Virginia House approves sweeping package of police reforms

[Anonymous]

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Some of the points are Common sense. Other points are intrusive overreach.

Thoughts?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.loudountimes.com/news/virginia-house-approves-sweeping-package-of-police-reforms/article_8c23839b-e405-517f-8f55-d76a37c354df.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=user-share&fbclid=IwAR3HOZCKxKqHuqy-q6zyLVu6-R_1TerL4kUOfzd3NI5E7erOxAYBY2aab40

Some of the points are Common sense. Other points are intrusive overreach.

Thoughts?

Mostly cosmetic. If there’s a violation, there’s no remedy, because Qualified Immunity is still an automatic defense to any claim.

[Anonymous]

I’m a libertarian. I mostly support President Trump , and I generally support police. But I see no problem with looking at rolling back some of qualified immunity scenarios. I’m also very much in favor of getting rid of no-knock raids. Both are too often abused and prone to mistakes.

If a SWAT team serves a no-knock raid on the wrong address (it happens with terrifying frequency BTW), and shoots someone by mistake, qualified immunity then protects those individual officers from the consequences of their mistakes.

That’s unacceptable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m a libertarian. I mostly support President Trump , and I generally support police. But I see no problem with looking at rolling back some of qualified immunity scenarios. I’m also very much in favor of getting rid of no-knock raids. Both are too often abused and prone to mistakes.

If a SWAT team serves a no-knock raid on the wrong address (it happens with terrifying frequency BTW), and shoots someone by mistake, qualified immunity then protects those individual officers from the consequences of their mistakes.

That’s unacceptable.

Are you referring to the Breonna Taylor case?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a libertarian. I mostly support President Trump , and I generally support police. But I see no problem with looking at rolling back some of qualified immunity scenarios. I’m also very much in favor of getting rid of no-knock raids. Both are too often abused and prone to mistakes.

If a SWAT team serves a no-knock raid on the wrong address (it happens with terrifying frequency BTW), and shoots someone by mistake, qualified immunity then protects those individual officers from the consequences of their mistakes.

That’s unacceptable.

Are you referring to the Breonna Taylor case?

He must be. Pretty cut and dry case of poor police work, judicial work, and administration all around. No search warrant should have ever been issued for her appt. and no middle of the night raid and door kick down. Personally the three cops families as well as the judge’s should be marked for single person termination (pick one person from each family) so that they understand fully the gravity of their decisions and mistakes. Short of that, no one will learn their lesson here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a libertarian. I mostly support President Trump , and I generally support police. But I see no problem with looking at rolling back some of qualified immunity scenarios. I’m also very much in favor of getting rid of no-knock raids. Both are too often abused and prone to mistakes.

If a SWAT team serves a no-knock raid on the wrong address (it happens with terrifying frequency BTW), and shoots someone by mistake, qualified immunity then protects those individual officers from the consequences of their mistakes.

That’s unacceptable.

Are you referring to the Breonna Taylor case?

He must be. Pretty cut and dry case of poor police work, judicial work, and administration all around. No search warrant should have ever been issued for her appt. and no middle of the night raid and door kick down. Personally the three cops families as well as the judge’s should be marked for single person termination (pick one person from each family) so that they understand fully the gravity of their decisions and mistakes. Short of that, no one will learn their lesson here.

The only problem is, this wasn’t a “no knock raid” in spite of our lying MSM saying it was.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a libertarian. I mostly support President Trump , and I generally support police. But I see no problem with looking at rolling back some of qualified immunity scenarios. I’m also very much in favor of getting rid of no-knock raids. Both are too often abused and prone to mistakes.

If a SWAT team serves a no-knock raid on the wrong address (it happens with terrifying frequency BTW), and shoots someone by mistake, qualified immunity then protects those individual officers from the consequences of their mistakes.

That’s unacceptable.

Are you referring to the Breonna Taylor case?

Not PP but there are local high profile cases. In MD several years ago, the police came in on a no knock raid and shot the family dogs. A few years later a SWAT team member shot a Fairfax optometrist who was standing around waiting to be arrested for sports gambling.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a libertarian. I mostly support President Trump , and I generally support police. But I see no problem with looking at rolling back some of qualified immunity scenarios. I’m also very much in favor of getting rid of no-knock raids. Both are too often abused and prone to mistakes.

If a SWAT team serves a no-knock raid on the wrong address (it happens with terrifying frequency BTW), and shoots someone by mistake, qualified immunity then protects those individual officers from the consequences of their mistakes.

That’s unacceptable.

Are you referring to the Breonna Taylor case?

Not PP but there are local high profile cases. In MD several years ago, the police came in on a no knock raid and shot the family dogs. A few years later a SWAT team member shot a Fairfax optometrist who was standing around waiting to be arrested for sports gambling.

We can’t comment without all the details. Sorry.

[Anonymous]

Which parts do you think are overreach? All of that seems pretty reasonable to me.

[Anonymous]

Wow, that was a real nothing story. All good new laws. I never like 'hate' crimes, because they are either crimes already or they are not. I don't care what the color of the perpetrators or victims are.