Official 1st Presidential Debate Thread
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Anonymous
| I thought the split screen was great. You could see how the candidates were reacting to the other person's comments. It's not easy to be cool and composed for 90 minutes and still get your points made. |
Anonymous
Yep I was thinking the same |
Anonymous
He also denied any sniffling. No cold or allergies he says, blamed it on a bad mic! This is on fox and friends. He is not doing himself any favors. |
Anonymous
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So his "microphone wasn't working properly". And if he loses the election, it will be because it was "rigged".
It's always someone else's fault, isn't it.... |
Anonymous
| He said the microphone assigned to him was pre-rigged with "sniffle" sound effects? LOL OMG dumbass. |
Anonymous
Taxes are complicated. There are ways that taxes can be deferred but I am not aware of any legal ways to actually avoid paying it. It might sound neat to say that one did not pay any federal taxes in year #### but it doesn't actually mean much beyond a figure - go ask any CPA with corporate tax experience. Most likely, as with other businesses, his company used depreciation and other legal deductions to offset income, but the underlying asset now has basis that will be taxable if it was ever transferred. The tax liability is merely deferred, it does not go away. I thought his response was certainly insensitive. Other business owners may know exactly what he is talking about when he says "that's called being smart", but workers who draw a salary would not understand. A better response would be somewhere along the lines of "I have a duty to my company, family, employees, and etc to take advantage of all tax laws to minimize my tax liability, who willingly pay more taxes than they are legally obligated to pay? That said, the US tax laws are complicated, inefficient and gives rise to the type of accounting contortions that occur not just with my business but tens of thousands of businesses all over the country. My proposal would be to have a simplified tax code, with a lower marginal rate, but also less deductions and special-interest favoritism laws that have been put into the books through out the years by career politicians like Mrs Clinton who bend to the will of their donors". Missed opportunity there. He is on the right side of the issue, and would make the right decision, but said the wrong thing. |
Anonymous
This is textbook narcissism |
Anonymous
Maybe, but a country will fall apart if all of its citizens insist on only following the letter of the law, and not the spirit. If we are all trying to maximize our wants no matter the cost, we will in the end tear our country apart. nobody can write a legal code so prescriptive that it can hold a country together if everybody feels that they have no duty to think about the country when making their decisions, that they only need to think about themselves. |
Anonymous
| I felt like I was watching one of those comedies that rely on cringe-humor, where you want to stop watching, but just can't, and you just keep cringing and hiding your face in shame for the guy speaking. |
Anonymous
| What I don't get is how Trump says his bankruptcies and minimized taxes were "that's business", but companies who are moving jobs and plants to other countries are bad. Guess what? It's also just business for them! |
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He didn't quite say that. He said his microphone was defective and wasn't as loud as Clinton's but maybe it was loud enough to hear breathing. There were no sniffles (according to him). |
Anonymous
I disagree. The tax code is written to advantage people like him. The problem is not with him, it's with the tax code. Fix that, and you have a hell of a lot more money coming into the national coffers. |
Anonymous
Yes unlike Hillary who blames Trump for the Financial melt down. Yet she was basically responsible for it- The Glass-steagall roll back, NY Senator push Wall Street's agenda, protected the same people from prosecution, make sure they received their bonuses, received loads of money from Wall Street (while in office as campaign donations and immediately afterwards with her speeches). She and the financial criss are one and the same. Back to the poor judgement and experience thing. There is nothing in her history that shows she will make the right decision. |
Anonymous
Trump is not articulate and he is not effective at translating realities of international trade into terms that the average American can appreciate. I don't have experience exporting to/from Mexico and Canada, but I know the trade between US and China is not fair and open. Whereas it is relatively easy to export goods from China to the US, the reverse flow is excruciatingly difficult. The tariff rates are high, and Chinese customs makes it very difficult for a shipment to clear customs and be released. We are a US business that has tried for the past three years to sell our products into the Chinese market and has found it very tough to get traction because our products are no longer competitive in terms of pricing and speed to delivery by the time we hop over the great wall of China Customs. On the other hand, I can have a container full of whatever commodity loaded and shipped on a vessel bound for the US in probably 3 days, knowing that US customs will clear it quickly/efficiently as long as all my paperwork is done properly. As a business that sells to international customers, I am all for free and open trade, but it has to be actual free and open bilaterally. All too often, the US holds up their end of the bargain but the other side does not. This happens in international trade and security, with US ending up carrying the bulk of the burden. Enough is enough. |
Anonymous
He's a terrific thinker. Yuuuuge. He has a good brain and the best words. Big league. Believe me. |