J.O. Wilson and environs...

[Anonymous]

How is J.O. Wilson these days?

And how is the wider neighborhood -- a safe place to live with young children?

[Anonymous]

Neighborhood is tolerable. School has seen a lot of drama related to a principal transition and a bullying teacher. Search the board and you will find it all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Neighborhood is tolerable. School has seen a lot of drama related to a principal transition and a bullying teacher. Search the board and you will find it all.

Bullying teacher is gone, right? Sadly also principal she bullied. All has been quiet for a year there, so maybe the drama is over.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Neighborhood is tolerable. School has seen a lot of drama related to a principal transition and a bullying teacher. Search the board and you will find it all.

Hilarious! Neighborhood is Whole Foods and boutique shops, Union Market and 700-800k starter homes with 1200 sq feet on 3 floors.

[Anonymous]

Thanks for the thoughts. Wild how different the impression from different posters can be. On a different website, my husband asked around and was told "there is a lot of gang and drug deal activity as well as shoot outs in the neighborhood. If your struggling it’s worth the cheap rent just keep to yourself and lay on the ground if your hear shots fired." I know it varies a lot block-by-block, though, and no part of DC is completely crime free.

[Anonymous]

DC crime map (http://crimemap.dc.gov/) can help - along with a walk through the neighborhood, talking to residents, and DCUM feedback - give you a sense.

Searching within 1500 ft of JO Wilson, within the last year there were 37 incidents of violent crime. Doing same search for 30th and O NW (Georgetown) gives 7 incidents, and 8th and East Cap (center of Cap Hill) gives 7 incidents (6 of which were robbery without gun).

So it's neither a crime-ridden hellhole nor just as safe as all other DC neighborhoods.

[Anonymous]

Ha, that area is not cheap rent anymore. Not by a long shot. I work there and the gentrification has been FAST, though there is still enough street crime that I would examine your personal tolerance before committing to the area. It's similar to a lot of gentrifying neighborhoods where people are raising young kids - Petworth near the metro, Columbia Heights, etc.

I have one friend that lives in bounds for J.O. Wilson and she's comfortable sending her child there. Walking past during drop off and pick up times, I see a lot of, ahem, older white kids, so I'd assume there's a critical mass and you wouldn't be the only gentrifier choosing the neighborhood school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ha, that area is not cheap rent anymore. Not by a long shot. I work there and the gentrification has been FAST, though there is still enough street crime that I would examine your personal tolerance before committing to the area. It's similar to a lot of gentrifying neighborhoods where people are raising young kids - Petworth near the metro, Columbia Heights, etc.

I have one friend that lives in bounds for J.O. Wilson and she's comfortable sending her child there. Walking past during drop off and pick up times, I see a lot of, ahem, older white kids, so I'd assume there's a critical mass and you wouldn't be the only gentrifier choosing the neighborhood school.

Gentrification has been fast? I love that if you did't notice it didn't happen.

And to the poster who did a crime search within 1500 feet, please think about that search for a moment. You get almost the exact same results searching for 1500 feet of G street NE. Know why? Because H street NE is a major commercial corridor and therefore crime reports are much higher there.

[Anonymous]

I love that if you did't notice it didn't happen.

What?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ha, that area is not cheap rent anymore. Not by a long shot. I work there and the gentrification has been FAST, though there is still enough street crime that I would examine your personal tolerance before committing to the area. It's similar to a lot of gentrifying neighborhoods where people are raising young kids - Petworth near the metro, Columbia Heights, etc.

I have one friend that lives in bounds for J.O. Wilson and she's comfortable sending her child there. Walking past during drop off and pick up times, I see a lot of, ahem, older white kids, so I'd assume there's a critical mass and you wouldn't be the only gentrifier choosing the neighborhood school.

I disagree, there’s way more petty as well as violent crime in Petworth and CH.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ha, that area is not cheap rent anymore. Not by a long shot. I work there and the gentrification has been FAST, though there is still enough street crime that I would examine your personal tolerance before committing to the area. It's similar to a lot of gentrifying neighborhoods where people are raising young kids - Petworth near the metro, Columbia Heights, etc.

I have one friend that lives in bounds for J.O. Wilson and she's comfortable sending her child there. Walking past during drop off and pick up times, I see a lot of, ahem, older white kids, so I'd assume there's a critical mass and you wouldn't be the only gentrifier choosing the neighborhood school.

Gentrification has been fast? I love that if you did't notice it didn't happen.

And to the poster who did a crime search within 1500 feet, please think about that search for a moment. You get almost the exact same results searching for 1500 feet of G street NE. Know why? Because H street NE is a major commercial corridor and therefore crime reports are much higher there.

I'm that crime search poster - excellent point, and thank you for pointing it out. I live south of H St and had a vague sense that there's still still more crime on the north side, so that reinforced my previous opinion but you're right, that doesn't give much information.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ha, that area is not cheap rent anymore. Not by a long shot. I work there and the gentrification has been FAST, though there is still enough street crime that I would examine your personal tolerance before committing to the area. It's similar to a lot of gentrifying neighborhoods where people are raising young kids - Petworth near the metro, Columbia Heights, etc.

I have one friend that lives in bounds for J.O. Wilson and she's comfortable sending her child there. Walking past during drop off and pick up times, I see a lot of, ahem, older white kids, so I'd assume there's a critical mass and you wouldn't be the only gentrifier choosing the neighborhood school.

Gentrification has been fast? I love that if you did't notice it didn't happen.

And to the poster who did a crime search within 1500 feet, please think about that search for a moment. You get almost the exact same results searching for 1500 feet of G street NE. Know why? Because H street NE is a major commercial corridor and therefore crime reports are much higher there.

This is true, but also: J.O. Wilson is located two blocks off of H Street. So it naturally has more nearby crime than some of the schools on Capitol Hill that are further from a commercial corridor. That's relevant. Also, J.O. Wilson is sandwiched between H Street and Florida Avenue, just generally making it a less safe or desirable neighborhood than those the PP compared it to.

I actually like the neighborhood a lot and know families at JOW, but there was also a daytime homicide at 5th and I, just a block from the school, earlier this month. People should be aware of the actual situation. It's not enough to say "Oh, there's a commercial corridor nearby, that accounts for the crime." It's more than that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ha, that area is not cheap rent anymore. Not by a long shot. I work there and the gentrification has been FAST, though there is still enough street crime that I would examine your personal tolerance before committing to the area. It's similar to a lot of gentrifying neighborhoods where people are raising young kids - Petworth near the metro, Columbia Heights, etc.

I have one friend that lives in bounds for J.O. Wilson and she's comfortable sending her child there. Walking past during drop off and pick up times, I see a lot of, ahem, older white kids, so I'd assume there's a critical mass and you wouldn't be the only gentrifier choosing the neighborhood school.

Gentrification has been fast? I love that if you did't notice it didn't happen.

And to the poster who did a crime search within 1500 feet, please think about that search for a moment. You get almost the exact same results searching for 1500 feet of G street NE. Know why? Because H street NE is a major commercial corridor and therefore crime reports are much higher there.

This is true, but also: J.O. Wilson is located two blocks off of H Street. So it naturally has more nearby crime than some of the schools on Capitol Hill that are further from a commercial corridor. That's relevant. Also, J.O. Wilson is sandwiched between H Street and Florida Avenue, just generally making it a less safe or desirable neighborhood than those the PP compared it to.

Yes and houses are still prohibitively expensive.

I actually like the neighborhood a lot and know families at JOW, but there was also a daytime homicide at 5th and I, just a block from the school, earlier this month. People should be aware of the actual situation. It's not enough to say "Oh, there's a commercial corridor nearby, that accounts for the crime." It's more than that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Thanks for the thoughts. Wild how different the impression from different posters can be. On a different website, my husband asked around and was told "there is a lot of gang and drug deal activity as well as shoot outs in the neighborhood. If your struggling it’s worth the cheap rent just keep to yourself and lay on the ground if your hear shots fired." I know it varies a lot block-by-block, though, and no part of DC is completely crime free.

Lol what website was this? Are they talking about Trinidad? I live just on the other side of H but have been walking around this neighborhood a lot since the pandemic and I’m not sure what block fits that description. There’s only one corner I avoid (too many people loitering on both sides of H Street) otherwise it’s a quiet residential neighborhood.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thanks for the thoughts. Wild how different the impression from different posters can be. On a different website, my husband asked around and was told "there is a lot of gang and drug deal activity as well as shoot outs in the neighborhood. If your struggling it’s worth the cheap rent just keep to yourself and lay on the ground if your hear shots fired." I know it varies a lot block-by-block, though, and no part of DC is completely crime free.

Lol what website was this? Are they talking about Trinidad? I live just on the other side of H but have been walking around this neighborhood a lot since the pandemic and I’m not sure what block fits that description. There’s only one corner I avoid (too many people loitering on both sides of H Street) otherwise it’s a quiet residential neighborhood.

No, it’s probably by JO. Lots of drug deals and prostitution on K St by there.