Official Ebola update thread

[Anonymous]

Say you were the fiancé or wife or girlfriend, would you have welcomed your partner back from West Africa with a kiss, hug, sexual encounter the first week he was home? Would your answer change if you had children or were pregnant?

Prompted by a discussion I had with my dh. He says he would have waited 21 days and done a self-imposed isolation. I'm not sure how practical that would be.

Just wondering what others thoughts are.

[Anonymous]

While I applaud anyone willing to go over and help out, after the latest diagnosis in NYC, I think all returning personnel from the affected countries should be quarantined for 21 days - paid leave, no public transit whatsoever, avoid sex etc. Clearly any signs of fatigue etc and said person should NOT go out in public even if they have not fever or other symptoms. How this highly trained medical doctor thought he wasn't a serious risk just because he didn't see how his gear could have been breached is pure stupidity and arrogance. Seriously, WTF on his part?! Plenty of MSF staff have come down with Ebola. While they have the most stringent protocols, they are clearly still not foolproof.

Personally I think in an effort by global leaders to downplay this to avoid panic, food shortages and financial market crashes, it means we are playing with fire. This has the potential to change/take away life for millions over the next few years unless they get an effective vaccine and the virus doesn't mutate to negate said vaccine.

Mother Nature can be very sneaky and we need to be pouring more resources into this. IMO, this has far more potential to kill more humans than any wars elsewhere or terrorist acts (short of a nuclear explosion in metro area or weaponized bioterror, including ebola).

[Anonymous]

Dr Spencer is 33 and saw ebola in Africa. He [unless living under a rock] knew of healthcare workers who got ebola in Africa. Perhaps because he is youngish and successful there was a feeling of invulnerability.http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/24/health/new-york-ebola-timeline/

Flew into JFK, rode 3 subway lines, went to a bowling alley. Nurse Vinson was on Frontier Air. Dr Nancy Snyderman was cavorting around Manhatten when she was supposed to be on a 21 day quarantine in NJ.

Since medical professionals have exhibited reckless behavior it is time to require 21 day quarantine for all who have been in the hotzone. One US airport not five should funnel the passengers and there should be designated supervised quarantine locations.

[Anonymous]

link http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/24/health/new-york-ebola-timeline/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Dr Spencer is 33 and saw ebola in Africa. He [unless living under a rock] knew of healthcare workers who got ebola in Africa. Perhaps because he is youngish and successful there was a feeling of invulnerability.http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/24/health/new-york-ebola-timeline/

Flew into JFK, rode 3 subway lines, went to a bowling alley. Nurse Vinson was on Frontier Air. Dr Nancy Snyderman was cavorting around Manhatten when she was supposed to be on a 21 day quarantine in NJ.

Since medical professionals have exhibited reckless behavior it is time to require 21 day quarantine for all who have been in the hotzone. One US airport not five should funnel the passengers and there should be designated supervised quarantine locations.

I don't know why untrue statements are being made around here. Dr. Nancy Snyderman was seen in a car in her hometown in NJ, where a companion got out of the car to pick up food. She was never seen "cavorting around Manhattan". Why do you have to make things up?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Please people, get a grip. Not a single person in this country has contracted Ebola from casual contact. Not a one. The only people who have contracted it were nurses working with an end stage patient's bodily fluids and wearing inappropriate protection. No one living with Duncan, or who came in contact with Duncan, contracted the disease. Not a single health care worker who has treated an Ebola patient outside of this rinky dink hospital in Texas has contracted the disease.

Please tell me how somehow who works at the world bank is going to be exposed to an Ebola patient's bodily fluids. I don;t think these folks are putting in IVs and cleaning up vomit.

So many of you are just being ridiculous.

You are stunningly stupid. Is it denial?

What is stunningly stupid here? That is the most sensible post on this thread. I'm blown away that the normally intelligent people here on DCUM are totally losing their minds and so ready to believe things that aren't true.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Please people, get a grip. Not a single person in this country has contracted Ebola from casual contact. Not a one. The only people who have contracted it were nurses working with an end stage patient's bodily fluids and wearing inappropriate protection. No one living with Duncan, or who came in contact with Duncan, contracted the disease. Not a single health care worker who has treated an Ebola patient outside of this rinky dink hospital in Texas has contracted the disease.

Please tell me how somehow who works at the world bank is going to be exposed to an Ebola patient's bodily fluids. I don;t think these folks are putting in IVs and cleaning up vomit.

So many of you are just being ridiculous.

You are stunningly stupid. Is it denial?

Wha? These are the facts.

A world bank employee on a work trip to monrovia could absolutely come into contact with ebola patients just by virtue of being in a city with an epidemic.

How does being in a city with ebola patients expose him to their bodily fluids?

The reason it spread so badly in Africa is because people were caring for dying family members themselves, they were exposing themselves to highly infectious bodily fluids during traditional funeral ceremonies and their hospitals did not have enough people to clean the bodily fluids produced by patients.

We've had Ebola patients walking around our cities. Duncan and the two nurses. They infected no one.

[Anonymous]

Did the doctor bleed or vomit on the train? At the bowling alley?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:While I applaud anyone willing to go over and help out, after the latest diagnosis in NYC, I think all returning personnel from the affected countries should be quarantined for 21 days - paid leave, no public transit whatsoever, avoid sex etc. Clearly any signs of fatigue etc and said person should NOT go out in public even if they have not fever or other symptoms. How this highly trained medical doctor thought he wasn't a serious risk just because he didn't see how his gear could have been breached is pure stupidity and arrogance. Seriously, WTF on his part?! Plenty of MSF staff have come down with Ebola. While they have the most stringent protocols, they are clearly still not foolproof.

Personally I think in an effort by global leaders to downplay this to avoid panic, food shortages and financial market crashes, it means we are playing with fire. This has the potential to change/take away life for millions over the next few years unless they get an effective vaccine and the virus doesn't mutate to negate said vaccine.

Mother Nature can be very sneaky and we need to be pouring more resources into this. IMO, this has far more potential to kill more humans than any wars elsewhere or terrorist acts (short of a nuclear explosion in metro area or weaponized bioterror, including ebola).

Exhibit 1 of hysteria.

Two people have contracted Ebola in the US -- only two. Please tell me how this is going to cause food shortages, financial panic. I mean, seriously, food shortages? Millions? This is complete hysteria. Take a xanax or something.

And by the way, has anyone noticed that ever single person treated in the US with the one example of Duncan -- who was extremely sick when he finally made it to the hospital and he was treated at a hospital that wasn't equipped for Ebola -- has survived? That is a very high survival rate, though of course the sample size is low. Both the nurses from the Texas hospital are recovering and will survive. All the others who were brought here have survived.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Did the doctor bleed or vomit on the train? At the bowling alley?

No and no.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did the doctor bleed or vomit on the train? At the bowling alley?

No and no.

Then why is everyone hating on him?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did the doctor bleed or vomit on the train? At the bowling alley?

No and no.

Then why is everyone hating on him?

Thats what Anonymous DCUrbanMom posts are for....

[Anonymous]

Nurse Nina Pham is being released from NIH today! Yaaay!

[Anonymous]

Funny, not so long ago it was all about "one, only one" on these boards. Now it's "only two." When do we drop the "only"? When someone actually crokes? I guess wanting to prevent unnecessary deaths is qualified as hysterical now. Sad, kinda.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:Funny, not so long ago it was all about "one, only one" on these boards. Now it's "only two." When do we drop the "only"? When someone actually crokes? I guess wanting to prevent unnecessary deaths is qualified as hysterical now. Sad, kinda.

The "two" are from the same incident. What's more notable about that incident is that the other 70 some personnel involved didn't get infected. Nor did Duncan's family who spent two days with him after he had a fever. The obvious conclusion to draw from this is that hysteria is not justified.