Please be kind & compassionate: 3.0 GPA with tutoring in 3 classes, & 26 ACT with extra time (ADD)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:On what planet is a 3.0 and 26 ACT bad?? Good grief.

OP here. Thanks for your message. I think that those stats are normally fine, but for our DS, he has tutoring in 3 of his 6 classes, and I am pretty sure that his GPA would be lower without the tutoring support. Also, he had extra time on the ACT. I can't be sure, but it seems like that must be helpful, at least for the reading section where you have time to go back to the passage to check your answers.

You keep saying that, as if there aren't tons of kids in this area doing tutoring and getting test accommodations. As others have pointed out, the extra time is just to level the playing field, not give him an advantage. And he can get extra time in college so it's not like he can't use the same strategies he's using now once he gets there.

My DC had around a 3.0, maybe a little lower, but a 31 on the ACT (she was a reasonably good test taker), with accommodations and extra time in school and on standardized tests. She went to a SLAC ranked in the 40-50 range and graduated in 4 years. But it required dropping some classes along the way, and taking some summer classes to catch up. We would have paid for another semester but DC wanted to finish.

A large school can work if your DC is very self motivated and assertive, or is in a smaller program within the school. One of my DCs (with no learning issues) went to a very large school and thrived, but I don't think the kid I described above would have survived there.

[Anonymous]

I also have a family member who sounds very similar who went to High Point and is now a very successful professional. I saw someone else mention high point so just wanted to second that. It's not a big school but I think your son still might find it appealing - http://www.highpoint.edu/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:American University has a great program for kids w LDs and executive functioning challenges and he’d be close to home.

Would love to hear more about this

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:On what planet is a 3.0 and 26 ACT bad?? Good grief.

The AVERAGE American 12th grader has an A average GPA in 2020. Grade inflation is insane. So a low B average is really suspect — especially since we know that’s with parents micromanaging and the luxury of multiple tutors.

Grade inflation is out of control if a student gets an A first quarter and a b the next they get an A for the semester. But in reality it is much lower.

the lowest A is a 89.5 and the lowest B is a 79.5 so that average is an 84.5 which is an A on the transcript but is actually a mid B.

These kids are going to get crushed in the real world.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:On what planet is a 3.0 and 26 ACT bad?? Good grief.

The AVERAGE American 12th grader has an A average GPA in 2020. Grade inflation is insane. So a low B average is really suspect — especially since we know that’s with parents micromanaging and the luxury of multiple tutors.

Grade inflation is out of control if a student gets an A first quarter and a b the next they get an A for the semester. But in reality it is much lower.

the lowest A is a 89.5 and the lowest B is a 79.5 so that average is an 84.5 which is an A on the transcript but is actually a mid B.

These kids are going to get crushed in the real world.

I'd love to know what schools are inflating grades. Too bad my own kid isn't a beneficiary of this practice.

[Anonymous]

It may be hard to tell exactly which high schools from the outside, from the parent perspective. The UCs collected data on this for that report linked upthread somewhere. It's interesting to see the differences in test score ranges vs GPA for the UCs, which are known to weigh GPA heavily; lower test scores compared to other similarly-ranked colleges but with sky-high GPAs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It may be hard to tell exactly which high schools from the outside, from the parent perspective. The UCs collected data on this for that report linked upthread somewhere. It's interesting to see the differences in test score ranges vs GPA for the UCs, which are known to weigh GPA heavily; lower test scores compared to other similarly-ranked colleges but with sky-high GPAs.

As I understand it (and I am no expert whatsoever), each school provides a profile to the colleges. At my DD's independent school, they do not share that profile with the parents. The profile shows how the distribution of grades across the school. So at least the colleges have some insight there.

[Anonymous]

What level of classes is he taking? You realize a 26 is a good ACT score, right? Not everyone is going to get above a 30. Check out the score distribution curve.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:On what planet is a 3.0 and 26 ACT bad?? Good grief.

The AVERAGE American 12th grader has an A average GPA in 2020. Grade inflation is insane. So a low B average is really suspect — especially since we know that’s with parents micromanaging and the luxury of multiple tutors.

Grade inflation is out of control if a student gets an A first quarter and a b the next they get an A for the semester. But in reality it is much lower.

the lowest A is a 89.5 and the lowest B is a 79.5 so that average is an 84.5 which is an A on the transcript but is actually a mid B.

These kids are going to get crushed in the real world.

I'd love to know what schools are inflating grades. Too bad my own kid isn't a beneficiary of this practice.

MCPS.

An A and a B combo (over two semesters) gets reported as an A (for the year), for example.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:On what planet is a 3.0 and 26 ACT bad?? Good grief.

The AVERAGE American 12th grader has an A average GPA in 2020. Grade inflation is insane. So a low B average is really suspect — especially since we know that’s with parents micromanaging and the luxury of multiple tutors.

Grade inflation is out of control if a student gets an A first quarter and a b the next they get an A for the semester. But in reality it is much lower.

the lowest A is a 89.5 and the lowest B is a 79.5 so that average is an 84.5 which is an A on the transcript but is actually a mid B.

These kids are going to get crushed in the real world.

I'd love to know what schools are inflating grades. Too bad my own kid isn't a beneficiary of this practice.

MCPS.

An A and a B combo (over two semesters) gets reported as an A (for the year), for example.

That’s effectively rounding. What would you have the grade be?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:On what planet is a 3.0 and 26 ACT bad?? Good grief.

The AVERAGE American 12th grader has an A average GPA in 2020. Grade inflation is insane. So a low B average is really suspect — especially since we know that’s with parents micromanaging and the luxury of multiple tutors.

Grade inflation is out of control if a student gets an A first quarter and a b the next they get an A for the semester. But in reality it is much lower.

the lowest A is a 89.5 and the lowest B is a 79.5 so that average is an 84.5 which is an A on the transcript but is actually a mid B.

These kids are going to get crushed in the real world.

I'd love to know what schools are inflating grades. Too bad my own kid isn't a beneficiary of this practice.

MCPS.

An A and a B combo (over two semesters) gets reported as an A (for the year), for example.

Whatever it computes to mathematically. So, an 82 and a 96 (or lower) would = a B for the year.

That’s effectively rounding. What would you have the grade be?

[Anonymous]

Whatever it computes to mathematically.

So, an 82 and a 94 for example would = 88...a B for the year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:On what planet is a 3.0 and 26 ACT bad?? Good grief.

The AVERAGE American 12th grader has an A average GPA in 2020. Grade inflation is insane. So a low B average is really suspect — especially since we know that’s with parents micromanaging and the luxury of multiple tutors.

Grade inflation is out of control if a student gets an A first quarter and a b the next they get an A for the semester. But in reality it is much lower.

the lowest A is a 89.5 and the lowest B is a 79.5 so that average is an 84.5 which is an A on the transcript but is actually a mid B.

These kids are going to get crushed in the real world.

I'd love to know what schools are inflating grades. Too bad my own kid isn't a beneficiary of this practice.

MCPS.

An A and a B combo (over two semesters) gets reported as an A (for the year), for example.

No - it's an A and B over two quarters which results in a semester grade. MCPS doesn't report a full year grade for high school, it is two separate semester grades. So if you get an A and a B in two semesters that would average into a 3.5 as part of the GPA (unless weighted of course).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What level of classes is he taking? You realize a 26 is a good ACT score, right? Not everyone is going to get above a 30. Check out the score distribution curve.

THIS ^^^. Only here on DCUM would a 26 not be considered good.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Where are these mythical schools that inflate grades? If anything, my kids' school deflates them at every available opportunity. FCPS high school.

+100
Grade deflation is rampant. It's absurd.