It appears Bolton's book undercuts Trump's defense

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Leakers are treasonable offense

Leaking classified information is a federal offense. Did Bolton put classified information in his book?

Bolton isn't even a government employee. He is writing his personal memoirs. This is equivalent to leaking the plot of a movie on the internet.

There is no indication of classified materials in the book, but by contract, it has to be reviewed, Bolton's attorney requested the rules be followed and only eyes by appropriate NSC staff review the manuscript. Likely the White House violated those rules.

Or maybe the publisher leaked to generate publicity? Also, why should I care if the rough outline of Bolton's book was leaked by the U.S. government? If secrecy was important then the publisher should have had reviewers sign an NDA. Otherwise, they had no obligation. Too bad so sad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Leakers are treasonable offense

Leaking classified information is a federal offense. Did Bolton put classified information in his book?

Bolton isn't even a government employee. He is writing his personal memoirs. This is equivalent to leaking the plot of a movie on the internet.

There is no indication of classified materials in the book, but by contract, it has to be reviewed, Bolton's attorney requested the rules be followed and only eyes by appropriate NSC staff review the manuscript. Likely the White House violated those rules.

So. It isn't government information that was leaked, just the memoirs of a private citizen. The only people that should be concerned are the publishers.

Ugh. Again, read the pre-publication rules that have been posted. A security clearance is a lifelong obligation.

[Anonymous]

Why would the WH leak this?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Or perhaps you can’t read? CIA and DoD guidance has been posted. Both documents discuss a lifelong obligation, which clearly applies to books people fairly regularly write about their careers.

Yes, I am very familiar with these rules. You a moron if you think that you send them a classified document that you will face no repercussions. They will confiscate your computer at least.

Jesus. I never ever said that.

People have been arguing that nothing done on an unclassified system needs to be submitted, which is clearly false.

OF COURSE you wouldn’t submit a classified document. Jeez.

No, you wouldn't do that on purpose. But what if you make a mistake? The entire point of the review is to determine if the document is classified (or otherwise sensitive). I was essentially told, if you do have to pre-pub after you leave, then you 100% cannot be wrong or they will come after you for mishandling classified information.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Or perhaps you can’t read? CIA and DoD guidance has been posted. Both documents discuss a lifelong obligation, which clearly applies to books people fairly regularly write about their careers.

Yes, I am very familiar with these rules. You a moron if you think that you send them a classified document that you will face no repercussions. They will confiscate your computer at least.

Jesus. I never ever said that.

People have been arguing that nothing done on an unclassified system needs to be submitted, which is clearly false.

OF COURSE you wouldn’t submit a classified document. Jeez.

No, you wouldn't do that on purpose. But what if you make a mistake? The entire point of the review is to determine if the document is classified (or otherwise sensitive). I was essentially told, if you do have to pre-pub after you leave, then you 100% cannot be wrong or they will come after you for mishandling classified information.

Yeah of course. That’s the point of it. So you better be careful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Leakers are treasonable offense

Leaking classified information is a federal offense. Did Bolton put classified information in his book?

Bolton isn't even a government employee. He is writing his personal memoirs. This is equivalent to leaking the plot of a movie on the internet.

There is no indication of classified materials in the book, but by contract, it has to be reviewed, Bolton's attorney requested the rules be followed and only eyes by appropriate NSC staff review the manuscript. Likely the White House violated those rules.

So. It isn't government information that was leaked, just the memoirs of a private citizen. The only people that should be concerned are the publishers.

Ugh. Again, read the pre-publication rules that have been posted. A security clearance is a lifelong obligation.

Yes, and Bolton fulfilled his duties in this way. But the lifelong obligation is only one way. The U.S. government doesn't have a legal obligation to protect the personal memoirs of former employees.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Leakers are treasonable offense

Leaking classified information is a federal offense. Did Bolton put classified information in his book?

Bolton isn't even a government employee. He is writing his personal memoirs. This is equivalent to leaking the plot of a movie on the internet.

There is no indication of classified materials in the book, but by contract, it has to be reviewed, Bolton's attorney requested the rules be followed and only eyes by appropriate NSC staff review the manuscript. Likely the White House violated those rules.

So. It isn't government information that was leaked, just the memoirs of a private citizen. The only people that should be concerned are the publishers.

Ugh. Again, read the pre-publication rules that have been posted. A security clearance is a lifelong obligation.

Yes, and Bolton fulfilled his duties in this way. But the lifelong obligation is only one way. The U.S. government doesn't have a legal obligation to protect the personal memoirs of former employees.

No one said they do ...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Or perhaps you can’t read? CIA and DoD guidance has been posted. Both documents discuss a lifelong obligation, which clearly applies to books people fairly regularly write about their careers.

Yes, I am very familiar with these rules. You a moron if you think that you send them a classified document that you will face no repercussions. They will confiscate your computer at least.

Jesus. I never ever said that.

People have been arguing that nothing done on an unclassified system needs to be submitted, which is clearly false.

OF COURSE you wouldn’t submit a classified document. Jeez.

No, you wouldn't do that on purpose. But what if you make a mistake? The entire point of the review is to determine if the document is classified (or otherwise sensitive). I was essentially told, if you do have to pre-pub after you leave, then you 100% cannot be wrong or they will come after you for mishandling classified information.

Yeah of course. That’s the point of it. So you better be careful.

You'd better be careful and not write your resume on an unclass system if you are still an employee.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Or perhaps you can’t read? CIA and DoD guidance has been posted. Both documents discuss a lifelong obligation, which clearly applies to books people fairly regularly write about their careers.

Yes, I am very familiar with these rules. You a moron if you think that you send them a classified document that you will face no repercussions. They will confiscate your computer at least.

Jesus. I never ever said that.

People have been arguing that nothing done on an unclassified system needs to be submitted, which is clearly false.

OF COURSE you wouldn’t submit a classified document. Jeez.

No, you wouldn't do that on purpose. But what if you make a mistake? The entire point of the review is to determine if the document is classified (or otherwise sensitive). I was essentially told, if you do have to pre-pub after you leave, then you 100% cannot be wrong or they will come after you for mishandling classified information.

Yeah of course. That’s the point of it. So you better be careful.

You'd better be careful and not write your resume on an unclass system if you are still an employee.

Yeah, I would never do that.

[Anonymous]

so, there really are some true Americans left in the Republican party!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:so, there really are some true Americans left in the Republican party!!

You have no evidence of this. You people with your endless hope really are suckers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Or perhaps you can’t read? CIA and DoD guidance has been posted. Both documents discuss a lifelong obligation, which clearly applies to books people fairly regularly write about their careers.

Yes, I am very familiar with these rules. You a moron if you think that you send them a classified document that you will face no repercussions. They will confiscate your computer at least.

Jesus. I never ever said that.

People have been arguing that nothing done on an unclassified system needs to be submitted, which is clearly false.

OF COURSE you wouldn’t submit a classified document. Jeez.

No, you wouldn't do that on purpose. But what if you make a mistake? The entire point of the review is to determine if the document is classified (or otherwise sensitive). I was essentially told, if you do have to pre-pub after you leave, then you 100% cannot be wrong or they will come after you for mishandling classified information.

Yeah of course. That’s the point of it. So you better be careful.

You'd better be careful and not write your resume on an unclass system if you are still an employee.

Yeah, I would never do that.

You would five minutes ago, but whatever.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:so, there really are some true Americans left in the Republican party!!

You have no evidence of this. You people with your endless hope really are suckers.

Don't try to bring me down! let me have a moment of hope for our country!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Or perhaps you can’t read? CIA and DoD guidance has been posted. Both documents discuss a lifelong obligation, which clearly applies to books people fairly regularly write about their careers.

Yes, I am very familiar with these rules. You a moron if you think that you send them a classified document that you will face no repercussions. They will confiscate your computer at least.

Jesus. I never ever said that.

People have been arguing that nothing done on an unclassified system needs to be submitted, which is clearly false.

OF COURSE you wouldn’t submit a classified document. Jeez.

No, you wouldn't do that on purpose. But what if you make a mistake? The entire point of the review is to determine if the document is classified (or otherwise sensitive). I was essentially told, if you do have to pre-pub after you leave, then you 100% cannot be wrong or they will come after you for mishandling classified information.

Yeah of course. That’s the point of it. So you better be careful.

You'd better be careful and not write your resume on an unclass system if you are still an employee.

Yeah, I would never do that.

You would five minutes ago, but whatever.

Huh?!

I said that people who are ex employees might have need to do so.

I never said a current employee would do it.

[Anonymous]

JFC
Will you people squabbling over clearance and classified material take it to the jobs forum. You are boring and off topic.