Maryland Recovery Plan for Education has been posted

[Anonymous]

Schools here are overcrowded and this is the single biggest obstacle to safe reopening of schools.


The corridors are so packed when students switch classes in my kid’s high school that they have been designated one way (same for staircases). I saw them: it’s a massive river of bodies packed together. It’s suffocating even without a mask.

The cafeteria cannot hold all students, and students are encouraged to go out to eat.

Even with masks, even with sanitizer, this is a petri dish situation.


This is not going to work. I don’t have a solution.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly, forcing people to wear masks is probably the easiest to solve. Unfortunately, most of the masks everyone wears are the wrong kind or have cheaper fabric instead of the spun plastic material needed in the interior. I know this might be a low priority to some, but as a teacher I don’t want to risk my life so that you can go back to work. A lot of staff are high risk. No vaccine = no school according to all the federal and state plans.

Genuinely curious, what is the source for that. I’ve Googled but haven’t found anything coming from MD or Federal that states this unequivocally.

Think they would be disastrous for many kids and families - at some point the lack of education and the harm done to the economy is going to outweigh the impact of COVID. If nothing else, the implications of poverty are poor health and increases in comorbidity. And yes, also realize that COVID is a threat too - no easy answers.

Schools are High Risk on the report the MD road to https://governor.maryland.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/MD_Strong.pdf

This doesn’t say that schools won’t open without a vaccine. It says a timeline cannot be fully determined at this stage given ambiguity around vaccines or other “therapeutics”. That is a difference. If the plan was not to open without vaccines, the governor wouldn’t have incrementally extended school closures.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I did a video conference last week in a mask. There were 4 other locations, all with masked people. Everyone heard one another with no problems.

Teachers need to buck up and stop complaining about masks.

Did it last for 7 hours and you were the primary speaker? And even when it wasn’t your turn to speak did you constantly have to ask Bob to stop tapping his pencil, or Mary to focus on her work? Was Nancy constantly out of her seat so you had to ask her 5 times to return to her seat? Was Steve pointing out everyone else who was pulling down their masks to get some air so you had to constantly remind everyone in the conference about proper mask wearing protocol? Did Tom’s parents get a note from his doctor saying that he can’t wear a mask so all of the other participants complain that it’s not fair that they have to wear a mask but Tom doesn’t? Was Robyn obsessed with taking sips from her water bottle as a way to not have to have her mask covering her mouth, but she’s still “technically “ following the mask rule?

Did all of the participants in your video conference have impulse control, or were they 7 year olds who don’t control their impulses? Just curious..

so what is your solution to learning in the fall? Genuinely curious.

Quite honestly, I don’t know. There are so many logistical challenges no matter the option. The alternating schedule is interesting, but raises concerns. I’m thinking about the number of students who are waiting at school way past dismissal on early release days because no one picked them up even though it had been on the calendar months in advance and reminders had been sent home via phone, email and hard copy in the backpack. They sit in the office while phone calls home are made, and phone numbers may or may not be functional. It would be very similar with an alternating schedule. Kids showing up on their unassigned day, or parents sending kids anyway because they missed their assigned day and figured they could just make up the day when they want.

I understand that so many things make sense on paper, but these things that make sense on paper rarely work as planned in schools in reality. We see evidence of that all the time in schools. The decision makers aren’t the ones impacted so they pat themselves on the back for their work but we are the ones left to problem solve in real time when their “makes sense on paper” ideas don’t actually work. Masks are another one of those things. I wish I had the answer but I’m concerned that elementary teachers, staff and students will be put at risk. I hope there are options besides in person learning for elementary teachers and students who are in high risk groups. If a kid can’t wear a mask due to asthma or whatever other condition, then they can’t come to school and need to do distance learning. There are just too many people who require exceptions to the rule, and there’s no point to start in person learning if only a certain number of people will follow the guidelines.

+1,000,000

I don't know what the solution is either. I'm a private school teacher doing the distance learning thing that the parents who post here want (teaching live classes with real grades and real feedback) but my school isn't going to last if we can't find a solution. Believe me, I want to be back in my classroom. But I just don't see a way to do that in a way that doesn't get us shut down with an outbreak multiple times per year.

As for the public system, the US has foisted its social services onto schools for years, as schools are locally funded and our federal government is unwilling and incapable of building a real safety net. And now the bill has come due. I have no idea what we're going to do, but it's going to be bad. Really bad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No specific dates in this education recovery document, but the following article says schools may not resume in-person classes until January 2021.

https://www.eyeonannapolis.net/2020/05/governor-hogans-update-on-covid-19-response-go-boating-and-golfing

The Governor's office has Tweeted that this article is incorrect. There is no date tied to the recovery plan. January 2021 isn't in the plan.

could you post that tweet?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I did a video conference last week in a mask. There were 4 other locations, all with masked people. Everyone heard one another with no problems.

Teachers need to buck up and stop complaining about masks.

Did it last for 7 hours and you were the primary speaker? And even when it wasn’t your turn to speak did you constantly have to ask Bob to stop tapping his pencil, or Mary to focus on her work? Was Nancy constantly out of her seat so you had to ask her 5 times to return to her seat? Was Steve pointing out everyone else who was pulling down their masks to get some air so you had to constantly remind everyone in the conference about proper mask wearing protocol? Did Tom’s parents get a note from his doctor saying that he can’t wear a mask so all of the other participants complain that it’s not fair that they have to wear a mask but Tom doesn’t? Was Robyn obsessed with taking sips from her water bottle as a way to not have to have her mask covering her mouth, but she’s still “technically “ following the mask rule?

Did all of the participants in your video conference have impulse control, or were they 7 year olds who don’t control their impulses? Just curious..

PP, if you as a teacher are speaking as the primary speaker for 7 hours at a stretch, then you're not teaching in MCPS.

(Also, I'm giggling about the 7-year-olds who are named Bob, Mary, Nancy, Steve, Tom, and Robyn.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honestly, forcing people to wear masks is probably the easiest to solve. Unfortunately, most of the masks everyone wears are the wrong kind or have cheaper fabric instead of the spun plastic material needed in the interior. I know this might be a low priority to some, but as a teacher I don’t want to risk my life so that you can go back to work. A lot of staff are high risk. No vaccine = no school according to all the federal and state plans.

Children who's growing bodies need full access to oxygen wearing oxygen restricting masks and breathing their own CO2 for 6 hours?
I would like to see who signed a name under "research" supporting that.

Children are not that fragile. They'll be fine. These arent gas masks.

You are defying biology. Growing body has it rights, it is no "imaginary" fragility. Just as you need to provide healthy emotional and mental environment for a child you need to provide oxygen.

You are welcome to seal yourself in a mask 24/7 but stay away from deciding and imposing what a gowning organisms needs.
Clearly you have NO CONCEPT. therefore keep your expertise to yourself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I did a video conference last week in a mask. There were 4 other locations, all with masked people. Everyone heard one another with no problems.

Teachers need to buck up and stop complaining about masks.

Did it last for 7 hours and you were the primary speaker? And even when it wasn’t your turn to speak did you constantly have to ask Bob to stop tapping his pencil, or Mary to focus on her work? Was Nancy constantly out of her seat so you had to ask her 5 times to return to her seat? Was Steve pointing out everyone else who was pulling down their masks to get some air so you had to constantly remind everyone in the conference about proper mask wearing protocol? Did Tom’s parents get a note from his doctor saying that he can’t wear a mask so all of the other participants complain that it’s not fair that they have to wear a mask but Tom doesn’t? Was Robyn obsessed with taking sips from her water bottle as a way to not have to have her mask covering her mouth, but she’s still “technically “ following the mask rule?

Did all of the participants in your video conference have impulse control, or were they 7 year olds who don’t control their impulses? Just curious..

PP, if you as a teacher are speaking as the primary speaker for 7 hours at a stretch, then you're not teaching in MCPS.

(Also, I'm giggling about the 7-year-olds who are named Bob, Mary, Nancy, Steve, Tom, and Robyn.)

Sock puppet who is set to impose harm on real kids and real parents. Ignore.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honestly, forcing people to wear masks is probably the easiest to solve. Unfortunately, most of the masks everyone wears are the wrong kind or have cheaper fabric instead of the spun plastic material needed in the interior. I know this might be a low priority to some, but as a teacher I don’t want to risk my life so that you can go back to work. A lot of staff are high risk. No vaccine = no school according to all the federal and state plans.

Children who's growing bodies need full access to oxygen wearing oxygen restricting masks and breathing their own CO2 for 6 hours?
I would like to see who signed a name under "research" supporting that.

Children are not that fragile. They'll be fine. These arent gas masks.

You are defying biology. Growing body has it rights, it is no "imaginary" fragility. Just as you need to provide healthy emotional and mental environment for a child you need to provide oxygen.

You are welcome to seal yourself in a mask 24/7 but stay away from deciding and imposing what a gowning organisms needs.
Clearly you have NO CONCEPT. therefore keep your expertise to yourself.

Hoo boy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No specific dates in this education recovery document, but the following article says schools may not resume in-person classes until January 2021.

https://www.eyeonannapolis.net/2020/05/governor-hogans-update-on-covid-19-response-go-boating-and-golfing

The Governor's office has Tweeted that this article is incorrect. There is no date tied to the recovery plan. January 2021 isn't in the plan.

could you post that tweet?

It's from the governor's flack's account:

https://twitter.com/riccimike/status/1258420898937188352

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honestly, forcing people to wear masks is probably the easiest to solve. Unfortunately, most of the masks everyone wears are the wrong kind or have cheaper fabric instead of the spun plastic material needed in the interior. I know this might be a low priority to some, but as a teacher I don’t want to risk my life so that you can go back to work. A lot of staff are high risk. No vaccine = no school according to all the federal and state plans.

Children who's growing bodies need full access to oxygen wearing oxygen restricting masks and breathing their own CO2 for 6 hours?
I would like to see who signed a name under "research" supporting that.

Children are not that fragile. They'll be fine. These arent gas masks.

It's wrong to make children wear masks for more than a very short period of time. They are incredibly unhealthy.

Any peer reviewed journals that actually say this

Yes, peer reviewed, EVERY single parent of every single child knows how it affects the child. This is your peer review, you need a scientist to print in a journal a study on a group of 10 kids that are happy wearing masks to put against every parent who knows how it affects the emotional and physical growth? What's next you need peer review to tell parents how to handle diarrhea?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I did a video conference last week in a mask. There were 4 other locations, all with masked people. Everyone heard one another with no problems.

Teachers need to buck up and stop complaining about masks.

Did it last for 7 hours and you were the primary speaker? And even when it wasn’t your turn to speak did you constantly have to ask Bob to stop tapping his pencil, or Mary to focus on her work? Was Nancy constantly out of her seat so you had to ask her 5 times to return to her seat? Was Steve pointing out everyone else who was pulling down their masks to get some air so you had to constantly remind everyone in the conference about proper mask wearing protocol? Did Tom’s parents get a note from his doctor saying that he can’t wear a mask so all of the other participants complain that it’s not fair that they have to wear a mask but Tom doesn’t? Was Robyn obsessed with taking sips from her water bottle as a way to not have to have her mask covering her mouth, but she’s still “technically “ following the mask rule?

Did all of the participants in your video conference have impulse control, or were they 7 year olds who don’t control their impulses? Just curious..

PP, if you as a teacher are speaking as the primary speaker for 7 hours at a stretch, then you're not teaching in MCPS.

(Also, I'm giggling about the 7-year-olds who are named Bob, Mary, Nancy, Steve, Tom, and Robyn.)

I am giggling about an adult woman giggling. What are you 3?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No specific dates in this education recovery document, but the following article says schools may not resume in-person classes until January 2021.

https://www.eyeonannapolis.net/2020/05/governor-hogans-update-on-covid-19-response-go-boating-and-golfing

The Governor's office has Tweeted that this article is incorrect. There is no date tied to the recovery plan. January 2021 isn't in the plan.

could you post that tweet?

It's from the governor's flack's account:

https://twitter.com/riccimike/status/1258420898937188352

Love it, thanks. Maybe this will dissuade the crazies. Probably not though.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I did a video conference last week in a mask. There were 4 other locations, all with masked people. Everyone heard one another with no problems.

Teachers need to buck up and stop complaining about masks.

Did it last for 7 hours and you were the primary speaker? And even when it wasn’t your turn to speak did you constantly have to ask Bob to stop tapping his pencil, or Mary to focus on her work? Was Nancy constantly out of her seat so you had to ask her 5 times to return to her seat? Was Steve pointing out everyone else who was pulling down their masks to get some air so you had to constantly remind everyone in the conference about proper mask wearing protocol? Did Tom’s parents get a note from his doctor saying that he can’t wear a mask so all of the other participants complain that it’s not fair that they have to wear a mask but Tom doesn’t? Was Robyn obsessed with taking sips from her water bottle as a way to not have to have her mask covering her mouth, but she’s still “technically “ following the mask rule?

Did all of the participants in your video conference have impulse control, or were they 7 year olds who don’t control their impulses? Just curious..

PP, if you as a teacher are speaking as the primary speaker for 7 hours at a stretch, then you're not teaching in MCPS.

(Also, I'm giggling about the 7-year-olds who are named Bob, Mary, Nancy, Steve, Tom, and Robyn.)

I am giggling about an adult woman giggling. What are you 3?

Huh? Adult women giggle. Adult men giggle too.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
So really teachers, quit your whining that you "can't breath in a mask" or "can't teach in a mask". You could learn to do it if you wanted to and wanted to keep your job.

So obnoxious. I love people who think they know what’s its like to talk all day for a job and that they can just say “do it or yer fired” and that this will magically make it so.

-People who have never worn a mask all day long: I can't wear a mask all day long!
-People who have worn a mask all day long: Actually, you can.
-You: So obnoxious! What do those people know about it?

Masks restrict breathing. The health care workers under normal circumstances wear them for short stretches of times with breaks between patients, operation etc.

The masks that restrict breathing are NOT MEANT to be worn for extended periods of time.

They are not meant for peple with heart issues, breathing issues or anxiety etc...

Masks can be and should be worn for short situations like grabbing groceries but otherwise they are not.

If human body was meant to be operating on 1/4 of the oxygen and run on it's own exhaust, it would be designed so.
There is practically NO oxygen in he masks as you breath in your own air that you exhale.

The exhaled air has only 20 percent of oxygen.

This would make many people sick in not time. Do we want that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I did a video conference last week in a mask. There were 4 other locations, all with masked people. Everyone heard one another with no problems.

Teachers need to buck up and stop complaining about masks.

Did it last for 7 hours and you were the primary speaker? And even when it wasn’t your turn to speak did you constantly have to ask Bob to stop tapping his pencil, or Mary to focus on her work? Was Nancy constantly out of her seat so you had to ask her 5 times to return to her seat? Was Steve pointing out everyone else who was pulling down their masks to get some air so you had to constantly remind everyone in the conference about proper mask wearing protocol? Did Tom’s parents get a note from his doctor saying that he can’t wear a mask so all of the other participants complain that it’s not fair that they have to wear a mask but Tom doesn’t? Was Robyn obsessed with taking sips from her water bottle as a way to not have to have her mask covering her mouth, but she’s still “technically “ following the mask rule?

Did all of the participants in your video conference have impulse control, or were they 7 year olds who don’t control their impulses? Just curious..

PP, if you as a teacher are speaking as the primary speaker for 7 hours at a stretch, then you're not teaching in MCPS.

(Also, I'm giggling about the 7-year-olds who are named Bob, Mary, Nancy, Steve, Tom, and Robyn.)

I am giggling about an adult woman giggling. What are you 3?

Huh? Adult women giggle. Adult men giggle too.

Then you either do not call them Adult or you call them Millenials. The giggle per se is reserved for little babies and toddlers.
Anyone outside such age group either does not giggle or calls it something else.