APS Elementary boundaries superintendent recommendation

Anonymous
We live in Rosslyn so a fairly happy to be going to Key, but I did have a question about the sup presentation.

It said FARMS would be 32% at the new Key; does that take in to account the new Queens apartments project?

https://www.apsva.us/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/2020-11-03-Supt-Recom-ES-Boundary-FINAL-DRAFT-1.pdf

Also, was there grandfathering of 5th graders discussed; I watched most of recording and don’t think so but maybe I missed it.
Anonymous
Reid spoke to this and said New Key is on track to being a Title 1 school. Do school systems try to create a title 1 to capture more funding and consolidate resources for lower income families?
Anonymous
No the frl rate doesn’t include queens court. Queens court will likely push the rate up to 45% if my back of the envelope calculation is correct.
Anonymous
Yeah that rate is way too low. It doesn’t include farms kids from immersion that stay at new Key either from what I can tell.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Yeah that rate is way too low. It doesn’t include farms kids from immersion that stay at new Key either from what I can tell.



OMG. Yep sure it doesn’t. So Title 1 school. Is that by design?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Yeah that rate is way too low. It doesn’t include farms kids from immersion that stay at new Key either from what I can tell.



OMG. Yep sure it doesn’t. So Title 1 school. Is that by design?


They aren’t consolidating poor kids on purpose. If they were they would throw Woodbury park in there just for fun. It’s because the choice is either to have a high FARMS rate school at Key or to send kids from Rosslyn to Taylor. There aren’t any other options unless we are going to try to work out some upper/lower school situation with ASFS.
Anonymous
The upper/lower school isn’t happening. Aps is too dug in to their ways to do anything that might be out of the box. So you end up with a title 1 school in a neighborhood of 2-3 million dollar homes where everyone who the majority of kids who can walk there are zoned to another school that they can’t walk to that has a 5% frl rate. Great work aps!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The upper/lower school isn’t happening. Aps is too dug in to their ways to do anything that might be out of the box. So you end up with a title 1 school in a neighborhood of 2-3 million dollar homes where everyone who the majority of kids who can walk there are zoned to another school that they can’t walk to that has a 5% frl rate. Great work aps!


Right. Why isn’t Lyon Village being zoned to their walkable neighborhood school? Hello, APS. I thought this was the priority? They’re going to bus some of them to Taylor and some to ASFS instead?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yeah that rate is way too low. It doesn’t include farms kids from immersion that stay at new Key either from what I can tell.



OMG. Yep sure it doesn’t. So Title 1 school. Is that by design?


They aren’t consolidating poor kids on purpose. If they were they would throw Woodbury park in there just for fun. It’s because the choice is either to have a high FARMS rate school at Key or to send kids from Rosslyn to Taylor. There aren’t any other options unless we are going to try to work out some upper/lower school situation with ASFS.

They could send kids from Rosslyn to long branch. They could also send the kids from Ashlawn (the Ashlawn tail) to taylor, and have asfs take more of Rosslyn. Or send the Ashlawn tail to long branch and have asfs take more of Rosslyn.
Or they could do an upper/lower school— which I’ve heard most people express support of.
There are lots of options. Aps is too stubborn to do anything even remotely efficiently. Two years from now they will say they can’t balance demographics at key because they don’t want to move any of the planning units that are at key since they just moved them. Ridiculous!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yeah that rate is way too low. It doesn’t include farms kids from immersion that stay at new Key either from what I can tell.



OMG. Yep sure it doesn’t. So Title 1 school. Is that by design?


They aren’t consolidating poor kids on purpose. If they were they would throw Woodbury park in there just for fun. It’s because the choice is either to have a high FARMS rate school at Key or to send kids from Rosslyn to Taylor. There aren’t any other options unless we are going to try to work out some upper/lower school situation with ASFS.

They could send kids from Rosslyn to long branch. They could also send the kids from Ashlawn (the Ashlawn tail) to taylor, and have asfs take more of Rosslyn. Or send the Ashlawn tail to long branch and have asfs take more of Rosslyn.
Or they could do an upper/lower school— which I’ve heard most people express support of.
There are lots of options. Aps is too stubborn to do anything even remotely efficiently. Two years from now they will say they can’t balance demographics at key because they don’t want to move any of the planning units that are at key since they just moved them. Ridiculous!


OP here. I watched more of the presentation and reviewed existing maps versus future maps and what I see I’m doing is they’re trying to move as few students from aSFS as possible, because they plan to do a major rezoning in two years and can’t move kids twice. That is why the Lyon Village kids are staying at aSFS and Taylor in that weird shape. It’s temporary.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yeah that rate is way too low. It doesn’t include farms kids from immersion that stay at new Key either from what I can tell.



OMG. Yep sure it doesn’t. So Title 1 school. Is that by design?


They aren’t consolidating poor kids on purpose. If they were they would throw Woodbury park in there just for fun. It’s because the choice is either to have a high FARMS rate school at Key or to send kids from Rosslyn to Taylor. There aren’t any other options unless we are going to try to work out some upper/lower school situation with ASFS.

They could send kids from Rosslyn to long branch. They could also send the kids from Ashlawn (the Ashlawn tail) to taylor, and have asfs take more of Rosslyn. Or send the Ashlawn tail to long branch and have asfs take more of Rosslyn.
Or they could do an upper/lower school— which I’ve heard most people express support of.
There are lots of options. Aps is too stubborn to do anything even remotely efficiently. Two years from now they will say they can’t balance demographics at key because they don’t want to move any of the planning units that are at key since they just moved them. Ridiculous!


Long Branch isn’t really an option because they are already relatively higher FARMs (moving Rosslyn there would just make them 50% instead) and will need to absorb the new Red Cross development when it comes online https://newsroom.arlingtonva.us/release/former-red-cross-headquarters-site-to-be-redeveloped/

Sending the Ashlawn tail to Taylor isn’t any better than Rosslyn. It’s the same situation of an urban walkable area going to an inaccessible school.

Upper/lower is the only somewhat viable option and they obviously aren’t going to make that happen on a tight timeframe. The choice is Rosslyn to Taylor or New Key as high FARMs.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yeah that rate is way too low. It doesn’t include farms kids from immersion that stay at new Key either from what I can tell.



OMG. Yep sure it doesn’t. So Title 1 school. Is that by design?


They aren’t consolidating poor kids on purpose. If they were they would throw Woodbury park in there just for fun. It’s because the choice is either to have a high FARMS rate school at Key or to send kids from Rosslyn to Taylor. There aren’t any other options unless we are going to try to work out some upper/lower school situation with ASFS.

They could send kids from Rosslyn to long branch. They could also send the kids from Ashlawn (the Ashlawn tail) to taylor, and have asfs take more of Rosslyn. Or send the Ashlawn tail to long branch and have asfs take more of Rosslyn.
Or they could do an upper/lower school— which I’ve heard most people express support of.
There are lots of options. Aps is too stubborn to do anything even remotely efficiently. Two years from now they will say they can’t balance demographics at key because they don’t want to move any of the planning units that are at key since they just moved them. Ridiculous!


OP here. I watched more of the presentation and reviewed existing maps versus future maps and what I see I’m doing is they’re trying to move as few students from aSFS as possible, because they plan to do a major rezoning in two years and can’t move kids twice. That is why the Lyon Village kids are staying at aSFS and Taylor in that weird shape. It’s temporary.

They still pretty much filled key though— it’s at 521 kids (with queens court, that will be 621, which is at capacity). Lyon village/courthouse/Clarendon is not going to key. That’s not temporary. It’s been in every map they have ever put out— even the maps you could derive from the school moves.
The temporary part is that they want to move the planning units north of Lee highway that are currently at asfs to taylor, and they may want to keep parts of Lyon village at taylor so they don’t overfill asfs. The walkers at key are going to stay bus riders, it’s just going to be a question where they get bussed to.
Anonymous
Does anybody have an explanation of why 16090, which can walk to reed, is at glebe while 14090, which is closer to 4 other schools, is being bussed to reed?

Why not put 14090 at glebe and 16090 at reed. That seems really logical to m e.
Anonymous
IfATS is county wide and being moved to a larger building, and APS is having trouble with the 50/50 balance at immersion schools, why not make a larger building one immersion school?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yeah that rate is way too low. It doesn’t include farms kids from immersion that stay at new Key either from what I can tell.



OMG. Yep sure it doesn’t. So Title 1 school. Is that by design?


They aren’t consolidating poor kids on purpose. If they were they would throw Woodbury park in there just for fun. It’s because the choice is either to have a high FARMS rate school at Key or to send kids from Rosslyn to Taylor. There aren’t any other options unless we are going to try to work out some upper/lower school situation with ASFS.

They could send kids from Rosslyn to long branch. They could also send the kids from Ashlawn (the Ashlawn tail) to taylor, and have asfs take more of Rosslyn. Or send the Ashlawn tail to long branch and have asfs take more of Rosslyn.
Or they could do an upper/lower school— which I’ve heard most people express support of.
There are lots of options. Aps is too stubborn to do anything even remotely efficiently. Two years from now they will say they can’t balance demographics at key because they don’t want to move any of the planning units that are at key since they just moved them. Ridiculous!


Long Branch isn’t really an option because they are already relatively higher FARMs (moving Rosslyn there would just make them 50% instead) and will need to absorb the new Red Cross development when it comes online https://newsroom.arlingtonva.us/release/former-red-cross-headquarters-site-to-be-redeveloped/

Sending the Ashlawn tail to Taylor isn’t any better than Rosslyn. It’s the same situation of an urban walkable area going to an inaccessible school.

Upper/lower is the only somewhat viable option and they obviously aren’t going to make that happen on a tight timeframe. The choice is Rosslyn to Taylor or New Key as high FARMs.

Isn’t that development in the Barrett walk zone? I’m really disappointed by how we are ok with bussing walkers during a historic budget shortfall.
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