It's (finally) time for reparations. It's time for the US to pay its debt.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Reparations were paid already - 360,222 deaths from Americans fighting to end the confederacy. That’s more than reparations paid in blood, anguish and heartache

So ignorant. Nearly 200k free black men and escaped slaves fought for the Union. Also, the Union was not finding to end slavery - they were fighting to keep the union together. There were slave-owning states within the Union, e.g., MARYLAND.

OMG. You are literally giving history lessons from racist Southern high schools.

Let us take a minute to pray for your teachers, clearly they failed you tremendously. Reparations were not paid because white Americans died to free slaves while fighting in the Union army. Many POC fought for the Union. The war itself was not about ending slavery - it was indeed about preserving the Union. This is why, for example, the Emancipation Proclamation did not apply to Maryland: https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/md-politics/the-not-quite-free-state-maryland-dragged-its-feet-on-emancipation-during-civil-war/2013/09/13/a34d35de-fec7-11e2-bd97-676ec24f1f3f_story.html.

My.teachers taught me very well, thank you. Slavery was THE ISSUE that divided the union. Southern schools downplay this fact, I hear it from Southerners all the time.

There is no doubt that Lincoln intended to end slavery and that the South seceded for this reason. However Lincoln envisioned a gradual peaceful process. The war made that impossible. The Emancipation Proclamation exempted Unionist slave states to keep them loyal. This was a political move by Lincoln to help win the war, particularly as it applies to Maryland, because he could not win if Washington DC was surrounded by rebel states.

And of course, once the war was over, the Constitution was amended to end slavery everywhere.

Stop getting your history from newspapers and take a class in history.

And stop being so rude in your own ignorance. You are not helping your cause.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Reparations were paid already - 360,222 deaths from Americans fighting to end the confederacy. That’s more than reparations paid in blood, anguish and heartache

So ignorant. Nearly 200k free black men and escaped slaves fought for the Union. Also, the Union was not finding to end slavery - they were fighting to keep the union together. There were slave-owning states within the Union, e.g., MARYLAND.

OMG. You are literally giving history lessons from racist Southern high schools.

Let us take a minute to pray for your teachers, clearly they failed you tremendously. Reparations were not paid because white Americans died to free slaves while fighting in the Union army. Many POC fought for the Union. The war itself was not about ending slavery - it was indeed about preserving the Union. This is why, for example, the Emancipation Proclamation did not apply to Maryland: https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/md-politics/the-not-quite-free-state-maryland-dragged-its-feet-on-emancipation-during-civil-war/2013/09/13/a34d35de-fec7-11e2-bd97-676ec24f1f3f_story.html.

My.teachers taught me very well, thank you. Slavery was THE ISSUE that divided the union. Southern schools downplay this fact, I hear it from Southerners all the time.

There is no doubt that Lincoln intended to end slavery and that the South seceded for this reason. However Lincoln envisioned a gradual peaceful process. The war made that impossible. The Emancipation Proclamation exempted Unionist slave states to keep them loyal. This was a political move by Lincoln to help win the war, particularly as it applies to Maryland, because he could not win if Washington DC was surrounded by rebel states.

And of course, once the war was over, the Constitution was amended to end slavery everywhere.

Stop getting your history from newspapers and take a class in history.

And stop being so rude in your own ignorance. You are not helping your cause.

Just digressing a second because this question seems interesting to me: Let's say that the white Union soldiers who died were not, by and large, fighting to end slavery but were fighting to preserve the Union. Let's also say, however, that their service and their deaths were necessary to end slavery. Assuming those two things to be true, shouldn't their deaths count against white American's debts to slaves and their descendants? Or do those deaths only count if the soldiers were pure of heart?

(Personally, I don't think this is a debt that can be paid and there are big problems in determining who would owe what to whom among the living. The reason to address the issue is to fix problems that we have today; to make our country better. Not to settle up some sort of balance sheet. But, assuming the underlying premise of debts owed and debts paid, I'm curious about how much the deaths of Union soldiers who were not pure of heart should count.)

[Anonymous]

F reparation. The Chinese was brought over here as slaves to build the rail road system. They are among those who are respected, currently. Black ppl need to stop blaming others for their life choices. WTF. This is written by a non-white person with respectable black friends and yes, i use to live in the projects but made life choices to get out.

[Anonymous]

Why should my half hispanic, 2nd generation immigrant kid fund reparations?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:F reparation. The Chinese was brought over here as slaves to build the rail road system. They are among those who are respected, currently. Black ppl need to stop blaming others for their life choices. WTF. This is written by a non-white person with respectable black friends and yes, i use to live in the projects but made life choices to get out.

The reason you are able to enjoy the freedoms and benefits of this country to make something of yourself is thanks to Black Americans.

The reason why your people did not suffer as long of painfully is thanks to the system racism inflicted upon Black Americans. Please educate yourself before spewing this kind of hatred and repugnant lies.

Black Lives Matter.

[Anonymous]

Based on clinical observations and research, the researchers found that the tendency for interpersonal victimhood consists of four main dimensions: (a) constantly seeking recognition for one’s victimhood, (b) moral elitism, (c) lack of empathy for the pain and suffering of others, and (d) frequently ruminating about past victimization.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/unraveling-the-mindset-of-victimhood/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Based on clinical observations and research, the researchers found that the tendency for interpersonal victimhood consists of four main dimensions: (a) constantly seeking recognition for one’s victimhood, (b) moral elitism, (c) lack of empathy for the pain and suffering of others, and (d) frequently ruminating about past victimization.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/unraveling-the-mindset-of-victimhood/

You win the thread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Reparations were paid already - 360,222 deaths from Americans fighting to end the confederacy. That’s more than reparations paid in blood, anguish and heartache

So ignorant. Nearly 200k free black men and escaped slaves fought for the Union. Also, the Union was not finding to end slavery - they were fighting to keep the union together. There were slave-owning states within the Union, e.g., MARYLAND.

OMG. You are literally giving history lessons from racist Southern high schools.

Let us take a minute to pray for your teachers, clearly they failed you tremendously. Reparations were not paid because white Americans died to free slaves while fighting in the Union army. Many POC fought for the Union. The war itself was not about ending slavery - it was indeed about preserving the Union. This is why, for example, the Emancipation Proclamation did not apply to Maryland: https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/md-politics/the-not-quite-free-state-maryland-dragged-its-feet-on-emancipation-during-civil-war/2013/09/13/a34d35de-fec7-11e2-bd97-676ec24f1f3f_story.html.

My.teachers taught me very well, thank you. Slavery was THE ISSUE that divided the union. Southern schools downplay this fact, I hear it from Southerners all the time.

There is no doubt that Lincoln intended to end slavery and that the South seceded for this reason. However Lincoln envisioned a gradual peaceful process. The war made that impossible. The Emancipation Proclamation exempted Unionist slave states to keep them loyal. This was a political move by Lincoln to help win the war, particularly as it applies to Maryland, because he could not win if Washington DC was surrounded by rebel states.

And of course, once the war was over, the Constitution was amended to end slavery everywhere.

Stop getting your history from newspapers and take a class in history.

And stop being so rude in your own ignorance. You are not helping your cause.

Has there been another country or people that have gone to war with each other to affirm the humanity of a minority?

[Anonymous]

We need a culture of mixing like in Latin America.

[Anonymous]

Fine, let the US pay reparations.. But no more welfare, no more asking about race. You are now paid in full. Why the hell should I be responsible for something I had absolutely nothing to do with. Should we pay the Indians? Hell we took their country. How about all you liberals that think we owe someone $ because of our history, pay first. Start a go fund me page for every black American. Y'all should be able to raise plenty of cash.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Fine, let the US pay reparations.. But no more welfare, no more asking about race. You are now paid in full. Why the hell should I be responsible for something I had absolutely nothing to do with. Should we pay the Indians? Hell we took their country. How about all you liberals that think we owe someone $ because of our history, pay first. Start a go fund me page for every black American. Y'all should be able to raise plenty of cash.

THIS is why we shouldn't do reparations. I say this as a lefty. Most of the country will say, we're done, no more welfare or affirmative action. Or anything that would actually fix problems for the long-term, like fixing schools in low-income areas, SAT tutoring, college subsidies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We need a culture of mixing like in Latin America.

+1

And bonus because they love to party and don't care for politics!

[Anonymous]

Time to answer with your wallet: are you an ally, or a racist?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Time to answer with your wallet: are you an ally, or a racist?

Bogus question, false dichotomy, and all the rest.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Time to answer with your wallet: are you an ally, or a racist?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma#:~:text=A%20false%20dilemma%20(or%20sometimes,one%20additional%20logically%20valid%20option.