Should special ed be for students with behavioral issues?

[Anonymous]

I do think how special ed is employed depends on what state the school is in. In DC, special education is generally reserved for those who need it, but there are states where the more special ed students there are, the more money the schools get for all students. And there are states where schools stack students whom they don’t view as potential high achievers in special ed so their common core test scores won’t be counted. And there are states where a disproportionate number of special ed students are children of color. So yes, there are absolutely situations in which special ed is misused. This is pretty generally acknowledged by now.

[Anonymous]

Yeah, it's cute that OP thinks private school will be a solution. Unless it's a school that specifically caters to kids with behavioral issues, they are going to look at his record and give him a hard pass. Or he'll get in, but get counseled out in a year or two. Private schools don't have to deal with this stuff, and they often choose not to.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I do think how special ed is employed depends on what state the school is in. In DC, special education is generally reserved for those who need it, but there are states where the more special ed students there are, the more money the schools get for all students. And there are states where schools stack students whom they don’t view as potential high achievers in special ed so their common core test scores won’t be counted. And there are states where a disproportionate number of special ed students are children of color. So yes, there are absolutely situations in which special ed is misused. This is pretty generally acknowledged by now.

+1. Exactly. I wonder how things work in Virginia, esp the poorer parts.

[Anonymous]

NP, in a similar but opposite situation. School is saying absolutely no IEP for behavior because the child is on grade level. Is a danger to himself and others, daily classroom disruptions, doesn't do any work in the classroom. Admin says 504 is the best they can do. Any thoughts or advice?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NP, in a similar but opposite situation. School is saying absolutely no IEP for behavior because the child is on grade level. Is a danger to himself and others, daily classroom disruptions, doesn't do any work in the classroom. Admin says 504 is the best they can do. Any thoughts or advice?

Whoop his ass! Kidding....sort of

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NP, in a similar but opposite situation. School is saying absolutely no IEP for behavior because the child is on grade level. Is a danger to himself and others, daily classroom disruptions, doesn't do any work in the classroom. Admin says 504 is the best they can do. Any thoughts or advice?

You need testing to show if there is a disability. You can write administration and state that you are requesting an IEP meeting to discuss a suspected disability. You then need to convince them that the suspected disability is impacting his education (an advocate can be a great resource at this meeting).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NP, in a similar but opposite situation. School is saying absolutely no IEP for behavior because the child is on grade level. Is a danger to himself and others, daily classroom disruptions, doesn't do any work in the classroom. Admin says 504 is the best they can do. Any thoughts or advice?

I'm in MCPS. You could be describing my child. Our principal was the primary champion of my son's IEP.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:NP, in a similar but opposite situation. School is saying absolutely no IEP for behavior because the child is on grade level. Is a danger to himself and others, daily classroom disruptions, doesn't do any work in the classroom. Admin says 504 is the best they can do. Any thoughts or advice?

You need testing to show if there is a disability. You can write administration and state that you are requesting an IEP meeting to discuss a suspected disability. You then need to convince them that the suspected disability is impacting his education (an advocate can be a great resource at this meeting).

Child has multiple diagnoses but until this year has been on grade level. School won't do testing because there is no impediment to accessing the curriculum. I feel like the child is stuck in a bureaucratic black hole. I can't figure out a path out.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:NP, in a similar but opposite situation. School is saying absolutely no IEP for behavior because the child is on grade level. Is a danger to himself and others, daily classroom disruptions, doesn't do any work in the classroom. Admin says 504 is the best they can do. Any thoughts or advice?

You need testing to show if there is a disability. You can write administration and state that you are requesting an IEP meeting to discuss a suspected disability. You then need to convince them that the suspected disability is impacting his education (an advocate can be a great resource at this meeting).

Child has multiple diagnoses but until this year has been on grade level. School won't do testing because there is no impediment to accessing the curriculum. I feel like the child is stuck in a bureaucratic black hole. I can't figure out a path out.

Meant to add mental health diagnoses.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:NP, in a similar but opposite situation. School is saying absolutely no IEP for behavior because the child is on grade level. Is a danger to himself and others, daily classroom disruptions, doesn't do any work in the classroom. Admin says 504 is the best they can do. Any thoughts or advice?

You need testing to show if there is a disability. You can write administration and state that you are requesting an IEP meeting to discuss a suspected disability. You then need to convince them that the suspected disability is impacting his education (an advocate can be a great resource at this meeting).

Child has multiple diagnoses but until this year has been on grade level. School won't do testing because there is no impediment to accessing the curriculum. I feel like the child is stuck in a bureaucratic black hole. I can't figure out a path out.

Are the behaviors related to the multiple diagnoses? How has he been demonstrating that he is accessing the curriculum?

[Anonymous]

Yeah so this is a violation of IDEA. If the child has a diagnosis there should be an opportunity for an IEP for OHI. Have you asked for an FBA?

I’m really sick of seeing children who have diagnosed (and undiagnosed but obvious) challenges chalked up as behavior problems. That’s lazy and in most cases just wrong.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:NP, in a similar but opposite situation. School is saying absolutely no IEP for behavior because the child is on grade level. Is a danger to himself and others, daily classroom disruptions, doesn't do any work in the classroom. Admin says 504 is the best they can do. Any thoughts or advice?

You need testing to show if there is a disability. You can write administration and state that you are requesting an IEP meeting to discuss a suspected disability. You then need to convince them that the suspected disability is impacting his education (an advocate can be a great resource at this meeting).

Child has multiple diagnoses but until this year has been on grade level. School won't do testing because there is no impediment to accessing the curriculum. I feel like the child is stuck in a bureaucratic black hole. I can't figure out a path out.

Are the behaviors related to the multiple diagnoses? How has he been demonstrating that he is accessing the curriculum?

Unsure how curriculum has been accessed in the past. Behaviors have apparently escalated this school year.

An FBA was brought up but it was unclear whether the school will do one. Is that the best path forward? I've never seen this much resistance to an IEP or anything that would actually be helpful.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:NP, in a similar but opposite situation. School is saying absolutely no IEP for behavior because the child is on grade level. Is a danger to himself and others, daily classroom disruptions, doesn't do any work in the classroom. Admin says 504 is the best they can do. Any thoughts or advice?

You need testing to show if there is a disability. You can write administration and state that you are requesting an IEP meeting to discuss a suspected disability. You then need to convince them that the suspected disability is impacting his education (an advocate can be a great resource at this meeting).

Child has multiple diagnoses but until this year has been on grade level. School won't do testing because there is no impediment to accessing the curriculum. I feel like the child is stuck in a bureaucratic black hole. I can't figure out a path out.

Are the behaviors related to the multiple diagnoses? How has he been demonstrating that he is accessing the curriculum?

And yes, behaviors are related to diagnoses. ADHD, ODD, mood disorder, etc.

[Anonymous]

If the child is not doing any work, then the child is not accessing the curriculum. Ask the homeroom teacher to assess your child on only completed work and then return that data to the administration.

Do not help child complete any work at home. Do not pick up your child if there is a behavior.

[Anonymous]

Also, you do not need any academic goals with an ED code- meaning your child can have only behavioral goals which is what it sounds like your child needs. If you have an OHI code, you do need academic goals.