It's (finally) time for reparations. It's time for the US to pay its debt.

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Anonymous wrote:Back to the immigrant argument.

Asian immigrants frequently come to this country with nothing, but the kids go to college because education is a priority.

Why should they pay?

I asked a similar question about 50 pages ago but the moderator felt it should be deleted because he thought the topic was reparations only for black people even though the thread title says no such thing. Let's see what happens to your comment.

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Anonymous wrote:Back to the immigrant argument.

Asian immigrants frequently come to this country with nothing, but the kids go to college because education is a priority.

Why should they pay?

I asked a similar question about 50 pages ago but the moderator felt it should be deleted because he thought the topic was reparations only for black people even though the thread title says no such thing. Let's see what happens to your comment.

The question was asked again several times and the answer always seems to be some variation of, "because they came here."

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Anonymous wrote:^^^ Nobody is going to give you a dime. Even if they did, nothing would change and you would still have a million excuses. Maybe you could learn something from immigrants who came from far more challenging circumstances.

Far more challenging? I'm reading a book called "White Rage" by Carol Anderson, a professor at Emory. She tells a story of a black man who worked for a brutal plantation owner in the 1920s in Valdosta, GA. He beat the men who worked for him. One day, a man fought back and killed him. In retaliation, the white people lynched 20 random black people. Including a man and his wife. The wife was 8 months pregnant. Her name was Mary Tyler. They tied her up and burned her while she was alive. They cut the baby from her and then when it fell to the ground, it cried. A white man talked over and stomped its head.

None of the white mob got tried or went to jail. Learn some history before you come on her talking about circumstances. You don't know sh!t.

Whether you like it not, black people built this country for free. Did immigrants do that? You clearly don't know your history and sound ignorant. It's sad really.

That's a very lovely story and you tell it so well...such enthusiasm.

Fact is you can find similar stories from every race and every nation. It's not unique. You show zero sympathy for the trials and tribulations of your fellow man. Why would you expect or deserve reparations for anything?

But we live in America and this is America's story, not that of another nation. Did other immigrants in America suffer this way for 300 years? Waiting...

You don't get to play that card if you don't recognize that there are all sorts of people in this country who have connections to people who were being raped and tortured long before Columbus sailed the ocean blue. It's not all about what may or may not have happened in the last 400 years. Go back further and further. The problem is with human nature. If you need someone to point the finger at, point it at Eve the original sinner.

Quick to pass the buck and blame a fictional person instead of taking some (collective) responsibility, huh?

Excellent job only focusing on the last sentence and ignoring the rest. BTW, some people believe in GOD.

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Anonymous wrote:I hope this talk of reparations continues on for months.
It will only help Trump.

And this is why the country is f-ed. Too many selfish pricks.

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Anonymous wrote:I hope this talk of reparations continues on for months.
It will only help Trump.

And this is why the country is f-ed. Too many selfish pricks.

You mean the 50% of the people that pay the taxes and subsidize the other 50% are selfish for not wanting to pay more, instead of paying off their own student loans and daycare?

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Anonymous wrote:Back to the immigrant argument.

Asian immigrants frequently come to this country with nothing, but the kids go to college because education is a priority.

Why should they pay?

I asked a similar question about 50 pages ago but the moderator felt it should be deleted because he thought the topic was reparations only for black people even though the thread title says no such thing. Let's see what happens to your comment.

The question was asked again several times and the answer always seems to be some variation of, "because they came here."

So only people who choose to be in America should pay. Native Americans, Asians, Whites and Blacks. Remember, the West African country of Liberia was offered as a home to those displaced by slavery. Those remaining in America are descendants of those who decided that life would be better in the US.

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I don't believe any person or group is entitled to reparations for anything that happened to people in a prior generation under any circumstances, no matter how horrible that was.

And like I've said previously, there is current harm from slavery, Jim Crow, redlining, etc.

Can you please explain why cash is better than directly addressing the systemic causes of wealth gaps with better K-12, college and housing subsidies, universal health care, etc? Assume (because this is reality) that we can’t do both.

It seems like somebody who gets $50k could put it to college, but then the returns to Blacks from a college education is lower than the returns to whites. Plus $50k covers less than half of a good state college, so where does remaining tuition come from?

To buy a house in a better school district, you’d have to save that $50k for decades until it became several hundred thousand dollars. This is because $50k could be a deposit on a house, but it won’t pay the mortgage going forward, especially if this drives up housing prices and mortgage balances. So you need savings of hundreds of thousands of dollars to keep topping up the payments from your low income.

What has that $50k accomplished, then? It hasn’t even helped prepare kids for college (fix failing public schools) or improved healthcare or improved housing choices.

I don’t think it’s better. I think other programs within a comprehensive “reparations” program are a higher priority.

But it’s also important to have a conversation about direct payouts. I’d be happy if Congress would investigate all of the above. That’d be a great first start.

Pp here. I don’t think anybody has tried to answer these questions in 60 pages. Or somebody else’s point about calling something reparations (as the package of reforms I want, or as cash) will give cons an excuse to never address inequality again, because “we paid reparations so we’re done.”

I don’t understand your position. You say we need to have a national discussion about something that’s a lower priority to you. Why? Because you think it will be rejected?

I think we need to have a national conversation about ALL of it. Cash payouts are just one part.

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Anonymous wrote:I hope this talk of reparations continues on for months.
It will only help Trump.

And this is why the country is f-ed. Too many selfish pricks.

You mean the 50% of the people that pay the taxes and subsidize the other 50% are selfish for not wanting to pay more, instead of paying off their own student loans and daycare?

So you went to college and have a job? Good for you.

Selfish pricks don't understand their privilege.

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Anonymous wrote:I hope this talk of reparations continues on for months.
It will only help Trump.

And this is why the country is f-ed. Too many selfish pricks.

You mean the 50% of the people that pay the taxes and subsidize the other 50% are selfish for not wanting to pay more, instead of paying off their own student loans and daycare?

So you went to college and have a job? Good for you.

Selfish pricks don't understand their privilege.

So can you, if you put in the work. You don't even have to pay for it, I'm doing it for you. Pardon me if I can't afford to give you a blank check you can blow at your whim.

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No, it's time to mandate living wages. And create jobs for the working class.

The DNC was wrong to screw Bernie, but it's clear they don't care about the working class, poor, and Blacks.

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Anonymous wrote:I hope this talk of reparations continues on for months.
It will only help Trump.

And this is why the country is f-ed. Too many selfish pricks.

You mean the 50% of the people that pay the taxes and subsidize the other 50% are selfish for not wanting to pay more, instead of paying off their own student loans and daycare?

So you went to college and have a job? Good for you.

Selfish pricks don't understand their privilege.

Sure, why should you educate yourself and seek employment. That's no way to get ahead.

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Anonymous wrote:I hope this talk of reparations continues on for months.
It will only help Trump.

And this is why the country is f-ed. Too many selfish pricks.

You mean the 50% of the people that pay the taxes and subsidize the other 50% are selfish for not wanting to pay more, instead of paying off their own student loans and daycare?

So you went to college and have a job? Good for you.

Selfish pricks don't understand their privilege.

So can you, if you put in the work. You don't even have to pay for it, I'm doing it for you. Pardon me if I can't afford to give you a blank check you can blow at your whim.

The points is that not everyone can. It's not just about "putting in the work". Segregation and systemic racism prevent equal opportunity.

And, as I've said many times, I don't think a blank check is the answer.

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Anonymous wrote:I hope this talk of reparations continues on for months.
It will only help Trump.

And this is why the country is f-ed. Too many selfish pricks.

You mean the 50% of the people that pay the taxes and subsidize the other 50% are selfish for not wanting to pay more, instead of paying off their own student loans and daycare?

So you went to college and have a job? Good for you.

Selfish pricks don't understand their privilege.

So can you, if you put in the work. You don't even have to pay for it, I'm doing it for you. Pardon me if I can't afford to give you a blank check you can blow at your whim.

The points is that not everyone can. It's not just about "putting in the work". Segregation and systemic racism prevent equal opportunity.

And, as I've said many times, I don't think a blank check is the answer.

Nonetheless, if I am willing to give poor people money for school, but not at all willing to send checks to rich people, I am now branded a racist because this is not "reparations" and not "anti-racist."

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Anonymous wrote:Back to the immigrant argument.

Asian immigrants frequently come to this country with nothing, but the kids go to college because education is a priority.

Why should they pay?

No one has he in an answer it this yet...

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Anonymous wrote:Back to the immigrant argument.

Asian immigrants frequently come to this country with nothing, but the kids go to college because education is a priority.

Why should they pay?

No one has he in an answer it this yet...

I posted before, the answer is "because they came here." That's literally the entire answer. If you don't think that's a good answer, that's just because you are racist.
-a fellow racist.