Asking how your kid compares to classmates

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No UMC parent would have their kid in DCPS unless there is differentiation and a significant cohort of advanced students

It's time to pull back the curtain and let people know what is really going on

And yes its true if your kid is high performing they are generally going to be ignored in favor or focusing on lower kids to close the achievement gap. Focusing on higher performing kids makes the achievement gap worse.

This is why UMC of ALL RACES continue to bail on DCPS

Well I am bailing from private because they don’t do enough differentiation. Teacher told me to go public! Hence why I am on this board. I don’t think UMC parents understand that privates schools are not gifted schools. Privates are rich people school who give financial aid in the name of diversity.

lol well put.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No UMC parent would have their kid in DCPS unless there is differentiation and a significant cohort of advanced students

It's time to pull back the curtain and let people know what is really going on

And yes its true if your kid is high performing they are generally going to be ignored in favor or focusing on lower kids to close the achievement gap. Focusing on higher performing kids makes the achievement gap worse.

This is why UMC of ALL RACES continue to bail on DCPS

Well I am bailing from private because they don’t do enough differentiation. Teacher told me to go public! Hence why I am on this board. I don’t think UMC parents understand that privates schools are not gifted schools. Privates are rich people school who give financial aid in the name of diversity.

lol well put.

it's why people go to the suburbs where there is actual cohorts of high performers in public schools

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No UMC parent would have their kid in DCPS unless there is differentiation and a significant cohort of advanced students

It's time to pull back the curtain and let people know what is really going on

And yes its true if your kid is high performing they are generally going to be ignored in favor or focusing on lower kids to close the achievement gap. Focusing on higher performing kids makes the achievement gap worse.

This is why UMC of ALL RACES continue to bail on DCPS

Well I am bailing from private because they don’t do enough differentiation. Teacher told me to go public! Hence why I am on this board. I don’t think UMC parents understand that privates schools are not gifted schools. Privates are rich people school who give financial aid in the name of diversity.

lol well put.

it's why people go to the suburbs where there is actual cohorts of high performers in public schools

There are high performers in DCPS too! Like people in the suburbs see DC as rich smart white kids in privates and dumb poor minority kids in failing public schools, that really isn’t the DCPS I see. Please recognize your view is a false stereotype.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No UMC parent would have their kid in DCPS unless there is differentiation and a significant cohort of advanced students

It's time to pull back the curtain and let people know what is really going on

And yes its true if your kid is high performing they are generally going to be ignored in favor or focusing on lower kids to close the achievement gap. Focusing on higher performing kids makes the achievement gap worse.

This is why UMC of ALL RACES continue to bail on DCPS

Well I am bailing from private because they don’t do enough differentiation. Teacher told me to go public! Hence why I am on this board. I don’t think UMC parents understand that privates schools are not gifted schools. Privates are rich people school who give financial aid in the name of diversity.

lol well put.

it's why people go to the suburbs where there is actual cohorts of high performers in public schools

There are high performers in DCPS too! Like people in the suburbs see DC as rich smart white kids in privates and dumb poor minority kids in failing public schools, that really isn’t the DCPS I see. Please recognize your view is a false stereotype.

Sorry that's the reality except for the Wilson pyramid. After elementary school 90% of DCPS is low income.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No UMC parent would have their kid in DCPS unless there is differentiation and a significant cohort of advanced students

It's time to pull back the curtain and let people know what is really going on

And yes its true if your kid is high performing they are generally going to be ignored in favor or focusing on lower kids to close the achievement gap. Focusing on higher performing kids makes the achievement gap worse.

This is why UMC of ALL RACES continue to bail on DCPS

Well I am bailing from private because they don’t do enough differentiation. Teacher told me to go public! Hence why I am on this board. I don’t think UMC parents understand that privates schools are not gifted schools. Privates are rich people school who give financial aid in the name of diversity.

lol well put.

it's why people go to the suburbs where there is actual cohorts of high performers in public schools

There are high performers in DCPS too! Like people in the suburbs see DC as rich smart white kids in privates and dumb poor minority kids in failing public schools, that really isn’t the DCPS I see. Please recognize your view is a false stereotype.

Sorry that's the reality except for the Wilson pyramid. After elementary school 90% of DCPS is low income.

because low-income = dumb and unmotivated?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No UMC parent would have their kid in DCPS unless there is differentiation and a significant cohort of advanced students

It's time to pull back the curtain and let people know what is really going on

And yes its true if your kid is high performing they are generally going to be ignored in favor or focusing on lower kids to close the achievement gap. Focusing on higher performing kids makes the achievement gap worse.

This is why UMC of ALL RACES continue to bail on DCPS

Well I am bailing from private because they don’t do enough differentiation. Teacher told me to go public! Hence why I am on this board. I don’t think UMC parents understand that privates schools are not gifted schools. Privates are rich people school who give financial aid in the name of diversity.

lol well put.

it's why people go to the suburbs where there is actual cohorts of high performers in public schools

There are high performers in DCPS too! Like people in the suburbs see DC as rich smart white kids in privates and dumb poor minority kids in failing public schools, that really isn’t the DCPS I see. Please recognize your view is a false stereotype.

Sorry that's the reality except for the Wilson pyramid. After elementary school 90% of DCPS is low income.

because low-income = dumb and unmotivated?

and high income = advanced.

The truth is more complicated. There are reasons low income schools struggle, but the idea that your high ses child will need a cohort of advanced kids will likely not pan out. There is a 75% chance your child will be at the middle of the pack or below and a 25% chance your child would benefit from a school that put a lot of emphasis on remediation. Read the teens forum. Where did all these "advanced" pkers and early elementary kids go?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No UMC parent would have their kid in DCPS unless there is differentiation and a significant cohort of advanced students

It's time to pull back the curtain and let people know what is really going on

And yes its true if your kid is high performing they are generally going to be ignored in favor or focusing on lower kids to close the achievement gap. Focusing on higher performing kids makes the achievement gap worse.

This is why UMC of ALL RACES continue to bail on DCPS

Well I am bailing from private because they don’t do enough differentiation. Teacher told me to go public! Hence why I am on this board. I don’t think UMC parents understand that privates schools are not gifted schools. Privates are rich people school who give financial aid in the name of diversity.

lol well put.

it's why people go to the suburbs where there is actual cohorts of high performers in public schools

There are high performers in DCPS too! Like people in the suburbs see DC as rich smart white kids in privates and dumb poor minority kids in failing public schools, that really isn’t the DCPS I see. Please recognize your view is a false stereotype.

Sorry that's the reality except for the Wilson pyramid. After elementary school 90% of DCPS is low income.

because low-income = dumb and unmotivated?

Sigh...so frustrating. The only dumb, unmotivated people are the ones posting here who cling to alt right understandings of IQ, race, and income.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No UMC parent would have their kid in DCPS unless there is differentiation and a significant cohort of advanced students

It's time to pull back the curtain and let people know what is really going on

And yes its true if your kid is high performing they are generally going to be ignored in favor or focusing on lower kids to close the achievement gap. Focusing on higher performing kids makes the achievement gap worse.

This is why UMC of ALL RACES continue to bail on DCPS

Well I am bailing from private because they don’t do enough differentiation. Teacher told me to go public! Hence why I am on this board. I don’t think UMC parents understand that privates schools are not gifted schools. Privates are rich people school who give financial aid in the name of diversity.

lol well put.

it's why people go to the suburbs where there is actual cohorts of high performers in public schools

There are high performers in DCPS too! Like people in the suburbs see DC as rich smart white kids in privates and dumb poor minority kids in failing public schools, that really isn’t the DCPS I see. Please recognize your view is a false stereotype.

Sorry that's the reality except for the Wilson pyramid. After elementary school 90% of DCPS is low income.

because low-income = dumb and unmotivated?

and high income = advanced.

The truth is more complicated. There are reasons low income schools struggle, but the idea that your high ses child will need a cohort of advanced kids will likely not pan out. There is a 75% chance your child will be at the middle of the pack or below and a 25% chance your child would benefit from a school that put a lot of emphasis on remediation. Read the teens forum. Where did all these "advanced" pkers and early elementary kids go?

Be careful they may pull out a phrenology chart to explain DCPS test scores!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why do parents want to know this kind of information?

The important thing is for your child to be learning. Why so much interest in how other kids are doing? In what way does the rate at which other kids are learning affect your child?

Duh, you want to make sure your kid is doing OK. Not a big deal.

So that their child will have a peer reading group and generally peers on their level, or at least grade level. So that they know the teacher is not overburdened trying to catch up a ton of below-grade kids and no time for the kids who are above grade. That is our situation and it sucks.

Every school has kids below level, on level and above level. I taught in one of the wealthiest schools in the country and I had two groups of below grade level students in guided reading. I still did guided reading with my on level and above level groups and had extension centers for those above.

So I'm really trying to understand the point of showing every parent the chart of the class. Unless it's trying to create competition. Or trying to "motivate" lower students?

I think it's to spare the teachers the work of making a chart for every student. But I think it's a privacy violation still, and the high-performing kids' parents always get distressed when they realize that the bulk of the class is below grade level and therefore the group lessons are too.

I'm a parent of high performing kids in a school where many are not above grade level. There is a good set of differentiated learning combined with a small class size.

The charts tell me that my kid isn't alone as high performing, and instead there's a small but big enough cohort to support differentiated groups. Out of a class of 15, about a quarter is doing much better.

+1. I'm very glad to get a general report on the class as a whole and where my kid fits in for this reason exactly.

this is bs. differentiation in K would be educational malpractice

That's funny, because every school I've looked at, public and private, does it. Some kids are not yet reading, some are starting to read, some are reading fluently, and some are reading above grade level. Differentiation is critical in K.

Based on your response and other there is a lot of misunderstanding about ECE education. None of what is being described would qualify as "differentiation". There is a wide range of normal development which can be supported without labeling or sorting kids unnecessarily.

Some of you are so insecure and desperate for validation through your kids. K is mostly for socialization and play. At most the academic piece is prep for 1st grade

I wish! How did you miss that "K is the new 1st Grade"?! I currently have children in K and 1 and the K's spend just as much time on academics.

Didn't miss it but not buying it, and certainly doesn't make it right. Common to spend the first half of 1st repeating what was covered in K.

[Anonymous]

DCPS test scores are terrible

DCPS graduates people with a 4th grade education level or below on a regular basis

Connect the dots

Blame the parents for not caring, blame the students for not caring, blame too many teachers for phoning it in, blame the central office for promoting fraud.

[Anonymous]

In MCPS, you'll get your child's MAP scores which shows you the scores for the county and across the country. From there, the county provides resources for parents to help them guide their children toward review or enrichment/acceleration. Most of this ocxurs at non-title one schools.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why do parents want to know this kind of information?

The important thing is for your child to be learning. Why so much interest in how other kids are doing? In what way does the rate at which other kids are learning affect your child?

Duh, you want to make sure your kid is doing OK. Not a big deal.

So that their child will have a peer reading group and generally peers on their level, or at least grade level. So that they know the teacher is not overburdened trying to catch up a ton of below-grade kids and no time for the kids who are above grade. That is our situation and it sucks.

Every school has kids below level, on level and above level. I taught in one of the wealthiest schools in the country and I had two groups of below grade level students in guided reading. I still did guided reading with my on level and above level groups and had extension centers for those above.

So I'm really trying to understand the point of showing every parent the chart of the class. Unless it's trying to create competition. Or trying to "motivate" lower students?

I think it's to spare the teachers the work of making a chart for every student. But I think it's a privacy violation still, and the high-performing kids' parents always get distressed when they realize that the bulk of the class is below grade level and therefore the group lessons are too.

I'm a parent of high performing kids in a school where many are not above grade level. There is a good set of differentiated learning combined with a small class size.

The charts tell me that my kid isn't alone as high performing, and instead there's a small but big enough cohort to support differentiated groups. Out of a class of 15, about a quarter is doing much better.

+1. I'm very glad to get a general report on the class as a whole and where my kid fits in for this reason exactly.

this is bs. differentiation in K would be educational malpractice

That's funny, because every school I've looked at, public and private, does it. Some kids are not yet reading, some are starting to read, some are reading fluently, and some are reading above grade level. Differentiation is critical in K.

Based on your response and other there is a lot of misunderstanding about ECE education. None of what is being described would qualify as "differentiation". There is a wide range of normal development which can be supported without labeling or sorting kids unnecessarily.

Some of you are so insecure and desperate for validation through your kids. K is mostly for socialization and play. At most the academic piece is prep for 1st grade

I wish! How did you miss that "K is the new 1st Grade"?! I currently have children in K and 1 and the K's spend just as much time on academics.

Didn't miss it but not buying it, and certainly doesn't make it right. Common to spend the first half of 1st repeating what was covered in K.

Teacher here. Maybe this has been your particular experience, but it is rare one and just not the case for most schools. Kindergartens are expected to read by the end of K, which was never the case 10 + years ago (yes, that’s how long it’s been “the new 1st grade”). In public school th first 6-10 weeks ar generally a review, not the entire first half (which would be 5 months).