Big Beautiful Bill

Anonymous
Its amazing people didn't have to work to get welfare and medacaid, i wish they would also start with turning away illegal immigrants trying to use the healthcare system even with pay.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:They’d rather invest in concentration camps and secret police than give people healthcare.


All while the dollar is declining.
Anonymous
Fundamental question here:

Does this bill fund the all the gov. departments for the next fiscal year?

Or is it just a lot of special policy provisions in one bill?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Fundamental question here:

Does this bill fund the all the gov. departments for the next fiscal year?

Or is it just a lot of special policy provisions in one bill?


This bill has nothing to do with funding govt. agencies. This just sets the framework for spending for the next 10 years and topline numbers (at least the House version did, don't know how aligned the Senate one is) for spending categories and how much each should cut or increase (e.g. ways and means should cut 3T reflecting tax cuts while energy/commerce and health reduce spending) Actual approps are being worked on and marked up right now.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Entire science budget shifts to prison owners.


When science said the shot would keep you from getting COVID and COVID came from a bat it was told to move out of Mom's basement and start covering its expenses.


You must believe that politicians have more knowledge about science than scientists. We see people like you all the time claiming Jesus chose Trump. Don’t know who’s worse
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Its amazing people didn't have to work to get welfare and medacaid, i wish they would also start with turning away illegal immigrants trying to use the healthcare system even with pay.


Sure just start padding down the unconscious John Doe to see if he has the right paperwork. No? Wheel him out to dump on the sidewalk. US citizen having a heart attack, need an emergent cardiac cath, but not carrying your proof of citizenship? Sorry, please head home to retrieve it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Fundamental question here:

Does this bill fund the all the gov. departments for the next fiscal year?

Or is it just a lot of special policy provisions in one bill?


This bill has nothing to do with funding govt. agencies. This just sets the framework for spending for the next 10 years and topline numbers (at least the House version did, don't know how aligned the Senate one is) for spending categories and how much each should cut or increase (e.g. ways and means should cut 3T reflecting tax cuts while energy/commerce and health reduce spending) Actual approps are being worked on and marked up right now.


Do you think the funding bills will be passed on time? More easily than usual? CRs until the last minute?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Why would do this when the dollar is tanking? Worst it’s been for decades.

Just a merry band of idiots. Very, very hard times ahead. They’re literally sinking a ship.


They are sinking the dollar on purpose, in order to force interest rates lower to reduce interest on the debt. Except that Powell isn't cooperating.

And also, even with lower interest rates (which we aren't getting), we still need a strong economy to service the debt, and austerity doesn't work (even if Musk thinks that Keynes is evil).
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Fundamental question here:

Does this bill fund the all the gov. departments for the next fiscal year?

Or is it just a lot of special policy provisions in one bill?


This bill has nothing to do with funding govt. agencies. This just sets the framework for spending for the next 10 years and topline numbers (at least the House version did, don't know how aligned the Senate one is) for spending categories and how much each should cut or increase (e.g. ways and means should cut 3T reflecting tax cuts while energy/commerce and health reduce spending) Actual approps are being worked on and marked up right now.


That’s not entirely right. This bill actually has a bunch of aproppriations in it for DoD and DHS in particular. They are supplemental to their regular appropriations.
Anonymous
There might be a spot of trouble in the House.

The comments come as conservatives like Rep. Ralph Norman (R-S.C.) are saying they won’t vote for the domestic policy legislation, which Senate Republicans passed on the thinnest of margins Tuesday afternoon after a grueling all-night vote-a-rama.

Norman told reporters outside the Rules committee that the House should send back its original plan to the Senate and leave town, instead of even considering the Senate Republican plan.

“My advice is to send the House bill back, pack our bags and go home and tell them to get serious,” Norman said of Senate Republicans.


https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2025/07/01/congress/mike-johnson-ralph-norman-senate-house-megabill-00436050
Anonymous
I don't think Republicans understand how health insurance works. They seem to think these are personal savings accounts. It's very cost effective to be run over by a garbage truck and die. But a battle with cancer is something else. You and your children's medical issues are not predictable, which is why we have insurance. That's great that you were run over by a garbage truck. Very cost efficient death. Bur Randy in small town Indiana is going to need the people paying into health insurance to pay for the treatment for his child's leukemia. And I don't think they get that at all. And Randy didn't save up for leukemia. I think Randy is a moron, but I want his kid to get the care they need.

With this bill, it's going to be a disaster at ERs all over the country - which definitely doesn't reduce costs. A whole bunch of near death people that could have been treated many stages earlier if they had insurance.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I don't think Republicans understand how health insurance works. They seem to think these are personal savings accounts. It's very cost effective to be run over by a garbage truck and die. But a battle with cancer is something else. You and your children's medical issues are not predictable, which is why we have insurance. That's great that you were run over by a garbage truck. Very cost efficient death. Bur Randy in small town Indiana is going to need the people paying into health insurance to pay for the treatment for his child's leukemia. And I don't think they get that at all. And Randy didn't save up for leukemia. I think Randy is a moron, but I want his kid to get the care they need.

With this bill, it's going to be a disaster at ERs all over the country - which definitely doesn't reduce costs. A whole bunch of near death people that could have been treated many stages earlier if they had insurance.


They are finally repealing Obamacare. They just don't want to admit to it.
Anonymous
For the House vote tomorrow:

Anonymous
Of course Lisa voted yes. So much for her “concern”
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