War with Iran

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Anonymous wrote:Meanwhile Trump's Benghazis may be starting to unfold around US consulates and facilities in the Islamic world:



Are we going to hear the criticisms of Trump and Rubio rising up from the Trey Gowdys and the Jim Jordans and the Lindsey Grahams, or are they going to remain hypocritically silent?


Good lord. Trump is the dumbest man alive and the world will take decades to heal from this.
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Anonymous wrote:From the war planning area in Mar a Lardo. Note the yellow bars on the screen, which indicate classified information is being displayed. But her emails!



That's a banner of the classification of the overall system. You certainly can hsve screens of data that are unclassified on that system.

Do you know what portion marking is?


Are you defending that the president of the United States is waging war with Israel from a section of a ballroom covered in drapes and located in his country club in FL? Just want to be clear before we proceed.


For real. I’ll never understand why Americans give trump a pass on pretty much everything. He’s a shitty president. Setting aside everything shitty he’s done and doing, the economy isn’t even as good as it was under Biden. It’s nowhere near as good as it was in the 90s. Truly, I will never understand why America elected this shitty man to be its leader.


I don’t understand it either. Especially now, with a 36% approval rating, how do we let him get away with everything?

Congress. If you want change, you must vote not just for the presidency, but the legislative branches in both federal and state governments. The state legislatures determine a lot of the outcome of the federal legislation because they draw up the voting districts aka gerrymandering.
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France has a Navy?

I did not know that


France is one of only 6 or 7 nations that has a true blue-water navy including an aircraft carrier, 10 destroyers, 12 frigates, 9 submarines including nuclear, amphibious assault ships, patrol vessels, mine warfare ships.
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Trump is controlled by Putin so he - let me get this straight - murders the head of Russia’s greatest ally. Is that correct?
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OMG Putin has pee tapes on Trump so Trump can do nothing but…kill Putin’s bestie. Oh okay.
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the US bombed the houses of the opposition leaders.

That isn't the way to install new leadership.
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Anonymous wrote:“With none of Trump’s public rationales making any sense, the most compelling reason to start a war seems to be to distract from the growing Epstein files scandal.”

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“With none of Trump’s public rationales making any sense, the most compelling reason to start a war seems to be to distract from the growing Epstein files scandal.

His popularity plummeting, his MAGA coalition fracturing, and new disclosures from the Epstein files coming every day and getting more graphic on his possible involvement in sexual abuse, Trump needs to change the conversation. War with Venezuela worked for a while, but something bigger is needed now. A sustained war may also help him declare a state of emergency that he wants to justify interference in elections he is now likely to lose.”


An extended war with Iran is going to make him even less popular if that's possible. He's failing in every possible way.

He thinks it will be swift, like Venezuela.


Nothing changed in Venezuela though. Maduro is at Club Fed in the US while his government is still operating there.

But Venezuela did not fight back and Trump claimed a military victory. Did you not watch the SOU address.
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The leader of Iran oppressed women and gays.
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Anonymous wrote:Bonus: Trump is starving China of petroleum. First Venezuela and now Iran.


China has cut their oil demand by 30% because of their adoption of EV, has been buying oil for its reserves for years(keeping a floor on the market) and oil is a commodity.

This last part is what maga people like yourself do not understand. There is no starving china of oil. Oil prices will go up and China will stop filling its revenues. High oil price means gasoline price in the states will rise.

Better fill your car up now because on Monday gasoline prices go up.


A Chinese friend of mine just came back from visiting his brother in Beijing, he hadn't been back to China in over 10 years and was shocked at how much the air quality has improved, how much cleaner and nicer things had gotten, how hardly anyone drives gas vehicles anymore, and was impressed at how they have built out their renewable energy infrastructure to include reservoirs and pumping stations for energy storage - they fill the reservoirs when they have excess energy and use hydro when there is extra demand, filling their gaps and reducing need even for gas peaker plants. We are falling behind and are stuck on external dependencies like oil that will hurt us badly. And it's ALL because of Trump and Republicans.


Agreed. We need to stop burying our heads in the sand and insist on “we are the best” at everything and instead look for examples of where other countries do it better. That is what has made America great - our embrace of diverse and innovative ideas and I think since FDR we have pushed back on new ideas or dismantled them. I read an article a year or so ago about how Chinese leaders often have engineering backgrounds and the US our policymakers are often lawyers. That kind of summed it all up for me. We don’t need a law or act, we need actions that solve problems.

Trump is horrible and it’s sad human lives are being taken. And it’s painful to see how Congress is letting him proceed running this war illegally. But we are now in it. Let’s hope Israel’s intelligence is as good as we think it is and Iranian hardline leadership is removed swiftly and there is a non religious nut job available to step in. A lot of ifs though.
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Anonymous wrote:“With none of Trump’s public rationales making any sense, the most compelling reason to start a war seems to be to distract from the growing Epstein files scandal.”

https://trib.al/iV6Xjdb

“With none of Trump’s public rationales making any sense, the most compelling reason to start a war seems to be to distract from the growing Epstein files scandal.

His popularity plummeting, his MAGA coalition fracturing, and new disclosures from the Epstein files coming every day and getting more graphic on his possible involvement in sexual abuse, Trump needs to change the conversation. War with Venezuela worked for a while, but something bigger is needed now. A sustained war may also help him declare a state of emergency that he wants to justify interference in elections he is now likely to lose.”


An extended war with Iran is going to make him even less popular if that's possible. He's failing in every possible way.

He thinks it will be swift, like Venezuela.


I really don’t know what he’s thinking. In a couple weeks when we’re running low on munitions, either some lower level of leadership will be in charge or there will be a bloody power struggle. There is zero chance some pro-US faction will suddenly take over.
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Funny that the majority of DCUM liberals are firmly on the side of Tucker, Fuentes, and Ilhan Omar today.
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Anonymous wrote:Who’s planning their next vacations to Gaza, Venezuela or Baghdad?

No one. These places don’t get fixed overnight. You just don’t take out the leader and everything then works ok. All of Trumps actions are done without strategy or long-term plans. He’s always lacked attention to detail and loss of interest. And he always picks places that don’t really have the infrastructure to defend themselves or counter-attack.

#Be Best



Change doesn't happen when you do nothing, hoping bad actors will miraculously and spontaneously change their goals and objectives without "encouragement". Nobody thinks Israel would be safe if Gaza is not flattened, nobody thinks the U.S. would avoid eventual Iranian nuclear holocaust by ignoring the threat posed by the Islamic regime. Be a threat, be treated as one.

Hyperbolic much. They used this same talking point against Pakistan. It's been thirty-years and no nuclear holocaust. Only one country has used nukes on another country. Guess who? You got it. US.
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Anonymous wrote:Bonus: Trump is starving China of petroleum. First Venezuela and now Iran.

So will this force China to take a side and start providing weaponry to Iran which can be used against Trump and Netanyahu?


Doubtful. China doesn’t need as much oil any longer, and it can still get what it needs on the world market and from Russia.

I wouldn’t be surprised to see china sending some systems into Iran just to test out how they work. You don’t get a lot of opportunities to see how well your air defense system works against F35s in real combat.
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Libs love Iranian suppression of women and gays.

What they hate is freedom and capitalism.

Trump is a existential threat
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Anonymous wrote:CENTCOM has confirmed 3 US soliders KIA.

3 too many. F these people.


While operations are coordinated at a members-only, private beach club — in between fundraisers and parties.


So much this...but hey maybe those inconvenient files and victims will quiet down
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