NCS consistently ranks below other schools (including both Holton and GDS) in the area

Anonymous
I read this on another thread. Can anyone comment (agree or disagree), and why?
Anonymous
In what way?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:In what way?


That's what I'm trying to figure out. Someone posted regarding the Big Three:

"I disagree (as do the national ratings) that NCS is one of the Big Three. While it certainly is prestigous, and lots of politicians' children attend, the reality is that NCS consistently ranks below other schools (including both Holton and GDS) in the area."
Anonymous
Seems a bit vague.
Anonymous
where did you get such ranking information?
Anonymous
I thought this would be of interest. GDS doesn't even make the list. Holton Arms did the best of all the schools in DC, Sidwell is ranked as is NCS. Thomas Jefferson HS did well . Thats all the DC area schools that made this list. It is a ranking based soley on admission to top 8 universities.

http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/info-COLLEGE0711-sort.html
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I thought this would be of interest. GDS doesn't even make the list. Holton Arms did the best of all the schools in DC, Sidwell is ranked as is NCS. Thomas Jefferson HS did well . Thats all the DC area schools that made this list. It is a ranking based soley on admission to top 8 universities.

http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/info-COLLEGE0711-sort.html


This list takes a stab at defining the top high schools. However, it is biased by the colleges/universities it defines at the top 8: Harvard, Princeton, MIT, Williams, Pomona, Swarthmore, the University of Chicago and Johns Hopkins. The University Chicago Lab School (for example) would never make the list if the University of Chicago weren't listed as one of the top 8. They are part of the same system, and thus Lab School would be a feeder. I'm sure this list would be different if the top 8 schools were all Ivies (for example).
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I thought this would be of interest. GDS doesn't even make the list. Holton Arms did the best of all the schools in DC, Sidwell is ranked as is NCS. Thomas Jefferson HS did well . Thats all the DC area schools that made this list. It is a ranking based soley on admission to top 8 universities.

http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/info-COLLEGE0711-sort.html


This list takes a stab at defining the top high schools. However, it is biased by the colleges/universities it defines at the top 8: Harvard, Princeton, MIT, Williams, Pomona, Swarthmore, the University of Chicago and Johns Hopkins. The University Chicago Lab School (for example) would never make the list if the University of Chicago weren't listed as one of the top 8. They are part of the same system, and thus Lab School would be a feeder. I'm sure this list would be different if the top 8 schools were all Ivies (for example).


How on earth did they arrive at these? Pomona and Williams are utterly different than, say, Harvard or the University of Chicago. Are they trying to include a couple of expensive liberal arts colleges in there? Odd.
Anonymous
I'm pretty sure they were the most difficult to get into.
Anonymous
Just curious as to why Holton's name comes up to rarely on this forum? Is it a worse school, or seen as a worse school then the others? I grew u[p in the area, and had always thought it was a really good school, until coming here and never seeing it mentioned.

Thanks!
Anonymous
It seems to me that you don't see Holton mentioned that much because most posters on this board are looking at Pre-K and K, and thus looking at schools that start earlier. Both Holton and NCS are excellent, top schools. They are definitely different environments, though--NCS is a bit more competitive (probably because of the parents) and Holton is a bit more nurturing. But if you believe in single-sex education. they are both excellent, wonderful schools!
Anonymous
What about St. Alban's? I was surprised that it did not make the list - I thought St. Albans was a big Harvard school.........
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I thought this would be of interest. GDS doesn't even make the list. Holton Arms did the best of all the schools in DC, Sidwell is ranked as is NCS. Thomas Jefferson HS did well . Thats all the DC area schools that made this list. It is a ranking based soley on admission to top 8 universities.

http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/info-COLLEGE0711-sort.html


This list takes a stab at defining the top high schools. However, it is biased by the colleges/universities it defines at the top 8: Harvard, Princeton, MIT, Williams, Pomona, Swarthmore, the University of Chicago and Johns Hopkins. The University Chicago Lab School (for example) would never make the list if the University of Chicago weren't listed as one of the top 8. They are part of the same system, and thus Lab School would be a feeder. I'm sure this list would be different if the top 8 schools were all Ivies (for example).


Totally agree that the list would be different if they chose different schools. Looks like the schools chosen was based on which schools they could get sufficient data from. From the related WSJ article: "For our survey, we chose eight colleges with an average admissions selectivity of 18% and whose accepted applicants had reading and math SAT scores in the 1350-1450 range, according to the College Board: Harvard, Princeton, MIT, Williams, Pomona, Swarthmore, the University of Chicago and Johns Hopkins. Some colleges that would otherwise have met our criteria were excluded from our study because information on their students' high-school alma maters was unavailable." As you noted, having University of Chicago certainly would boost the numbers of their associated Lab School. Also, the presence of six schools in the northeast tends to boost the numbers of schools in New York. Only one school on the west coast (Pomona). Basically, this study is not very meaningful.
Anonymous
Yeah! Sewickley Academy is on the list!
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