So a parent note to say child was sick is sufficient, do you see were this is going? Remember the fake notes written when that poor child went missing, written by the caretaker not a doctor!! |
I think it is sufficient up to 3 days. After than you need a doctor's note. |
I think a lot of the current skipping, absent high school students will just right their own notes. Also, if parents allow them to be absent nothing will change, that's why the "excused" policy needs to be reviewed also! |
You are correct - this actually is how real world work/job is done. You get paid to work a full day - you don’t stop at 2pm if you are finished with a task. You ask for. More responsibility and get promoted. |
Social sciences emergency! We need a full class period dedicated to the discussion of “anecdotes are not data”! Somehow, with all that Amazing Education and Professional Success, this poster never learned such a simple concept! |
Link? |
Sorry - did I miss the post where ANYONE on this thread posted actual data demonstrating that the kids who are absent are underachieving students? Or if they aren't, data demonstrating causation between attendance for highly achieving students and college or career success? Or any information about who the chronically absent kids are? Or really any data at all about the impact of all these absences on learning? Have the people who are advocating that kids who have met graduation requirements be forced to sit around in school presented any data (or, God forbid, even any anecdotes) to support that notion? I get that you think it makes you sound smart to say “anecdotes are not data,” but please learn how to evaluate, present and discuss data to support your ideas before trotting out the tired catchphase you learned to sound smart. |
No, actually I pay my employees to get the job done, not to fill their chairs. Usually, it takes longer than a full day, but if they knock out everything on their plate at 2:00 on a Friday, I don't need to see them until Monday. In my experience, that's how professional adults work. |
It's in the report published by OSSE, yeah basically they are! |
The only OSSE link I've seen is this one: https://osse.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/o...d%20Sept.%2027%2C%202017_0.pdf. There is not one word in that document about absenteeism. Try again. |
This is the OSSE report. It is ALL about absenteeism. I don't see that it distinguishes 'high achieving' Wilson students from others, although all 4-year graduates are separate from those who don't graduate. It is very possible that Cheh, who started this tangent, has access to more granular data than has been released publicly to date. https://osse.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/osse/release_content/attachments/Analysis%20of%20Attendance%20and%20Graduation%20Outcomes%20at%20Public%20High%20Schools%20in%20DC%20-%20Jan%2016%202018%20-%20sm.pdf |
OP here, dipping my toe in this discussion for the first time since initial post. I think it's fairly reasonable to assume that there is a correlation between absenteeism and lower academic achievement. Haven't yet found local data, but did a quick search and found some national data that provides some info about who these students are--for example, Native Americans and Pacific Islanders apparently have the highest rates of chronic absenteeism, whereas Asian students have the lowest rates, followed by white students. Black and Latino students are in the middle. Students who are chronic absent are also less likely to be English-language learners, and more likely to have disabilities. Chronic absenteeism is linked to poor academic achievement and later life outcomes, including poor reading proficiency in early elementary, increased risk of dropping out of high school, and later involvement with the criminal justice system. I'm sure a few highly achieving students also have many missed days (wasn't there a story about some piano prodigy who missed a lot of days a couple of years back?). But, it sounds like this is not what's going on in the aggregate with respect to absenteeism and academic performance. Of course, not all of these data may apply to DC, but it's still interesting and presumably at least partially applicable: https://ed.gov/datastory/chronicabsenteeism.html Also, apparently program's like Obama's "My Brother's Keeper" were created to address this and other issues related to academic achievement: https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/my-brothers-keeper |
The local data. It isn't broken down by race or SES. https://osse.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/osse/release_content/attachments/Analysis%20of%20Attendance%20and%20Graduation%20Outcomes%20at%20Public%20High%20Schools%20in%20DC%20-%20Jan%2016%202018%20-%20sm.pdf Key findings: Students who are transient (attended 2 high schools during senior year) had highest amount of absenteeism (note: 172 students for class of 2017 attended more than one school). While absences increase each year, the difference between 9th and 12th grade isn't dramatic. Students at the comprehensive high schools have more absences than students at either charter high schools or the DCPS application schools. Students who missed more were less likely to graduate on time, although some students who should NOT have been allowed to graduate due to high absenteeism rates (per DCPS policy) were allowed to pass/graduate. |