Nanny pay - which way to think about this

[Anonymous]

We guarantee 50 hours a week and generally use 47, starting at 8AM and staying up until 6pm but letting her go early. We had our first overnight in 5mo so dh and I could take a staycation at a local Airbnb. Our general agreement is $150 for the night + her regular hourly rate for hours kids are awake beyond her usual hours. This week she only worked 44 of her regular hours between 8-6. She also worked 11 hours kids were up outside of 8-6. Should her overtime be 11 hours or 5 hours (plus the flat rate of $150 a night)

She charged the full 11 and I paid it but I feel like it should have only been 5 extra hours. She also asked for a half day next week even though she’s already used all her vacation time and I said sure but will still pay the full $50. It just feels a bit taken advantage of - she accounts for every extra dollar she could get but never gives back. But maybe that’s not a fair expectation

[Anonymous]

I don’t think it’s completely unreasonable that the hours before 8 am or after 6 PM are more. But maybe you should specify next time that you will pay her 50 hours per week rate and then any hours over 50.

On the other hand, I wouldn’t just give her half day off, I pleasantly remind her that she doesn’t have any PTO left and would she like to make that time up on the next overnight, or be unpaid for it.

[Anonymous]

If hours outside of 8-6 are overtime, they should be paid as overtime.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If hours outside of 8-6 are overtime, they should be paid as overtime.

This, if you choose not to use all the hours, that's your choice but if she agrees to work non-typical hours you pay all regardless of the hours worked.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If hours outside of 8-6 are overtime, they should be paid as overtime.

This, if you choose not to use all the hours, that's your choice but if she agrees to work non-typical hours you pay all regardless of the hours worked.

+1. Without question.

That said you can deny to pay her for time off beyond her PTO.

[Anonymous]

11 hours. But, I think you overnight rate is on the high side. I’ve seen $75-$100 for sleep time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:11 hours. But, I think you overnight rate is on the high side. I’ve seen $75-$100 for sleep time.

I’ve never seen that! Our nanny does travel rate for sleepovers. $450 for the full 24 hour period or any part of the last day.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think it’s completely unreasonable that the hours before 8 am or after 6 PM are more. But maybe you should specify next time that you will pay her 50 hours per week rate and then any hours over 50.

On the other hand, I wouldn’t just give her half day off, I pleasantly remind her that she doesn’t have any PTO left and would she like to make that time up on the next overnight, or be unpaid for it.

She will find a new job and you will be trying to find childcare.

[Anonymous]

too complicated to follow, just pay her what she thinks you owe her and keep up a good relationship

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We guarantee 50 hours a week and generally use 47, starting at 8AM and staying up until 6pm but letting her go early. We had our first overnight in 5mo so dh and I could take a staycation at a local Airbnb. Our general agreement is $150 for the night + her regular hourly rate for hours kids are awake beyond her usual hours. This week she only worked 44 of her regular hours between 8-6. She also worked 11 hours kids were up outside of 8-6. Should her overtime be 11 hours or 5 hours (plus the flat rate of $150 a night)

She charged the full 11 and I paid it but I feel like it should have only been 5 extra hours. She also asked for a half day next week even though she’s already used all her vacation time and I said sure but will still pay the full $50. It just feels a bit taken advantage of - she accounts for every extra dollar she could get but never gives back. But maybe that’s not a fair expectation

The 44 hours she worked, was that because you came home and let her go, or because she took leave, such as for a doctor's appointment?

If she is guaranteed to be paid for 8 - 6 every day, then she should be paid for those hours, and anything outside those hours would be overtime.

[Anonymous]

Those are long days and you need her... don’t screw it up over chump change.

[Anonymous]

Are you paying her overtime for the 7 hours she normally works over 40? Because you are legally required to do so.

[Anonymous]

Nanny here. Your nanny is right.

You sound resentful because you're not using the full hours you're paying for and think she should work for free these extra hours. This is not right.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Are you paying her overtime for the 7 hours she normally works over 40? Because you are legally required to do so.

This was my thinking-- overtime is paid for hours over 40, not hours over 50

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are you paying her overtime for the 7 hours she normally works over 40? Because you are legally required to do so.

This was my thinking-- overtime is paid for hours over 40, not hours over 50

This. But why are you guaranteeing 10 hours of OT a week? $6000 a year you aren’t using is a lot of money.