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+1 I went on leave before schools closed and went back in June to clean up. Everything was left the exact same way I left it. Even down to the sheets up paper that I left in my trashcan. So yea, there was no "deep cleaning". I packed up my room in plastic containers, lysol'd down my desk and chair, and am hoping for the best when I get to return when the building opens again. I do not have any faith in DCPS providing a safe working environment for me when I return. |
OK, PP how about you take all the kids temp at the door.... WHAT?? suddenly its OK the parents do it ? |
So, PP, why do you think the European schools have all re-opened even those with higher deaths per capita than NY had. DC has had about 520 deaths total and more than 130 of them were over 80 in a Nursing home. Most people who died, got sick in March before everyone was masking up We also have learned a LOT about how to treat covid since high death rates in March/ April: * Remdisivir and Steroids greatly reduce hospital days and well as ICU stay * CPAP can be used instead of vents Nothing is perfect, but this Virus is here to stay, it will always be circling back to us from someone getting off of an airplane and we cannot hide under the covers forever Go ahead if you want to, but kids have their life to live and they deserve an education |
Yeah, I have to agree. I was ready to be outraged until I read the documents. Anyone 65+, with a condition, caring for someone with a condition or sick them selves gets paid leave. Healthy, young teachers without sick dependents need to go to work. This does NOT seem unreasonable to me in any way. |
First of all, please read the studies out that show young children do not transmit. As far as rate of infection in kids goes, here is a link to a European study published in Lancet: www.thelancet.com/journals/lanchi/article/PIIS2352-4642(20)30177-2/fulltext Note, that the 500 or so cases of kids under 18 with covid in Europe are from all countries ( total pop about 300 million ) DC has only about 50,000 kids in DCPS Of the 500 kids ( age 18 or less ) in Europe who got covid , 25 % were immune suppresed or had a high risk medical condition: Results 585 cases of SARS-CoV-2 infection were reported from 77 health-care institutions located in 21 European countries: Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Croatia, Denmark, Estonia, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Ireland, Italy, Lithuania, Norway, Portugal, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Turkey, and the UK (figure 1). Three cases did not meet the inclusion criteria (one 21-year-old individual and two individuals diagnosed with COVID-19 based on serological testing, but PCR negative). Five participating units in the Netherlands, Moldova, Ukraine, and Russia reported not having encountered any cases. |
Not everyone who is 65 or older with a preexisting health condition automatically qualifies for paid leave. Also, young people get sick and die from COVID-19, too. Even if they don’t die, the long-term effects on the organs are detrimental to quality of life and may hinder future employment options. It’s a myth that it only affects older adults. I am in my 30s and three of my friends who are my age, in near perfect health with no preexisting conditions were hospitalized for at least one month due to COVID-19. None have fully “recovered” so far. If teachers are to return buildings, they should be considered essential employees and receive hazard pay and access to childcare. All workers deemed essential should receive hazard pay and access to childcare. |
PP. Excuse me. That should say, “If teachers are to return *to buildings...” |
Of the 500 or so kids 18 and younger who contracted covid ( out of 300 million population in Europe) , there were 4 fatalities:
Four patients, all older than 10 years, had a fatal outcome (CFR 0·69%, 95% CI 0·20–1·82), with death occurring at 3, 9, 11, and 17 days after symptom onset. Two patients had no known pre-existing medical conditions; one had a cardiorespiratory arrest before arrival at the hospital and resuscitation was unsuccessful and the other died while being mechanically ventilated in ICU. The third patient had undergone human stem cell transplant 15 months earlier. The fourth patient was managed palliatively (without intubation), due to the severity of their pre-existing medical conditions. The remaining 578 patients were alive when the study closed. 93 (16%) individuals never developed clinical symptoms. In 460 (80%) individuals, all symptoms had resolved without apparent sequelae, whereas 25 (4%) were still symptomatic or were requiring respiratory support when the study closed. So , if your kid has had recent chemo or is on active immune supressants for bone marrow or organ transplant or has severe lung or cardiac disease , keep them home and they will get DL support. Its the law. |
When I returned to my classroom in late May to clear up my room I also noticed there was no evidence of cleaning at all. As per usual, my carpet was not vacuumed, my sink had the same grime, the floors and walls dirty, the table tops still dusty and marked. The same papers were on the back tables, just as I’d left them. No soap in paper towels in the broken dispensers (haven’t had those in 8 years).
There is no way our school will be deep cleaned daily. That task will be on me. |
I am a specials teacher. If the district is going by the DC Health Guidelines, that means I will not be teaching all the students in my school (500). The guidelines state that groups of students and their teacher will not mix with other teachers or students and that students can not share supplies between themselves or classes. Specialists use books, art supplies and musical instruments.
So I need to know that they will abide by those guidelines before I agree to return. I am happy to play another role as a classroom teacher or support staff; at home or in person. I am trying to be a team player here. |
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Teachers: would hazard pay and access to child care do it? It would be helpful if we had something to advocate for here. That we also want. |
Speaking for myself. I don’t need hazard pay. I want safety protocols to be followed. I was DCPS held accountable for what they claim they are going to do. I want clean classrooms. I want them to provide Clorox wipes and sanitizer. I want them to provide soap in student and teacher bathrooms. I want them to do temp check and actually send people home when they are sick. I want them to follow their own rules. |
If the parents on here are actually DCPS parents then you should know DCPS never follows through on what they say. This alone should outrage you. You should be fighting for DCPS to do what they say they are going to do. Your child’s health (even if just the flu) and education depend on it. You know they start programs and abandon them. This type of stuff should make you fighting mad. |