If you are wealthy would you send your kids to a W school over private?

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Anonymous wrote:Why would a college accept a kid from a school with very few advanced classes?

Legacy
Money
Sports
Special talents.

The same reasons these kids are accepted at private schools

Ah ok. Got it. So none of them are actually any good at teaching kids anything. Rich people just choose mediocrity for their kids.

We don't need anything more academically. The kids get the advantages in the soft skills and colleges rank them higher because of this.

Huh?

There have been so many studies on this, especially since the college admissions scandle. Just Google "private school advantage in college admissions" or something of that nature. The advantage will never go away (unfortunately). The UC are really good at helping and insulating themselves for centuries if not millenia. The categories for college admissions will change with time, but there will always be a way to give slight advantage to already advantaged folks. It's always been that way.

Remember, women began entering the workforce in droves in the 70s and still are represented at 3% in top jobs, have unequal pay in almost every industry, and still take on the lions share of work at home. White men however still have the advantage in every category.

Why do you think public vs private schools is somehow going to magically escape human psychology and be fair?

I'm from the UMC and slightly pierce into UC circles. Of course, I see the advantages and want my kids to have them. I will likely never be UC, but my kids definitely have a chance. And they do have the mannerisms, peer group, and education to support it.

My Father-in-Law grew up poor and is now pretty wealthy. He has been encouraging us to send our kids to private school (especially high school) because in life, it's truly who you know and not what you know that makes a difference. This is how life works for the most part, whether we like it or not.

Exactly. The quality of education sucks. But that doesn’t matter.

Well.... no really.

It's a different type of education. If you want them to learn multi-variable Calculus (or difficult math in public school), I have to question why. I am a scientist and the last time I used it was to pass the AP exam in HS. On the other hand, if you want them to learn soft skills (learned in private schools), the last time I used that was today dealing with some colleagues. So which skills are more relevant? What exactly is an "education" to you?

In Spanish the phrase "mala educación" or "bad education" literally means poor manners. This idea of soft skills/ private school advantage transcends cultural boundaries and time. You can find similar things the world over.

Private school alone does not teach or refine soft skills. They need to be taught and practiced in arenas outside of school. Often.

-Signed a private school graduate

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Anonymous wrote:Why would a college accept a kid from a school with very few advanced classes?

Legacy
Money
Sports
Special talents.

The same reasons these kids are accepted at private schools

Ah ok. Got it. So none of them are actually any good at teaching kids anything. Rich people just choose mediocrity for their kids.

We don't need anything more academically. The kids get the advantages in the soft skills and colleges rank them higher because of this.

Huh?

There have been so many studies on this, especially since the college admissions scandle. Just Google "private school advantage in college admissions" or something of that nature. The advantage will never go away (unfortunately). The UC are really good at helping and insulating themselves for centuries if not millenia. The categories for college admissions will change with time, but there will always be a way to give slight advantage to already advantaged folks. It's always been that way.

Remember, women began entering the workforce in droves in the 70s and still are represented at 3% in top jobs, have unequal pay in almost every industry, and still take on the lions share of work at home. White men however still have the advantage in every category.

Why do you think public vs private schools is somehow going to magically escape human psychology and be fair?

I'm from the UMC and slightly pierce into UC circles. Of course, I see the advantages and want my kids to have them. I will likely never be UC, but my kids definitely have a chance. And they do have the mannerisms, peer group, and education to support it.

My Father-in-Law grew up poor and is now pretty wealthy. He has been encouraging us to send our kids to private school (especially high school) because in life, it's truly who you know and not what you know that makes a difference. This is how life works for the most part, whether we like it or not.

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All these Feds working in the area are highly educated and smart, yet make no money.
It takes a lot more than education to be wealthy. The wealthy know that.

Lol at “no money”….. you must live in a bubble.

Making 200K a year each is nothing by my standards. Aim higher

DP
I use statistics, similar to what the government does. I think 2 educated working feds are squarely UMC. When one uses stats as cutoffs it doesn't really matter what others "think", because there are defined boundaries.

Perhaps top 1% of net worth for the DC area should be considered. That's over 20 million.

Happy slicing:
https://dqydj.com/income-by-city/
Or
https://dqydj.com/net-worth-percentile-calculator-united-states/

Also many calculators to slice by age, gender, and other demographics.

Upper class is usually defined above 5% or 2.5%, depending on which economist is publishing. Only looking at the top 1% is really myopic. But hey, do what you want and let others do the same. I trust the professionals in this field and normally go with 2.5 or 5 depending on the point I'm trying to make. Top 2.5% in DC is closer to NW of 7M and HHI of 650k.

"Wealthy" is usually defined by top quintile which would include dual Fed households in DC - NW 700k, HHI 225k.

So you can have a very narrowly defined group but it doesn't say anything about the population as a whole. Plus, it's not helpful to hurl insults the way some PPs did - not saying you specifically, but some did. It is helpful to define criteria and categorize appropriately.

At my country club a HHI of 1 to 1.5 million is about average. Same with a 7 to 12 million net worth. I get that may be a bubble. But I like that it pushes me to think bigger and achieve more.

??? Achieve more what? Are you sure you in a country club because this is it the thought process of anyone I know. At a certain net worth, the focus becomes maintenance and doing more for the collective good. I think you need to look inward. No one’s eulogy read, she attained more money.

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Anonymous wrote:Why would a college accept a kid from a school with very few advanced classes?

Legacy
Money
Sports
Special talents.

The same reasons these kids are accepted at private schools

Ah ok. Got it. So none of them are actually any good at teaching kids anything. Rich people just choose mediocrity for their kids.

We don't need anything more academically. The kids get the advantages in the soft skills and colleges rank them higher because of this.

Huh?

There have been so many studies on this, especially since the college admissions scandle. Just Google "private school advantage in college admissions" or something of that nature. The advantage will never go away (unfortunately). The UC are really good at helping and insulating themselves for centuries if not millenia. The categories for college admissions will change with time, but there will always be a way to give slight advantage to already advantaged folks. It's always been that way.

Remember, women began entering the workforce in droves in the 70s and still are represented at 3% in top jobs, have unequal pay in almost every industry, and still take on the lions share of work at home. White men however still have the advantage in every category.

Why do you think public vs private schools is somehow going to magically escape human psychology and be fair?

I'm from the UMC and slightly pierce into UC circles. Of course, I see the advantages and want my kids to have them. I will likely never be UC, but my kids definitely have a chance. And they do have the mannerisms, peer group, and education to support it.

My Father-in-Law grew up poor and is now pretty wealthy. He has been encouraging us to send our kids to private school (especially high school) because in life, it's truly who you know and not what you know that makes a difference. This is how life works for the most part, whether we like it or not.

Exactly. The quality of education sucks. But that doesn’t matter.

Well.... no really.

It's a different type of education. If you want them to learn multi-variable Calculus (or difficult math in public school), I have to question why. I am a scientist and the last time I used it was to pass the AP exam in HS. On the other hand, if you want them to learn soft skills (learned in private schools), the last time I used that was today dealing with some colleagues. So which skills are more relevant? What exactly is an "education" to you?

In Spanish the phrase "mala educación" or "bad education" literally means poor manners. This idea of soft skills/ private school advantage transcends cultural boundaries and time. You can find similar things the world over.

Private school alone does not teach or refine soft skills. They need to be taught and practiced in arenas outside of school. Often.

-Signed a private school graduate

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Anonymous wrote:Why would a college accept a kid from a school with very few advanced classes?

Legacy
Money
Sports
Special talents.

The same reasons these kids are accepted at private schools

Ah ok. Got it. So none of them are actually any good at teaching kids anything. Rich people just choose mediocrity for their kids.

We don't need anything more academically. The kids get the advantages in the soft skills and colleges rank them higher because of this.

Huh?

There have been so many studies on this, especially since the college admissions scandle. Just Google "private school advantage in college admissions" or something of that nature. The advantage will never go away (unfortunately). The UC are really good at helping and insulating themselves for centuries if not millenia. The categories for college admissions will change with time, but there will always be a way to give slight advantage to already advantaged folks. It's always been that way.

Remember, women began entering the workforce in droves in the 70s and still are represented at 3% in top jobs, have unequal pay in almost every industry, and still take on the lions share of work at home. White men however still have the advantage in every category.

Why do you think public vs private schools is somehow going to magically escape human psychology and be fair?

I'm from the UMC and slightly pierce into UC circles. Of course, I see the advantages and want my kids to have them. I will likely never be UC, but my kids definitely have a chance. And they do have the mannerisms, peer group, and education to support it.

My Father-in-Law grew up poor and is now pretty wealthy. He has been encouraging us to send our kids to private school (especially high school) because in life, it's truly who you know and not what you know that makes a difference. This is how life works for the most part, whether we like it or not.

+1
All these Feds working in the area are highly educated and smart, yet make no money.
It takes a lot more than education to be wealthy. The wealthy know that.

Lol at “no money”….. you must live in a bubble.

Making 200K a year each is nothing by my standards. Aim higher

DP
I use statistics, similar to what the government does. I think 2 educated working feds are squarely UMC. When one uses stats as cutoffs it doesn't really matter what others "think", because there are defined boundaries.

Perhaps top 1% of net worth for the DC area should be considered. That's over 20 million.

Happy slicing:
https://dqydj.com/income-by-city/
Or
https://dqydj.com/net-worth-percentile-calculator-united-states/

Also many calculators to slice by age, gender, and other demographics.

Upper class is usually defined above 5% or 2.5%, depending on which economist is publishing. Only looking at the top 1% is really myopic. But hey, do what you want and let others do the same. I trust the professionals in this field and normally go with 2.5 or 5 depending on the point I'm trying to make. Top 2.5% in DC is closer to NW of 7M and HHI of 650k.

"Wealthy" is usually defined by top quintile which would include dual Fed households in DC - NW 700k, HHI 225k.

So you can have a very narrowly defined group but it doesn't say anything about the population as a whole. Plus, it's not helpful to hurl insults the way some PPs did - not saying you specifically, but some did. It is helpful to define criteria and categorize appropriately.

At my country club a HHI of 1 to 1.5 million is about average. Same with a 7 to 12 million net worth. I get that may be a bubble. But I like that it pushes me to think bigger and achieve more.

??? Achieve more what? Are you sure you in a country club because this is it the thought process of anyone I know. At a certain net worth, the focus becomes maintenance and doing more for the collective good. I think you need to look inward. No one’s eulogy read, she attained more money.

this is not the thought process

[Anonymous]

In private school, your kid will be surrounded by wealthy families which might be helpful for future networking/job opportunities.

In public school your kid will be surrounded with a diverse student body that for the majority aren't entitled. Public school kids tend to hustle more.

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Anonymous wrote:In private school, your kid will be surrounded by wealthy families which might be helpful for future networking/job opportunities.

In public school your kid will be surrounded with a diverse student body that for the majority aren't entitled. Public school kids tend to hustle more.

The generalizations on this thread are ridiculous.

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Look at all these losers who became house poor moving to Potomac in an effort to avoid actually taking responsibility for their kid’s education. And then they’re all claiming like their poor despite living in the richest zip codes in the nation. 🤣🤣🤣

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And LOL at you all claiming these schools are diverse. They’re as diverse as a box of milk toast with a bag of rice next to it.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why would a college accept a kid from a school with very few advanced classes?

Legacy
Money
Sports
Special talents.

The same reasons these kids are accepted at private schools

Ah ok. Got it. So none of them are actually any good at teaching kids anything. Rich people just choose mediocrity for their kids.

We don't need anything more academically. The kids get the advantages in the soft skills and colleges rank them higher because of this.

Huh?

There have been so many studies on this, especially since the college admissions scandle. Just Google "private school advantage in college admissions" or something of that nature. The advantage will never go away (unfortunately). The UC are really good at helping and insulating themselves for centuries if not millenia. The categories for college admissions will change with time, but there will always be a way to give slight advantage to already advantaged folks. It's always been that way.

Remember, women began entering the workforce in droves in the 70s and still are represented at 3% in top jobs, have unequal pay in almost every industry, and still take on the lions share of work at home. White men however still have the advantage in every category.

Why do you think public vs private schools is somehow going to magically escape human psychology and be fair?

I'm from the UMC and slightly pierce into UC circles. Of course, I see the advantages and want my kids to have them. I will likely never be UC, but my kids definitely have a chance. And they do have the mannerisms, peer group, and education to support it.

My Father-in-Law grew up poor and is now pretty wealthy. He has been encouraging us to send our kids to private school (especially high school) because in life, it's truly who you know and not what you know that makes a difference. This is how life works for the most part, whether we like it or not.

Exactly. The quality of education sucks. But that doesn’t matter.

Well.... no really.

It's a different type of education. If you want them to learn multi-variable Calculus (or difficult math in public school), I have to question why. I am a scientist and the last time I used it was to pass the AP exam in HS. On the other hand, if you want them to learn soft skills (learned in private schools), the last time I used that was today dealing with some colleagues. So which skills are more relevant? What exactly is an "education" to you?

In Spanish the phrase "mala educación" or "bad education" literally means poor manners. This idea of soft skills/ private school advantage transcends cultural boundaries and time. You can find similar things the world over.

Private school alone does not teach or refine soft skills. They need to be taught and practiced in arenas outside of school. Often.

-Signed a private school graduate

Yes. It is still a better place for practice than public. And just to get it out there - there is no schooling substitute for parenting either.

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I’m an MCPS teacher and graduate of a DMV private school. The two biggest advantages private schools have are smaller class sizes and way less violence. The first time I saw students fighting at school was during my time as a student teacher. It simply didn’t happen at either of the private schools I attended. Students knew that they would be expelled. Conversely, I felt very cheated when my college friends talked about taking shop, or photography, or home economics. The selection of classes is typically a lot smaller in private school. If your child can excel in larger classes and isn’t bothered by fights in the hallway…they’ll probably get a better education in any MCPS school. That being said, my mother worked 2 jobs to pay for my high school tuition, and neither she or I regretted that decision.

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Anonymous wrote:Why would a college accept a kid from a school with very few advanced classes?

Legacy
Money
Sports
Special talents.

The same reasons these kids are accepted at private schools

Ah ok. Got it. So none of them are actually any good at teaching kids anything. Rich people just choose mediocrity for their kids.

We don't need anything more academically. The kids get the advantages in the soft skills and colleges rank them higher because of this.

Huh?

There have been so many studies on this, especially since the college admissions scandle. Just Google "private school advantage in college admissions" or something of that nature. The advantage will never go away (unfortunately). The UC are really good at helping and insulating themselves for centuries if not millenia. The categories for college admissions will change with time, but there will always be a way to give slight advantage to already advantaged folks. It's always been that way.

Remember, women began entering the workforce in droves in the 70s and still are represented at 3% in top jobs, have unequal pay in almost every industry, and still take on the lions share of work at home. White men however still have the advantage in every category.

Why do you think public vs private schools is somehow going to magically escape human psychology and be fair?

I'm from the UMC and slightly pierce into UC circles. Of course, I see the advantages and want my kids to have them. I will likely never be UC, but my kids definitely have a chance. And they do have the mannerisms, peer group, and education to support it.

My Father-in-Law grew up poor and is now pretty wealthy. He has been encouraging us to send our kids to private school (especially high school) because in life, it's truly who you know and not what you know that makes a difference. This is how life works for the most part, whether we like it or not.

Exactly. The quality of education sucks. But that doesn’t matter.

Well.... no really.

It's a different type of education. If you want them to learn multi-variable Calculus (or difficult math in public school), I have to question why. I am a scientist and the last time I used it was to pass the AP exam in HS. On the other hand, if you want them to learn soft skills (learned in private schools), the last time I used that was today dealing with some colleagues. So which skills are more relevant? What exactly is an "education" to you?

In Spanish the phrase "mala educación" or "bad education" literally means poor manners. This idea of soft skills/ private school advantage transcends cultural boundaries and time. You can find similar things the world over.

All the top private schools offer BC calc.

Yes, but you clearly missed the point.

No. The point is that this discussion is meaningless because in private schools you can take BC calc and learn soft skills. You don’t actually have to choose.

The point is BC calculus doesn't matter as much as (some) people think it does. So, yeah, you missed the point.

I’m rejecting the premise of this entire discussion.

Ah, I know your type. Lemme guess...

You send your kids to a Big 3 or highly academic private where they excel academically. They set the curve! Your family is of a specific demographic (not white, not under represented). Your kids are socially awkward, and therefore, you are not getting your $45k+ worth. It doesn't really matter to you, because you don't see this point and have a brand label school to brag to your friends. You will wonder why some of the less smart kids from the very same school go ivy or to a top college when your kids end up at a good university but not their top choice.... I've seen his many times....

I can’t make any sense of this incoherent post.

I didn't think you would be capable of understanding. I can explain it to you, but I cannot understand it for you

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Anonymous wrote:And LOL at you all claiming these schools are diverse. They’re as diverse as a box of milk toast with a bag of rice next to it.

And you have experienced a W public school as well as a private school to compare which is more diverse? My child did and the private was more diverse. Just the experience we had with the school he was zoned for and the private he transferred to.

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Anonymous wrote:And LOL at you all claiming these schools are diverse. They’re as diverse as a box of milk toast with a bag of rice next to it.

Which schools are "these schools"? My kid's MCPS high school, in Ganglandia, is diverse by any measure of diversity, except I guess maybe kids from super-rich families are underrepresented.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why would a college accept a kid from a school with very few advanced classes?

Legacy
Money
Sports
Special talents.

The same reasons these kids are accepted at private schools

Ah ok. Got it. So none of them are actually any good at teaching kids anything. Rich people just choose mediocrity for their kids.

We don't need anything more academically. The kids get the advantages in the soft skills and colleges rank them higher because of this.

Huh?

There have been so many studies on this, especially since the college admissions scandle. Just Google "private school advantage in college admissions" or something of that nature. The advantage will never go away (unfortunately). The UC are really good at helping and insulating themselves for centuries if not millenia. The categories for college admissions will change with time, but there will always be a way to give slight advantage to already advantaged folks. It's always been that way.

Remember, women began entering the workforce in droves in the 70s and still are represented at 3% in top jobs, have unequal pay in almost every industry, and still take on the lions share of work at home. White men however still have the advantage in every category.

Why do you think public vs private schools is somehow going to magically escape human psychology and be fair?

I'm from the UMC and slightly pierce into UC circles. Of course, I see the advantages and want my kids to have them. I will likely never be UC, but my kids definitely have a chance. And they do have the mannerisms, peer group, and education to support it.

My Father-in-Law grew up poor and is now pretty wealthy. He has been encouraging us to send our kids to private school (especially high school) because in life, it's truly who you know and not what you know that makes a difference. This is how life works for the most part, whether we like it or not.

+1
All these Feds working in the area are highly educated and smart, yet make no money.
It takes a lot more than education to be wealthy. The wealthy know that.

Lol at “no money”….. you must live in a bubble.

Making 200K a year each is nothing by my standards. Aim higher

DP
I use statistics, similar to what the government does. I think 2 educated working feds are squarely UMC. When one uses stats as cutoffs it doesn't really matter what others "think", because there are defined boundaries.

Perhaps top 1% of net worth for the DC area should be considered. That's over 20 million.

Happy slicing:
https://dqydj.com/income-by-city/
Or
https://dqydj.com/net-worth-percentile-calculator-united-states/

Also many calculators to slice by age, gender, and other demographics.

Upper class is usually defined above 5% or 2.5%, depending on which economist is publishing. Only looking at the top 1% is really myopic. But hey, do what you want and let others do the same. I trust the professionals in this field and normally go with 2.5 or 5 depending on the point I'm trying to make. Top 2.5% in DC is closer to NW of 7M and HHI of 650k.

"Wealthy" is usually defined by top quintile which would include dual Fed households in DC - NW 700k, HHI 225k.

So you can have a very narrowly defined group but it doesn't say anything about the population as a whole. Plus, it's not helpful to hurl insults the way some PPs did - not saying you specifically, but some did. It is helpful to define criteria and categorize appropriately.

At my country club a HHI of 1 to 1.5 million is about average. Same with a 7 to 12 million net worth. I get that may be a bubble. But I like that it pushes me to think bigger and achieve more.

??? Achieve more what? Are you sure you in a country club because this is it the thought process of anyone I know. At a certain net worth, the focus becomes maintenance and doing more for the collective good. I think you need to look inward. No one’s eulogy read, she attained more money.

To achieve more wealth and entrepreneurial success like the ones worth 100 million + at the club. This allows me to have more material wealth, yes. But also results in more taxes being paid and jobs created. Zero guilt.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m an MCPS teacher and graduate of a DMV private school. The two biggest advantages private schools have are smaller class sizes and way less violence. The first time I saw students fighting at school was during my time as a student teacher. It simply didn’t happen at either of the private schools I attended. Students knew that they would be expelled. Conversely, I felt very cheated when my college friends talked about taking shop, or photography, or home economics. The selection of classes is typically a lot smaller in private school. If your child can excel in larger classes and isn’t bothered by fights in the hallway…they’ll probably get a better education in any MCPS school. That being said, my mother worked 2 jobs to pay for my high school tuition, and neither she or I regretted that decision.

Every top private school offers photography and shop. As for home ec, I don’t see how that makes you feel jealous.