School Board Motion to Change the Pool for *this year*

[Anonymous]

Seems a little late, no?

What's the point of this? Why do they want to make standards lower at some of the centers but higher at schools without local level 4 or centers? Does this make sense to anyone?

Proposed Board Member Amendment(s):

I move that, for SY 20201, the pool of second grade students to be screened for AAP Level IV services will be identified by, (1) piloting the use local building norms in schools with AAP Local Level IV or AAP Level IV Center, and (2) continuing to use a national norms In schools that do not yet have a Level IV program. (Pekarsky)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Seems a little late, no?

What's the point of this? Why do they want to make standards lower at some of the centers but higher at schools without local level 4 or centers? Does this make sense to anyone?

Proposed Board Member Amendment(s):

I move that, for SY 20201, the pool of second grade students to be screened for AAP Level IV services will be identified by, (1) piloting the use local building norms in schools with AAP Local Level IV or AAP Level IV Center, and (2) continuing to use a national norms In schools that do not yet have a Level IV program. (Pekarsky)

What the heck are “local building norms”?

[Anonymous]

So what does this mean? Our Title 1 school does not have local level IV. Our kids will be held to national standards where the kids at the Title 1 center will be held to their own building standards? No one from our school will get in because the kids at the center will be in?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So what does this mean? Our Title 1 school does not have local level IV. Our kids will be held to national standards where the kids at the Title 1 center will be held to their own building standards? No one from our school will get in because the kids at the center will be in?

This sounds about like Stella Pekarsky's situation although her neighborhood school isn't Title I (because it's an AAP center school).

[Anonymous]

What about immersion schools that don't offer level IV. Students have to score even higher to get into AAP?

[Anonymous]

Although I don't understand this two tier system, it won't work this year with only the NNAT and no Cogat scores. Nothing will work this year. Admissions are just going to be a disaster for this year's kids.

[Anonymous]

Local norms at a school where there are already centers are probably much higher than national norms.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So what does this mean? Our Title 1 school does not have local level IV. Our kids will be held to national standards where the kids at the Title 1 center will be held to their own building standards? No one from our school will get in because the kids at the center will be in?

This sounds about like Stella Pekarsky's situation although her neighborhood school isn't Title I (because it's an AAP center school).

Her kids go to Bull Run. It scores low even WITH the AAP center. I am sure the “local building norms” are lower than the national norms.

And I thought the cogat was scaled for Fairfax, so based on Fairfax norms, which are ten points higher than “national” norms.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Local norms at a school where there are already centers are probably much higher than national norms.

No, because they are the norms for the base school 1st/2nd graders not the school as a whole. Right?
A lot of centers were put into failing schools to try to boost scores.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What about immersion schools that don't offer level IV. Students have to score even higher to get into AAP?

And schools without local 4 or immersion that don’t even offer advanced math til fifth? Those kids should not have a higher bar to get to a school with more academic challenge then kids who happen to live in a center or local level four boundary.

This makes no sense. What’s the point?

[Anonymous]

I just looked up Bull Run. Wow, I have never seen a center ranked a 4 in great schools before. That’s bad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I just looked up Bull Run. Wow, I have never seen a center ranked a 4 in great schools before. That’s bad.

I have a kid at Bull Run. If you think the surrounding schools are in any big hurry to get rid of their highest scoring students, I have a landfill in Centreville I’d like to sell you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I just looked up Bull Run. Wow, I have never seen a center ranked a 4 in great schools before. That’s bad.

Our center in western Fairfax is also rated a 4. Does that mean their 2nd graders will get in while other feeder schools' kids will be held to a higher standard?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just looked up Bull Run. Wow, I have never seen a center ranked a 4 in great schools before. That’s bad.

Our center in western Fairfax is also rated a 4. Does that mean their 2nd graders will get in while other feeder schools' kids will be held to a higher standard?

That’s the logical assumption from the plain language.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just looked up Bull Run. Wow, I have never seen a center ranked a 4 in great schools before. That’s bad.

Our center in western Fairfax is also rated a 4. Does that mean their 2nd graders will get in while other feeder schools' kids will be held to a higher standard?

That’s the logical assumption from the plain language.

This proposal stinks to high heaven. It should invite a lot of questions, including why certain centers in Fairfax have 5-6 feeder schools and are only accepting enough students to fill one or two very small AAP classes per grade.