Enough is Enough

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Anonymous wrote:As MCPS staff I’m going to go with whistleblower too. I hope more step up. I know there are plenty who would speak if the press contacted them directly and gave them anonymity.


OP here, I don't know if "MCPS Whistleblower" is a thing, I am just really frustrated with the direction this county has gone and I don't know how much parents know.
If it is a real thing, count me in. I would love to tell the press what I know. And so would about half of the teachers I work with.
Teachers are fed up.
The county got rid of suspensions a while back because there were a disproportionate amount of black and Latino students suspended and those students, who were already not performing as well as their white and Asian counterparts, were missing a ton of instructional time. The problem is, teenagers aren't dumb. They recognized pretty quickly that there are no consequences for their actions (not just fighting, but also insubordination, bullying, cursing out teachers, absences). This has lead to a slow trickle of behaviors becoming accepted, and those behaviors will continue to be allowed until something BIG happens.
So we are being trained on how to take down an assailant, meanwhile, students in our classrooms are our biggest threat.


Okay, what's the Teacher's Union's position on this? Also, what is preventing teachers from calling the cops? I know for sure if some kid became violent in my classroom, I would call the cops. It is within your rights to call the cops if you feel like your safety or a student's safety is in danger. I would say that it's your obligation to call. Who cares what the principal or what the school WANTS you to do.
A teacher calling the cops would effectively end her teaching career with mcps. I know teachers who’ve been attached by students and witnessed their students being attacked. The police are never called for these assaults because teachers need their jobs.


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Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As MCPS staff I’m going to go with whistleblower too. I hope more step up. I know there are plenty who would speak if the press contacted them directly and gave them anonymity.


OP here, I don't know if "MCPS Whistleblower" is a thing, I am just really frustrated with the direction this county has gone and I don't know how much parents know.
If it is a real thing, count me in. I would love to tell the press what I know. And so would about half of the teachers I work with.
Teachers are fed up.
The county got rid of suspensions a while back because there were a disproportionate amount of black and Latino students suspended and those students, who were already not performing as well as their white and Asian counterparts, were missing a ton of instructional time. The problem is, teenagers aren't dumb. They recognized pretty quickly that there are no consequences for their actions (not just fighting, but also insubordination, bullying, cursing out teachers, absences). This has lead to a slow trickle of behaviors becoming accepted, and those behaviors will continue to be allowed until something BIG happens.
So we are being trained on how to take down an assailant, meanwhile, students in our classrooms are our biggest threat.


Okay, what's the Teacher's Union's position on this? Also, what is preventing teachers from calling the cops? I know for sure if some kid became violent in my classroom, I would call the cops. It is within your rights to call the cops if you feel like your safety or a student's safety is in danger. I would say that it's your obligation to call. Who cares what the principal or what the school WANTS you to do.
A teacher calling the cops would effectively end her teaching career with mcps. I know teachers who’ve been attached by students and witnessed their students being attacked. The police are never called for these assaults because teachers need their jobs.


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This doesn't make sense. A teacher has every right to call the police, just like anyone else. If she's fired as a result of that action, she would (and should) sue.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As MCPS staff I’m going to go with whistleblower too. I hope more step up. I know there are plenty who would speak if the press contacted them directly and gave them anonymity.


OP here, I don't know if "MCPS Whistleblower" is a thing, I am just really frustrated with the direction this county has gone and I don't know how much parents know.
If it is a real thing, count me in. I would love to tell the press what I know. And so would about half of the teachers I work with.
Teachers are fed up.
The county got rid of suspensions a while back because there were a disproportionate amount of black and Latino students suspended and those students, who were already not performing as well as their white and Asian counterparts, were missing a ton of instructional time. The problem is, teenagers aren't dumb. They recognized pretty quickly that there are no consequences for their actions (not just fighting, but also insubordination, bullying, cursing out teachers, absences). This has lead to a slow trickle of behaviors becoming accepted, and those behaviors will continue to be allowed until something BIG happens.
So we are being trained on how to take down an assailant, meanwhile, students in our classrooms are our biggest threat.


Okay, what's the Teacher's Union's position on this? Also, what is preventing teachers from calling the cops? I know for sure if some kid became violent in my classroom, I would call the cops. It is within your rights to call the cops if you feel like your safety or a student's safety is in danger. I would say that it's your obligation to call. Who cares what the principal or what the school WANTS you to do.
A teacher calling the cops would effectively end her teaching career with mcps. I know teachers who’ve been attached by students and witnessed their students being attacked. The police are never called for these assaults because teachers need their jobs.


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This doesn't make sense. A teacher has every right to call the police, just like anyone else. If she's fired as a result of that action, she would (and should) sue.


Teachers don’t realize they have more power than they think. They’re effectively neutered, as are principals.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As MCPS staff I’m going to go with whistleblower too. I hope more step up. I know there are plenty who would speak if the press contacted them directly and gave them anonymity.


OP here, I don't know if "MCPS Whistleblower" is a thing, I am just really frustrated with the direction this county has gone and I don't know how much parents know.
If it is a real thing, count me in. I would love to tell the press what I know. And so would about half of the teachers I work with.
Teachers are fed up.
The county got rid of suspensions a while back because there were a disproportionate amount of black and Latino students suspended and those students, who were already not performing as well as their white and Asian counterparts, were missing a ton of instructional time. The problem is, teenagers aren't dumb. They recognized pretty quickly that there are no consequences for their actions (not just fighting, but also insubordination, bullying, cursing out teachers, absences). This has lead to a slow trickle of behaviors becoming accepted, and those behaviors will continue to be allowed until something BIG happens.
So we are being trained on how to take down an assailant, meanwhile, students in our classrooms are our biggest threat.


Okay, what's the Teacher's Union's position on this? Also, what is preventing teachers from calling the cops? I know for sure if some kid became violent in my classroom, I would call the cops. It is within your rights to call the cops if you feel like your safety or a student's safety is in danger. I would say that it's your obligation to call. Who cares what the principal or what the school WANTS you to do.
A teacher calling the cops would effectively end her teaching career with mcps. I know teachers who’ve been attached by students and witnessed their students being attacked. The police are never called for these assaults because teachers need their jobs.


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This doesn't make sense. A teacher has every right to call the police, just like anyone else. If she's fired as a result of that action, she would (and should) sue.


Teachers don’t realize they have more power than they think. They’re effectively neutered, as are principals.


Then it sounds like they need to be educated on what rights they have to protect themselves in their schools. What the heck is the Teachers Union doing?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:We have a kid at our ES (yes, ES!) who has assaulted several students. Not one single day of suspension. Not one.

I have already said that if he comes after my kid, I am calling the police. Do not trust MCPS to handle it at all.


x a million.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As MCPS staff I’m going to go with whistleblower too. I hope more step up. I know there are plenty who would speak if the press contacted them directly and gave them anonymity.


OP here, I don't know if "MCPS Whistleblower" is a thing, I am just really frustrated with the direction this county has gone and I don't know how much parents know.
If it is a real thing, count me in. I would love to tell the press what I know. And so would about half of the teachers I work with.
Teachers are fed up.
The county got rid of suspensions a while back because there were a disproportionate amount of black and Latino students suspended and those students, who were already not performing as well as their white and Asian counterparts, were missing a ton of instructional time. The problem is, teenagers aren't dumb. They recognized pretty quickly that there are no consequences for their actions (not just fighting, but also insubordination, bullying, cursing out teachers, absences). This has lead to a slow trickle of behaviors becoming accepted, and those behaviors will continue to be allowed until something BIG happens.
So we are being trained on how to take down an assailant, meanwhile, students in our classrooms are our biggest threat.


Okay, what's the Teacher's Union's position on this? Also, what is preventing teachers from calling the cops? I know for sure if some kid became violent in my classroom, I would call the cops. It is within your rights to call the cops if you feel like your safety or a student's safety is in danger. I would say that it's your obligation to call. Who cares what the principal or what the school WANTS you to do.
A teacher calling the cops would effectively end her teaching career with mcps. I know teachers who’ve been attached by students and witnessed their students being attacked. The police are never called for these assaults because teachers need their jobs.


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This doesn't make sense. A teacher has every right to call the police, just like anyone else. If she's fired as a result of that action, she would (and should) sue.


Teachers don’t realize they have more power than they think. They’re effectively neutered, as are principals.


Then it sounds like they need to be educated on what rights they have to protect themselves in their schools. What the heck is the Teachers Union doing?


This is a joke, right?

The Union is always busy defending the sexual abusers, supporting the Dem of the month and marching for translalala rights.

They havery no time to engage in something as minor as this.
Anonymous
RM had another fight today
Anonymous
https://wjla.com/news/local/damascus-teens-humiliating-photo-autism

Are we adding this to the list? This young man had his picture taken in the restroom and posted online by a JV football player. It was posted in the Damascus thread.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:https://wjla.com/news/local/damascus-teens-humiliating-photo-autism

Are we adding this to the list? This young man had his picture taken in the restroom and posted online by a JV football player. It was posted in the Damascus thread.


This is so sad!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As MCPS staff I’m going to go with whistleblower too. I hope more step up. I know there are plenty who would speak if the press contacted them directly and gave them anonymity.


OP here, I don't know if "MCPS Whistleblower" is a thing, I am just really frustrated with the direction this county has gone and I don't know how much parents know.
If it is a real thing, count me in. I would love to tell the press what I know. And so would about half of the teachers I work with.
Teachers are fed up.
The county got rid of suspensions a while back because there were a disproportionate amount of black and Latino students suspended and those students, who were already not performing as well as their white and Asian counterparts, were missing a ton of instructional time. The problem is, teenagers aren't dumb. They recognized pretty quickly that there are no consequences for their actions (not just fighting, but also insubordination, bullying, cursing out teachers, absences). This has lead to a slow trickle of behaviors becoming accepted, and those behaviors will continue to be allowed until something BIG happens.
So we are being trained on how to take down an assailant, meanwhile, students in our classrooms are our biggest threat.


Okay, what's the Teacher's Union's position on this? Also, what is preventing teachers from calling the cops? I know for sure if some kid became violent in my classroom, I would call the cops. It is within your rights to call the cops if you feel like your safety or a student's safety is in danger. I would say that it's your obligation to call. Who cares what the principal or what the school WANTS you to do.
A teacher calling the cops would effectively end her teaching career with mcps. I know teachers who’ve been attached by students and witnessed their students being attacked. The police are never called for these assaults because teachers need their jobs.


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This doesn't make sense. A teacher has every right to call the police, just like anyone else. If she's fired as a result of that action, she would (and should) sue.


Teachers don’t realize they have more power than they think. They’re effectively neutered, as are principals.


Then it sounds like they need to be educated on what rights they have to protect themselves in their schools. What the heck is the Teachers Union doing?


Are you kidding? Are you actually in mCPS?

The Teachers Union is marking sure the teachers who abuse kids are protected. Or moved around from school to school.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:https://wjla.com/news/local/damascus-teens-humiliating-photo-autism

Are we adding this to the list? This young man had his picture taken in the restroom and posted online by a JV football player. It was posted in the Damascus thread.


This is so sad!


I agree. Made even more sad by the fact that it is highly unlikely that there will be real consequences for the JV football players who did this.
Anonymous
Montgomery county is such a wonderful diverse place to live yeah immigration!!!
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Anonymous wrote:Bullet, one bullet.


ONE bullet is too many! I have a kid at Sherwood and received the letter from the principal explaining the incident. “Just one” bullet doesn’t make me feel much better. We also heard about the adult that was attacked by a group of students. This information wasn’t shared by the principal, but rather the students. A friend’s kid witnessed it. FWIW, the students involved are residents of a halfway house (some with ankle bracelets) and according to my kid “look like they’re about 20 years old”...


It's Our House.
I used to tutor the residents there for their GED. In my experience there, the boys were actually pretty great (all things considered), except for one I was deathly afraid of and another who had "anger issues" I heard about, but never experienced.

Our House kids have been arrested and charged with a (usually nonviolent) crime. Most are from Baltimore. Very few are from MoCo. Their lawyer usually has a choice of jail or the Our House program. Students usually work on site (a farm) during the day, then get tutored at night. During my time there (about four years ago - for a year), I never heard of a resident attending a local HS. Not sure what changed. Residents were only allowed to leave for medical appointments and visitation IF they earned it. However, several escaped because there was no way to keep them there. The rule was, if you escaped and were caught, you were immediately sent to jail. Those who did runaway in my tenure there didn't come back.

At one point I remember a "kid" telling me he had been selling drugs on Balitmore streets since he was four years old! And he didn't know any other way to live. He couldn't read or write. He was one of the runaways (he was found hitchhiking on 108) and didn't come back.

If Our House kids are attending Sherwood, that would surprise me. They are not ready to be in a general school environment. I am all for giving second chances, but they should be receiving tutoring at the facility and not in a public classroom.


Our house has a pretty good reputation in the community. I did not realize the kids attended Sherwood. Is that verified or still speculation? OP, at least regarding Sherwood you might want to consider the greater only news. They are a small local and legit newspaper and since it affects their readership base they might be willing to look into this.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://wjla.com/news/local/damascus-teens-humiliating-photo-autism

Are we adding this to the list? This young man had his picture taken in the restroom and posted online by a JV football player. It was posted in the Damascus thread.


This is so sad!


This is what I am talking about. Notice this quote:
"Salvador explains that after some prodding[u], Damascus administrators provided her with formal documentation of the incident. The doublesided "Bullying, Harassment, Or Intimidating Reporting Form" included marked checkboxes indicating "cyber bullying" that was "demeaning" and stemmed from the student's "disability."

Why did it take 'Prodding' to get information ABOUT HER OWN SON?!?!?!

The schools cover up so much. That is why the public doesn't know half of the story. It is disgusting.
Anonymous
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