Conflicting information about kids and covid

[Anonymous]

Every time I pull up a news site, I am seeing articles about rapidly rising numbers of children being hospitalized and increasing numbers of MISC-C, right next to articles about how the CDC is saying it is safe for schools to open. I scroll down and then see that schools in Europe are closing because the new variants are raging out of control. How do we know what’s safe for the kids?

I’m talking about the kids here. Not spread to, from, or among teachers. Spread from kid to kid. It happens. Kids are getting sick, some are dying. Don’t tell me they’re not. I have an aunt who works in a peds ICU at Vanderbilt. She keeps telling me it’s bad. I know I could keep my own kids home, but they desperately want to be there when it opens. How do we know what the truth is?

[Anonymous]

They don't wear masks in Tennessee. It's a point of pride.

[Anonymous]

There’s no conflict.

Kids should wear mask and distance.

Schools should close unless they can implement strict precautions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
There’s no conflict.

Kids should wear mask and distance.

Schools should close unless they can implement strict precautions.

What about when schools can implement precautions? Can they open then?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
There’s no conflict.

Kids should wear mask and distance.

Schools should close unless they can implement strict precautions.

What about when schools can implement precautions? Can they open then?

It depends how serious they are on enforcement. For lunch, no talking and plastic dividers. Masks worn at all times apart from lunch for everyone. No band, no chorus unless distanced outside. That kind of thing.

[Anonymous]

Cohorting. Don’t forget that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Cohorting. Don’t forget that.

Forget that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
There’s no conflict.

Kids should wear mask and distance.

Schools should close unless they can implement strict precautions.

What about when schools can implement precautions? Can they open then?

It depends how serious they are on enforcement. For lunch, no talking and plastic dividers. Masks worn at all times apart from lunch for everyone. No band, no chorus unless distanced outside. That kind of thing.

My kid is orchestra, which can be done inside without the issues. But, I also have a band kid at a school with a conservatory. They are using the same same mitigation measures as FCPS, with dividers, bell covers, distancing, masks, face shields for most wind instruments, masks while singing etc. No cases epilinked to in person Con classes. I agree I would be nervous about sending my band kid in because it feels risky. But, there has been a lot of work on having music ensembles safely. There is data backing up the measures FCPS is using.

I know for my kids in person strings is the most important class. A musician without an ensemble is like an athlete without a team. You can practice skills. But the community playing together is the part the love. I hope it works. I’m glad my kid is string through.

[Anonymous]

And the sports and the kids play dates and the teens finding it hard to social distance. It’s very hard for them to do this.

[Anonymous]

Yeah, I noticed that too. This article was practically hidden in the NYT:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/18/health/cor...hildren-schools.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yeah, I noticed that too. This article was practically hidden in the NYT:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/18/health/cor...hildren-schools.html

It was hidden because it’s old data. It was everywhere when it came out. Addressed here;
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/202...ools-already/617849/

[Anonymous]

You won't be able to eliminate all risk. If you are worried don't send them. Many schools have opened in the US and have not seen outbreaks. They may have some cases, but it didn't spread to the whole class.

[Anonymous]

Weird. I have a friend at Vanderbilt too and the ped floor is filled with ADULT Covid victims. Not kids.

And the ped staff are treating them because there is no one else. I wouldn’t assume there are many ped COVID patients. Only about 150 kids have died in the 400,000 deaths. That’s not the only marker to know, but it is rarely fatal in kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You won't be able to eliminate all risk. If you are worried don't send them. Many schools have opened in the US and have not seen outbreaks. They may have some cases, but it didn't spread to the whole class.

Can someone post the link to the data from systems that have opened successfully? Every one I see either hides their data, like Florida, or has had to repeatedly close schools because cases increase within them.

Birx now admits that the CDC data during the Trump administration was incorrect, and it appears that there was something unusually with Cuomo’s nursing home data in NY. (I picked both political sides to keep this from turning into that.)

I don’t think we will know the truth until we collect data from a large system and get honest data. So far, too many are more vested in being right than in getting it right.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Weird. I have a friend at Vanderbilt too and the ped floor is filled with ADULT Covid victims. Not kids.

And the ped staff are treating them because there is no one else. I wouldn’t assume there are many ped COVID patients. Only about 150 kids have died in the 400,000 deaths. That’s not the only marker to know, but it is rarely fatal in kids.

Do you mean little kids or all kids including teenagers? I honestly don’t know.