Breast crawl? Pulsating cord?

[Anonymous]

I've been seeing posts about wanting new baby to "breast crawl" and not clamping the cord until it stops pulsating. Can anyone explain what this is all about, provide links with info?

[Anonymous]

Delayed cord clamping: http://pregnancy.about.com/b/2009/09/04/delayed-cord-clamping.htm

Breast crawl: http://breastcrawl.org

[Anonymous]

I don't really see what the fuss is. We had a 'normal' hospital birth and I had no birth plan other than a healthy baby healthy mom outcome. When it was time to cut the cord, the OB told husband to wait, wait, ok now you can cut the cord ....... OB stated that there was a good time to cut the cord and you don't want to do it too soon. Baby was placed on my chest and L&D nurse said simply to watch, many babies will find the nipple and start to feed which is exactly what DD did. This was an OB from a practice that many on these boards are critical of because there are too many interventions, and a Sibley L&D nurse.

[Anonymous]

It's great that you had this experience, but I've attended a fair number of births, and delayed clamping and letting babies self-attach is not the norm. If someone wants to learn about these and request them, I can't see any harm in it.

Anonymous wrote:I don't really see what the fuss is. We had a 'normal' hospital birth and I had no birth plan other than a healthy baby healthy mom outcome. When it was time to cut the cord, the OB told husband to wait, wait, ok now you can cut the cord ....... OB stated that there was a good time to cut the cord and you don't want to do it too soon. Baby was placed on my chest and L&D nurse said simply to watch, many babies will find the nipple and start to feed which is exactly what DD did. This was an OB from a practice that many on these boards are critical of because there are too many interventions, and a Sibley L&D nurse.

[Anonymous]

Is there something wrong with bringing the baby to the breast rather than letting it crawl there?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is there something wrong with bringing the baby to the breast rather than letting it crawl there?

http://breastcrawl.org/faqs.htm#2.7

2.7 Why make the baby go through the entire process of breast crawl? It might be logical to help the baby to take the first breastfeed as soon as it shows readiness to suckle.

Mother-baby interactions at any time are not restricted to nutritional needs alone. The transition from the intrauterine to the extrauterine environment is made most comfortable by the Breast Crawl. Initiating early skin to skin contact offers many advantages which have been listed. Hence, focussing on the initiation of suckling alone is not justified.

Should the Breast Crawl be interrupted when a baby shows readiness to suckle? Will it be appropriate at this juncture to help the baby to attach? This needs further discussion and research. However, we feel that interrupting a natural instinctive process may not be beneficial. Continuing with the process, may provide early optimal natural stimulation to the various sensory organs and the brain. This may offer an advantage for better sensory-neural development. The baby reaches out to the nipple in a massaging movement. This not only protracts the nipple and makes it more prominent, but also releases a hormone called oxytocin. This helps the first breastfeed.

[Anonymous]

my lactation consultant told me that she found in her work that moms who had allowed their babies to self-attach after birth tended to have less latch problems when getting started with breastfeeding. she felt that maybe it was because they had let the baby take the lead in initatitng a good latch, rather than trying to do it themselves and overthinking the process or latching the baby on in a way that wasn't comfortable for the mom or baby. she had worked with thousands of nursing mothers so i felt that her perspective was a valuable one.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:my lactation consultant told me that she found in her work that moms who had allowed their babies to self-attach after birth tended to have less latch problems when getting started with breastfeeding. she felt that maybe it was because they had let the baby take the lead in initatitng a good latch, rather than trying to do it themselves and overthinking the process or latching the baby on in a way that wasn't comfortable for the mom or baby. she had worked with thousands of nursing mothers so i felt that her perspective was a valuable one.

Oh, give me a break! So many LCs are just bat-shit-crazy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:my lactation consultant told me that she found in her work that moms who had allowed their babies to self-attach after birth tended to have less latch problems when getting started with breastfeeding. she felt that maybe it was because they had let the baby take the lead in initatitng a good latch, rather than trying to do it themselves and overthinking the process or latching the baby on in a way that wasn't comfortable for the mom or baby. she had worked with thousands of nursing mothers so i felt that her perspective was a valuable one.

Oh, give me a break! So many LCs are just bat-shit-crazy.

Please. Her opinion and experience comes from somewhere and the PP said the LC said "maybe it was because..."

Again, if you ask someone why something is important, their answer is going to be informed by their own education and opinion on the subject at hand.

[Anonymous]

another guilty mum that chose formula over breast I bet!

[Anonymous]

worth to share from the website...

"Soon after delivery and after the baby has cried and started breathing well

The baby should be thoroughly dried (except for the hands) with a soft cotton cloth.

Hands must be properly washed with soap and water before touching the baby.

Then the baby is to be shown to the mother and kept close to her and held briefly in cheek-to-cheek contact. This enables the mother to kiss the baby and also facilitates the custom of saying a holy message in the baby's ear.

The baby is then placed prone in between the mother's breasts. The baby and the mother's chest are both naked, so that the baby has full skin-to-skin contact with the mother. The baby and the mother should be covered together with a cloth, so that they keep warm while continuing with skin to skin contact.

Care should be taken to prevent the baby from falling.

The baby is very alert and responsive soon after delivery and hence is at her best instinctive level.

The baby is kept warm by being in skin-to-skin contact with the mother. Touch is also a strong stimulus for neurodevelopment.

The baby's risk of infection is reduced because safe germs (bacteria) from the mother start to colonise her skin and intestines, and prevent harmful germs from growing.

This position ensures early instinctive stimulation and gives warmth, love, security and food. It also initiates the bonding process between the baby and the mother.

Whenever possible, raise mother's head on a pillow to facilitate mother-baby visual contact.

Kicks from the baby will give tender firm jerks to the womb stimulating it to contract. This will help to expel the placenta and reduce bleeding.

Once the baby realizes that food is in close proximity, she starts salivating.

Breast odour is a strong stimulus which drives the baby toward the nipple. The baby's sense of smell is well developed. The odour of a substance secreted by the nipple is similar to the smell of a substance in the amniotic fluid which surrounds the baby in the womb.

Nipple Massage by the baby makes it protract. This helps attachment. Nipple massage also releases a hormone called oxytocin in the mother. This helps to contract the uterus, reduce bleeding and prevent maternal anaemia.

The baby starts to make mouthing movements. The baby's hands should have amniotic fluid on them, as it guides the baby to the nipple.

The baby's shoulder, hip and neck muscles are sufficiently developed to help her move.

Even with her limited vision, the baby can see the areola. If the baby raises her head, she can also see her mother's face.

The baby then reaches the nipple, raises her head and gets nicely attached onto the nipple with her mouth wide open to take a mouthful of breast.

This first skin-to-skin contact must continue until the baby finishes her first breastfeed."

[Anonymous]

wow, that's not a very nice thing to say about my lactation consultant. i respect her expertise and experience and she helped me a lot with breastfeeding. you don't even know her -- why would you feel the need to judge her comment or LCs in general? it just makes you sound like a jerk.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:my lactation consultant told me that she found in her work that moms who had allowed their babies to self-attach after birth tended to have less latch problems when getting started with breastfeeding. she felt that maybe it was because they had let the baby take the lead in initatitng a good latch, rather than trying to do it themselves and overthinking the process or latching the baby on in a way that wasn't comfortable for the mom or baby. she had worked with thousands of nursing mothers so i felt that her perspective was a valuable one.

Oh, give me a break! So many LCs are just bat-shit-crazy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:another guilty mum that chose formula over breast I bet!

Ah, another self-righteous breast feeder..

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:another guilty mum that chose formula over breast I bet!

Ah, another self-righteous breast feeder..

Hooray, two more people who take other people's decisions personally.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:another guilty mum that chose formula over breast I bet!

Who is writing this stuff? It's so over the top that I'm beginning to think it is someone is writing nasty posts on both sides of the aisle just to start fights.