4th grade advice required

[Anonymous]

My DC is in 4th grade GenEd (Level III) but goes to the Level IV Math class and is doing very well. His GenEd teacher is not going to go back to the classroom when/if they return to the school so he will be with a monitor.--hugely unfair. Could I request he be placed in Level IV since that teacher is definitely going back? Or would that be frowned upon since we are halfway through the year and this seems to be a favorable boost? For what it's worth, at his school, the Level IV class is tiny (17 kids) and his GenEd classroom has 29 kids and his LA skills are excellent. He is seeking AAP admittance this year.

[Anonymous]

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[Anonymous]

You can email your principal and ask. It's not a crazy request, trying to avoid having a monitor instead of an in-person teacher.

[Anonymous]

I think it’s worth asking.

[Anonymous]

I'm appalled that your principal didn't principal-place the LIII kids into AAP to somewhat balance the classes. It's absurd to have a tiny AAP class, and then huge gen ed classes that also contain all of the LIII + advanced math kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm appalled that your principal didn't principal-place the LIII kids into AAP to somewhat balance the classes. It's absurd to have a tiny AAP class, and then huge gen ed classes that also contain all of the LIII + advanced math kids.

But maybe it would start an avalanche of requests and complaints that the principal foresaw and decided against.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm appalled that your principal didn't principal-place the LIII kids into AAP to somewhat balance the classes. It's absurd to have a tiny AAP class, and then huge gen ed classes that also contain all of the LIII + advanced math kids.

OP here-there are too many Level III kids to be principal placed in the Level IV class but he could have PP the Levek III kids who take Adv. Math. So you don’t think it would be a crazy request mid year? I just don’t know if the Principal will want to avoid the flurry of requests for this if she approves my DC placement. FWIW-there are only 4 kids who take Advanced Math and I* think* only 2 of them will be returning to school if it open.

Very uncertain of what to do!!

[Anonymous]

I don't think that you have anything to lose. Worst they can do is say no.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't think that you have anything to lose. Worst they can do is say no.

OP here. I guess my hesitation is that I want my DC Principal Placed next year if he doesn't get into AAP so I am wondering if I should just let the Principal do her thing this year since it's stressful enough or if this is the year to show that my DC can and will succeed in Level IV. He certainly stands a better chance at success than going to school and sitting with a monitor.

[Anonymous]

Our AART said that it is rare for kids to be in Level III and Advanced Math and not been accepted into AAP but deferred. If your school allows for Principal Placement, you can ask the Principal but your child has not been doing the same LA, Social Studies, or Science as the AAP kids. There might also be a size issue.

And honestly, a monitor or a teacher in the classroom doesn't really matter. Teachers in the classroom are going to be staying at their desk to Teach so the kids at home see what is happening. The Teachers are not going to be walking around the classroom and helping kids in person. There have been plenty of people discussing this, the Teachers who worked in the pilot programs and parents whose kids were in those programs. The Monitors are only there to help troubleshoot issues and make sure the kids stay at their desks and wear their masks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Our AART said that it is rare for kids to be in Level III and Advanced Math and not been accepted into AAP but deferred. If your school allows for Principal Placement, you can ask the Principal but your child has not been doing the same LA, Social Studies, or Science as the AAP kids. There might also be a size issue.

And honestly, a monitor or a teacher in the classroom doesn't really matter. Teachers in the classroom are going to be staying at their desk to Teach so the kids at home see what is happening. The Teachers are not going to be walking around the classroom and helping kids in person. There have been plenty of people discussing this, the Teachers who worked in the pilot programs and parents whose kids were in those programs. The Monitors are only there to help troubleshoot issues and make sure the kids stay at their desks and wear their masks.

Dunno. Everyone says that SS, Science or LA is the SAME as the AAP kids and that it is only math that is different. Well, he's doing the math and excelling. He has a DRA of 40 and has always scored above 95 percentile in iready.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our AART said that it is rare for kids to be in Level III and Advanced Math and not been accepted into AAP but deferred. If your school allows for Principal Placement, you can ask the Principal but your child has not been doing the same LA, Social Studies, or Science as the AAP kids. There might also be a size issue.

And honestly, a monitor or a teacher in the classroom doesn't really matter. Teachers in the classroom are going to be staying at their desk to Teach so the kids at home see what is happening. The Teachers are not going to be walking around the classroom and helping kids in person. There have been plenty of people discussing this, the Teachers who worked in the pilot programs and parents whose kids were in those programs. The Monitors are only there to help troubleshoot issues and make sure the kids stay at their desks and wear their masks.

Dunno. Everyone says that SS, Science or LA is the SAME as the AAP kids and that it is only math that is different. Well, he's doing the math and excelling. He has a DRA of 40 and has always scored above 95 percentile in iready.

Also, I can tell from the task cards that the assignments are exactly the same for AAP and GenEd so I think this is wrong.

[Anonymous]

With all the kids principal placed this year, I'm assuming all those kids either get admitted to AAP next year or will be principal placed again. Otherwise, would think principal would hear so many complaints from parents whose kid did fine for a full year this year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our AART said that it is rare for kids to be in Level III and Advanced Math and not been accepted into AAP but deferred. If your school allows for Principal Placement, you can ask the Principal but your child has not been doing the same LA, Social Studies, or Science as the AAP kids. There might also be a size issue.

And honestly, a monitor or a teacher in the classroom doesn't really matter. Teachers in the classroom are going to be staying at their desk to Teach so the kids at home see what is happening. The Teachers are not going to be walking around the classroom and helping kids in person. There have been plenty of people discussing this, the Teachers who worked in the pilot programs and parents whose kids were in those programs. The Monitors are only there to help troubleshoot issues and make sure the kids stay at their desks and wear their masks.

Dunno. Everyone says that SS, Science or LA is the SAME as the AAP kids and that it is only math that is different. Well, he's doing the math and excelling. He has a DRA of 40 and has always scored above 95 percentile in iready.

NP. At our center school, LA and S/SS are quite taught quite differently between AAP and general education classes. But they are not "ahead" or "behind" so moving from one class to the other shouldn't be disruptive that way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't think that you have anything to lose. Worst they can do is say no.

OP here. I guess my hesitation is that I want my DC Principal Placed next year if he doesn't get into AAP so I am wondering if I should just let the Principal do her thing this year since it's stressful enough or if this is the year to show that my DC can and will succeed in Level IV. He certainly stands a better chance at success than going to school and sitting with a monitor.

For what it’s worth I don’t like to bother principals either - but I feel like in this case if your kid is already doing well in the math class and knows the kids / teacher from the push in - that it’s not really annoying to at least ask as long as you’re nice about it. I don’t know if it’s worth asking the teacher first if the teacher would support that. Just be nice and not annoying - you sound more normal than others posters in this post here - so I think that would go OK for you.