Why are people so upset about Common Core?

[Anonymous]

Suggest you investigate where the money is going.

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These are the ONLY schools using the Core Knowledge Curriculum you speak of in New York State, according to the Core Knowledge website. This is HARDLY every school in NY State:

Nope. See what I posted earlier. The New York State ELA Curriculum, at least for grades K-12, incorporates Core Knowledge in its domains.

I would love, love to have my kids in a core knowledge based curriculum system. Yes they push hard, but these kids blossom if given high quality content and curriculum. I am about to tear my hair out a the randomness of the worksheets and reading passages passing for education at my ward 3 school. We need more organized challenging curriculum. If there are problems it frankly sounds like teacher training, not the content.

[Anonymous]

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I agree with this. I think it can be confusing though- there are obviously a lot of well-informed people on here, but for a general parent with no background in education themselves and hasn't spent an extensive time researching it, how do they know whether the standard is the problem or the implementation? I had posted earlier about relatives complaining about specific science activities and blaming it on Common Core (they live in Mississippi). The more I talk to them, the more I realize their grasp on what Common Core covers (and doesn't) is pretty weak. But somebody told them this stuff was mandated and they believe it (and they're conservative and only watch Fox news, so it just kind of plays into that belief of big bad government anyway). They also thought CC was a nationwide curriculum, not just standards.

Well, with the internet, correct information is only a link away.

People are spreading misinformation via Facebook twitter and links to blogs, but correct information can also be spread.

And so is lots and lots (and lots and lots and lots and lots) of false information.

Sure, but that's why you link to the correct, authoritative source when you are having an argument with someone who says "Common Core is making my kids have to study Mesopotamia in 1st grade". You don't link to a Glenn Beck blog saying "Common Core is evil and the downfall of society" because he isn't an authoritative source. You link to the Common Core State Standards for Mesopotamia knowledge in 1st grade (there aren't any) and you link to the New York State website source of the Mesopotamia objectives (and that shows they come from Core Knowledge and are additional, not part of Common Core, and thus are things New York State itself added.

The problem is, a lot of people just believe whatever the see on Facebook or read on Twitter and don't go back to original sources.

[Anonymous]

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I said diagnose. You said you had that power. You don't and are recognizing now you really only have the power to refer, as per IDEA. You do not have the power to diagnose or suggest meds

No, I never said I could diagnose your child with anything. If you go back and look over this entire tiresome side conversation, you said something about your child getting stressed out by either incorrect or unclear homework to the point of vomiting. I said if that is frequently happening with your child, I would suggest you get the child evaluated for a learning disorder. YOu then said it would be illegal for me as a teacher to do so. I said, no, it would not be illegal. I repeatedly said I would ask that your child be evaluated for a learning problem. I never said I would diagnose your child.

That was not me who made the statement about vomiting. So you've been assuming things about my kid that aren't factual. Case in point

[Anonymous]

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Sure, but that's why you link to the correct, authoritative source when you are having an argument with someone who says "Common Core is making my kids have to study Mesopotamia in 1st grade". You don't link to a Glenn Beck blog saying "Common Core is evil and the downfall of society" because he isn't an authoritative source. You link to the Common Core State Standards for Mesopotamia knowledge in 1st grade (there aren't any) and you link to the New York State website source of the Mesopotamia objectives (and that shows they come from Core Knowledge and are additional, not part of Common Core, and thus are things New York State itself added.

The problem is, a lot of people just believe whatever the see on Facebook or read on Twitter and don't go back to original sources.

But people who link to Glenn Beck believe that he is the authoritative source, and all of the stuff you link to is misinformation, because "follow the money".

[Anonymous]

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Sure, but that's why you link to the correct, authoritative source when you are having an argument with someone who says "Common Core is making my kids have to study Mesopotamia in 1st grade". You don't link to a Glenn Beck blog saying "Common Core is evil and the downfall of society" because he isn't an authoritative source. You link to the Common Core State Standards for Mesopotamia knowledge in 1st grade (there aren't any) and you link to the New York State website source of the Mesopotamia objectives (and that shows they come from Core Knowledge and are additional, not part of Common Core, and thus are things New York State itself added.

The problem is, a lot of people just believe whatever the see on Facebook or read on Twitter and don't go back to original sources.

But people who link to Glenn Beck believe that he is the authoritative source, and all of the stuff you link to is misinformation, because "follow the money".

He has spent a lot of time and money on the research. I know him to be a fair man, who does not expect blind followers. He encourages people to check for themselves. Part of thinking for yourself is to follow the money.

[Anonymous]

But people who link to Glenn Beck believe that he is the authoritative source, and all of the stuff you link to is misinformation, because "follow the money".

Could you please source that?

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He has spent a lot of time and money on the research. I know him to be a fair man, who does not expect blind followers. He encourages people to check for themselves. Part of thinking for yourself is to follow the money.

Where am I supposed to follow the money to, and what am I supposed to conclude when I get there?

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But people who link to Glenn Beck believe that he is the authoritative source, and all of the stuff you link to is misinformation, because "follow the money".

Could you please source that?

Sure, see here: glennbeck.com

[Anonymous]

Ah, you're just mad because he caught Anita Dunn making some stupid statements.

[Anonymous]

I certainly don't agree with everything Glenn Beck says, but I just went to his website. Please tell me which of the current topics you find to be misinformation?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Suggest you investigate where the money is going.

Oh I would love to know this- have you already investigated and can you share the findings? I am lazy and don't have much time to do around. But again would LOVE to get to the bottom of this.

[Anonymous]

You are pretty naïve if you don't know that the publishing companies are the ones who benefit from major changes in curriculum. Please note that the mistakes being discussed on this board are usually from those companies. They've rushed to get the materials out.

[Anonymous]

These companies are always a problem with curriculum, etc. School districts just assume that they know what they are doing.

[Anonymous]

Oh, yes, and sometimes there is a very tight relationship with these companies and school boards, superintendents, etc. This is nothing new, but Common Core changes bring about a wholesale "need" for new materials.