BOE - who are people voting for?

[Anonymous]

In addition to the Apple Ballot, the union representing paras, bus drivers, kitchen staff, services, etc., endorses:

https://www.seiu500.org/2024-endorsements

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Anonymous wrote:Who are the most conservative leaning candidates?

This is MoCo, so do you mean "center"?

I didn't ask the question but I guess?

Who are the candidates who aren't MomsForLiberty but will provide a nice balance to the progressives on the board?

Smondrowksi isn't progressive - she's balanced and listens to constituents.

I voted for her last time but honestly she’s done nothing of note during her time on the board. If she was more forceful in her questioning of MCPS I’d be inclined to give her another chance.

She had her shot and failed to deliver. It's time to get some new blood.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In addition to the Apple Ballot, the union representing paras, bus drivers, kitchen staff, services, etc., endorses:

https://www.seiu500.org/2024-endorsements

You’ve got to be kidding me. They endorsed all the current BOE? Are they even paying attention?! Talk about out of touch……

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Who are the most conservative leaning candidates?

This is MoCo, so do you mean "center"?

I didn't ask the question but I guess?

Who are the candidates who aren't MomsForLiberty but will provide a nice balance to the progressives on the board?

Smondrowksi isn't progressive - she's balanced and listens to constituents.

I voted for her last time but honestly she’s done nothing of note during her time on the board. If she was more forceful in her questioning of MCPS I’d be inclined to give her another chance.

Agree- too rubber stamp for me.

Hidayat isn’t moms4liberty (despite the earlier accusation) and seems ready to ask the tough question our current BOE hasn’t done in a long time. He’s getting my vote.

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Anonymous wrote:Who are the most conservative leaning candidates?

This is MoCo, so do you mean "center"?

I didn't ask the question but I guess?

Who are the candidates who aren't MomsForLiberty but will provide a nice balance to the progressives on the board?

Smondrowksi isn't progressive - she's balanced and listens to constituents.

I voted for her last time but honestly she’s done nothing of note during her time on the board. If she was more forceful in her questioning of MCPS I’d be inclined to give her another chance.

Or if voters were told exactly what role she had in the recent MCPS scandal!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:In addition to the Apple Ballot, the union representing paras, bus drivers, kitchen staff, services, etc., endorses:

https://www.seiu500.org/2024-endorsements

You’ve got to be kidding me. They endorsed all the current BOE? Are they even paying attention?! Talk about out of touch……

Better than what the Apple Ballot did. Great judges of character and integrity there.

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Anonymous wrote:Mui looks good to me...

For me, this just reaffirmed the Apple ballot was dead on. Still voting for Montoya, Zimmerman, and Stewart.

The Apple Ballot is usually dead on and generally gets their candidates elected, which is why our current BOE - most of whom were endorsed by the Apple Ballot - is doing such a stellar job. I agree we need to keep their streak going and vote in the new Apple Ballot slate.

The Apple ballot is fantastic this time though. Even better than other years. Definitely voting in the mainstream candidates not the RWNJs or incumbents.

+1 the Apple Ballot this year is doubling down on what has made the BOE so successful to date. Voting Apple Ballot is the only way to keep up the great work that the BOE - and its current Apple Ballot endorsees on the board now - has been doing.

DP. What are you talking about? There are 3 incumbents on the ballot this year. The Apple Ballot endorsed 0 of the incumbents. There are no incumbents on the Apple Ballot this year. Every candidate on the Apple Ballot is a non-incumbent.

The Apple Ballot this year is the realistic, we-need-change-but-not-from-cranks choice. I had decided, independently on my own, to vote for Montoya, Zimmerman, and Stewart, so it was interesting when I found out that those were the Apple Ballot choices.

Apple Ballot endorses Smondrowski and Evans:

https://moco360.media/2016/06/02/teachers-union-announces-endorsements-in-board-of-education-races/

I guess the fact that you think these 2 are so bad goes to show you how good the apple ballot is in picking successful BOE members.

You are citing the 2016 endorsement. It is not 2016. It is 2024. The Apple Ballot in 2024 is Montoya (not an incumbent), Zimmerman (not an incumbent), Stewart (not an incumbent).

Yes, and like the Apple Ballot endorsed Smondrowski and Evans, these 3 latest candidates will be amazing once they get to the BOE.

I think the job is harder than it looks - don't predict amazing just yet, 2 of those candidates have marginal experience in education affairs - Zimmerman, as a teacher, has no budgetary experience, and that is a very different job than managing oversight in a highly regulated $3.3 billion endeavor. Similarly, Montoya's experience as a PTA president of her elementary school, with no budgetary experience, does not make her a prepared candidate.

I agree about Zimmerman. She seems like a lovely lady and a nice teacher but I don’t think she has the experience to be on the board of education. Does she have kids? I don’t remember, but I don’t think she’s the answer, even though she has the endorsement.

She doesn't have kids, but I don't see why that should matter for a teacher from the system. She's seen more MCPS problems up close than most parents would.

Yes, I know that and I also agree with that but I have also criticized Mendel for not having kids in the system so I need to be consistent with my own logic.

Who are you voting for in district 2? I don't like any of the candidates. Or I should say - I won't vote for Smondrowki as the incumbent, or Diaz as a mom for liberty, and all the other candidates seem meh. -DP

[Anonymous]

It looks like the other thread was removed about Rita Montoya, and an article that came out about bylaws and resigning from the PTA before running. does anybody know why?

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:It looks like the other thread was removed about Rita Montoya, and an article that came out about bylaws and resigning from the PTA before running. does anybody know why?

The OP of that thread had consistently sock puppeted throughout the thread. It appeared to be more of a oppo campaign ad instead of a discussion.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It looks like the other thread was removed about Rita Montoya, and an article that came out about bylaws and resigning from the PTA before running. does anybody know why?

The OP of that thread had consistently sock puppeted throughout the thread. It appeared to be more of a oppo campaign ad instead of a discussion.

OK thank you I appreciate the explanation. Can we discuss it here? I thought it was pretty important and I was glad to have read that thread.

[jsteele]

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Anonymous wrote:It looks like the other thread was removed about Rita Montoya, and an article that came out about bylaws and resigning from the PTA before running. does anybody know why?

The OP of that thread had consistently sock puppeted throughout the thread. It appeared to be more of a oppo campaign ad instead of a discussion.

OK thank you I appreciate the explanation. Can we discuss it here? I thought it was pretty important and I was glad to have read that thread.

Unfortunately when posters sock puppet in this manner it puts everything they have posted in doubt. If you can support what you want to say with authoritative sources, it should be okay. But I will be viewing things very skeptically. Ironically, I discovered the sock puppeting by accident while simply trying to evaluate ad formats on an iPad. It wasn't even my intention to look for such a thing.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It looks like the other thread was removed about Rita Montoya, and an article that came out about bylaws and resigning from the PTA before running. does anybody know why?

The OP of that thread had consistently sock puppeted throughout the thread. It appeared to be more of a oppo campaign ad instead of a discussion.
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Then why did you delete the discussion? Your deletion looks like support for a candidate. Cultural nights never give councilmembers a platform. It is a night to celebrate students, not adults.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It looks like the other thread was removed about Rita Montoya, and an article that came out about bylaws and resigning from the PTA before running. does anybody know why?

The OP of that thread had consistently sock puppeted throughout the thread. It appeared to be more of a oppo campaign ad instead of a discussion.

was there ever any doubt?

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:It looks like the other thread was removed about Rita Montoya, and an article that came out about bylaws and resigning from the PTA before running. does anybody know why?

The OP of that thread had consistently sock puppeted throughout the thread. It appeared to be more of a oppo campaign ad instead of a discussion.

OK thank you I appreciate the explanation. Can we discuss it here? I thought it was pretty important and I was glad to have read that thread.

Unfortunately when posters sock puppet in this manner it puts everything they have posted in doubt. If you can support what you want to say with authoritative sources, it should be okay. But I will be viewing things very skeptically. Ironically, I discovered the sock puppeting by accident while simply trying to evaluate ad formats on an iPad. It wasn't even my intention to look for such a thing.

The post was heavily sourced. Maybe you should have paid attention.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It looks like the other thread was removed about Rita Montoya, and an article that came out about bylaws and resigning from the PTA before running. does anybody know why?

The OP of that thread had consistently sock puppeted throughout the thread. It appeared to be more of a oppo campaign ad instead of a discussion.

OK thank you I appreciate the explanation. Can we discuss it here? I thought it was pretty important and I was glad to have read that thread.

Unfortunately when posters sock puppet in this manner it puts everything they have posted in doubt. If you can support what you want to say with authoritative sources, it should be okay. But I will be viewing things very skeptically. Ironically, I discovered the sock puppeting by accident while simply trying to evaluate ad formats on an iPad. It wasn't even my intention to look for such a thing.

Thanks again. I’m an active participant ( was not the op of that thread) and don’t always identify myself as a previous poster or by my time (because I would have to scroll back, find my post, and the time I commented). Is that OK? I don’t want to be considered a puppeteer but short of registering what else can I do? I struggle with being an active participant, but not a sock puppet.