated yet he was there first. I'm not sure we'll ever know what happened unless there are security cameras, but even then people will argue over it.

I agree that's likely what happened, and I don't understand how anyone can then conclude that she's a white supremacist and a thief who should be fired, which is what people are proposing.

Literally I looked up this incident on Twitter yesterday and the first 20 or so posts (I didn't read past that) were like "she's a white supremacist", "she's a b---h" "she's a liar" "she is trying to get these men killed" "she's racist" "she probably does this to her patients" "she should be fired" "she should be arrested".

I don't see how you get from what actually happened in that video to there.

That was my guess of how this probably happened as well. There has to have been a way for her to get on the bike and this seems like the most likely explanation of how they both thought they were entitled to it.

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Anonymous wrote:this women was risking her life saving plenty of black people lives during Covid working in a hospital and this guy over a bike reveal mix up decides to ruin her life and destroy her career.

If me I would have handed it over and said thank you for your service. Guess he was in a rush to do waiting absolutely Nothing.

She ruined her own career.

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Anonymous wrote:I dated a Bellevue hospital nurse briefly when I lived in NYC. My apt was on 24 and third near hospital

Bellevue is public it is where gun shot victims, homeless people, crazy people, criminals are dropped off. Crazy busy end and ambulance drop off.

I recall one Valentine day she was going to come over at 7pm. Instead she showed up at midnight. A drug dealer came in with four bullets in him one by heart. She had her hand massaging heart and finger plugging holes for several hours and to add to it he was HIV positive. Some other days frozen homeless people, violent crack heads, it’s insane there.

So this lady coming off a shift like that give me a break of course she is on edge and this video is a terrible thing to post. What is the purpose other than ruin this women’s life.

When I saw Bellevue that's immediately what I thought this would be about. People working there are traumatized. It's a very rough place to work. I have tons of respect for the medical professionals that willingly work in places like Bellevue. This PA could be sitting in a cushy medspa doing lip injections but go on and drag her, society. Given all she's likely seen, I'm actually surprised she held it together as well as she did.

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Anonymous wrote:this women was risking her life saving plenty of black people lives during Covid working in a hospital and this guy over a bike reveal mix up decides to ruin her life and destroy her career.

If me I would have handed it over and said thank you for your service. Guess he was in a rush to do waiting absolutely Nothing.

She ruined her own career.

You really think her behavior was worthy of losing her job?

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Anonymous wrote:What did she say after “HELP ME HELP ME” that related to the bike transaction?

Nothing. Not one word of defense or explanation or reason why it’s her bike.

I like how she’s just casually draping her hand on his arm as she’s loudly saying “Halp. Please halp me. Get off me.” She is not scared, she is not in danger. The hysterics start when the colleague shows up, and immediately stop as soon as he’s like, maybe get a different bike?

Yeah, like once she actually pays for one? Those of you suggesting she had a membership are really reaching!

He wouldn’t let her pay for it. That’s why his hand is there. He hadn’t paid for it either! Which is why his hand is there!!

He had paid for it, there was a code on his phone he was showing. That pre-paid code is what unlocks the bike. She hadn't paid.

There is no point on that video where he shows her his phone to prove he rented it. Either post a screen grab, post the time in the video it happens, or shut up with this nonsense. It’s getting old.

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Anonymous wrote:I dated a Bellevue hospital nurse briefly when I lived in NYC. My apt was on 24 and third near hospital

Bellevue is public it is where gun shot victims, homeless people, crazy people, criminals are dropped off. Crazy busy end and ambulance drop off.

I recall one Valentine day she was going to come over at 7pm. Instead she showed up at midnight. A drug dealer came in with four bullets in him one by heart. She had her hand massaging heart and finger plugging holes for several hours and to add to it he was HIV positive. Some other days frozen homeless people, violent crack heads, it’s insane there.

So this lady coming off a shift like that give me a break of course she is on edge and this video is a terrible thing to post. What is the purpose other than ruin this women’s life.

When I saw Bellevue that's immediately what I thought this would be about. People working there are traumatized. It's a very rough place to work. I have tons of respect for the medical professionals that willingly work in places like Bellevue. This PA could be sitting in a cushy medspa doing lip injections but go on and drag her, society. Given all she's likely seen, I'm actually surprised she held it together as well as she did.

The psycho pitchfork “anti racist” mob doesn’t realize they’re shooting themselves in the foot. Keep this crap up and no one is going to want to work in those places anymore. Good job guys!

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People criticizing her are especially incensed by her flat affect (I keep seeing people mad about her “dead eyes”) and I wonder how many of these people have considered that this woman has very likely been yelled and cursed at for the last 8 hours.

There is an essay out there (that I refuse to link to) that repeats the woman’s full name a bunch of times on purpose in order to ensure it’s a top result if the name is googled. And the author is proudly declaring on Twitter that she took care to not give this woman a single shred of the benefit of the doubt. She equates her to Carolyn Bryant (the woman who accused Emmett Till). This writer is so proud of herself for trying to destroy the life and reputation of a pregnant physicians assistant who was shoved off a bike she was renting, taunted and laughed at.

It must feel SOOOO good to sit behind a keyboard ruining the lives of people who actually work in hospitals helping others all day.