Are you part of the Opioid Crisis? My family is.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:On the flip side my parent needs a low dose to leave her bed every day. She can only get a 30 day supply and is treated like a criminal every time she goes to the pain clinic. There are no surgeries for her condition and she's tried everything. She's not an addict and never takes more than her low dose. When she runs out, she just cries in bed and is unable to move. We've had to carry her to doctors appointments. The lack of availability of Percocet has limited her life. She has to schedule vacations in between her doctors appointments and often misses holidays and birthdays because she can't travel close to her refill dates. She would like to move closer to her granchildren but can't because she can't find a doctor. She carries her MRI results with her in case of emergency.

I'm worried what happens when Percocet is banned

My dad and I worry that if Percocet is banned that she would turn to the black market or heroin. She's so crippled physically in pain daily. I think this is why a lot of people turn to heroin.

Serious question, but how would she know where to get it? That's what I don't get from these stories of people who supposedly got addicted to prescription drugs first then turned to heroin out of desperation, it doesn't seem the me that your average upstanding middle class person would have an easy connection to a heroin dealer. Personally, I wouldn't have a clue where to get it from.

Pp here. It's so easy to find people. Go to any Baltimore street corner.

She fell one time while visiting me. It was bad and she couldn't get up. She stayed there for about 30 hours. I had a friend who I knew had a sports injury and I paid him for his vicodins. My mom said she was willing to try pot too. One Vicodin in her system and she was able to walk.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:On the flip side my parent needs a low dose to leave her bed every day. She can only get a 30 day supply and is treated like a criminal every time she goes to the pain clinic. There are no surgeries for her condition and she's tried everything. She's not an addict and never takes more than her low dose. When she runs out, she just cries in bed and is unable to move. We've had to carry her to doctors appointments. The lack of availability of Percocet has limited her life. She has to schedule vacations in between her doctors appointments and often misses holidays and birthdays because she can't travel close to her refill dates. She would like to move closer to her granchildren but can't because she can't find a doctor. She carries her MRI results with her in case of emergency.

I'm worried what happens when Percocet is banned

My dad and I worry that if Percocet is banned that she would turn to the black market or heroin. She's so crippled physically in pain daily. I think this is why a lot of people turn to heroin.

Serious question, but how would she know where to get it? That's what I don't get from these stories of people who supposedly got addicted to prescription drugs first then turned to heroin out of desperation, it doesn't seem the me that your average upstanding middle class person would have an easy connection to a heroin dealer. Personally, I wouldn't have a clue where to get it from.

Pp here. It's so easy to find people. Go to any Baltimore street corner.

She fell one time while visiting me. It was bad and she couldn't get up. She stayed there for about 30 hours. I had a friend who I knew had a sports injury and I paid him for his vicodins. My mom said she was willing to try pot too. One Vicodin in her system and she was able to walk.

Oh and she's an upstanding citizen with numerous degrees and is upper class. She would love a surgery for her condition that would cure her but it doesn't exist. Lack of availability of Percocet is real.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You would never know it. The media makes it sound like the Opioid Crisis is just heroin overdoses and doctors writing too many prescriptions.

But the Opioid Crisis is everywhere, is families, including upper class, middle class families, your friends, families like me. Professional, "high level" Ivy league elite, living in nice houses in suburbia.
My husband has been in treatment for three months for addiction to prescription opioids. He lost his job because of it -- a professional position.
This isn't something just happening in flyover country to people with bad teeth.
It's happening on your block, to your neighbors, to your friends.

And it can happen to anyone.

Whoa. I get the point you are trying to make- but that ‘bad tooth’ person has just as much value as you. I could easily say that opioid crisis isn’t just about entitled whiners with daddy issues.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You would never know it. The media makes it sound like the Opioid Crisis is just heroin overdoses and doctors writing too many prescriptions.

But the Opioid Crisis is everywhere, is families, including upper class, middle class families, your friends, families like me. Professional, "high level" Ivy league elite, living in nice houses in suburbia.
My husband has been in treatment for three months for addiction to prescription opioids. He lost his job because of it -- a professional position.
This isn't something just happening in flyover country to people with bad teeth.
It's happening on your block, to your neighbors, to your friends.

And it can happen to anyone.

Whoa. I get the point you are trying to make- but that ‘bad tooth’ person has just as much value as you. I could easily say that opioid crisis isn’t just about entitled whiners with daddy issues.

Thank you for missing my point entirely.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:On the flip side my parent needs a low dose to leave her bed every day. She can only get a 30 day supply and is treated like a criminal every time she goes to the pain clinic. There are no surgeries for her condition and she's tried everything. She's not an addict and never takes more than her low dose. When she runs out, she just cries in bed and is unable to move. We've had to carry her to doctors appointments. The lack of availability of Percocet has limited her life. She has to schedule vacations in between her doctors appointments and often misses holidays and birthdays because she can't travel close to her refill dates. She would like to move closer to her granchildren but can't because she can't find a doctor. She carries her MRI results with her in case of emergency.

I'm worried what happens when Percocet is banned

My dad and I worry that if Percocet is banned that she would turn to the black market or heroin. She's so crippled physically in pain daily. I think this is why a lot of people turn to heroin.

Serious question, but how would she know where to get it? That's what I don't get from these stories of people who supposedly got addicted to prescription drugs first then turned to heroin out of desperation, it doesn't seem the me that your average upstanding middle class person would have an easy connection to a heroin dealer. Personally, I wouldn't have a clue where to get it from.

Pp here. It's so easy to find people. Go to any Baltimore street corner.

She fell one time while visiting me. It was bad and she couldn't get up. She stayed there for about 30 hours. I had a friend who I knew had a sports injury and I paid him for his vicodins. My mom said she was willing to try pot too. One Vicodin in her system and she was able to walk.

It sounds to me, after reading all your posts, that either your mom needs a different doctor _or_ you need to consider that she may have an issue. Or both. Pain medication actually isn't that hard to obtain if you have a true need, take it as prescribed, and don't ask for early refills, etc. I have found National Spine and Pain to be a legitimate practice for people with true chronic pain. Your mom shouldn't be running out early-- either she isn't prescribed the right med/dosage for her, or she is taking too much.

[Anonymous]

Most of my cousins do meth or heroin they are between the ages of 20-40. None of them have worked they just do drugs and reproduce

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Opioid Crisis is my family too.

It's friends telling me how brave I am when I tell them my family member is in treatment for addiction and telling me that they are so glad I am coming forward because it will encourage others to be candid too -- and then never mentioning it again.

It's the same friends and family members asking me why I'm being such a bitch when I'm depressed all the time.

Oh, we forgot about your "situation."

It's total isolation.

I told no one in my family about my child who became addicted. I didn't need or want the speculating they were sure to do among themselves and was pretty sure no one would offer anything useful. It was isolating.

Think about going to a couple of Naranon meetings--that is the only place where I could talk about it. I think the guiding principles of Naranon are somewhat off base, but the interaction with others who have been there, done that can be very helpful.

Good luck. My child is doing super well and treats that period of their life as a bad dream.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why anyone would put even 1 opioid pill in their mouth and swallow it, knowing what know, is just beyond me.

All these teens with the sports injuries and the parents are just like “Here! Have some opioids!”

Because surgery hurts. Because chronic back pain hurts. Because chronic pain hurts. Hurts = laying in bed screaming and moaning, unable to work or take care of the house or anything.

There are other ways to deal with chronic pain, including yoga, meditation, PT, and acupuncture, some of which work for some people.

My c- section hurt like a motherclucker, but I didn't rely on anything stronger than Motrin. I won't let my kids take opioids. Motrin, and cowboy up.

Just because you are in pain doesn't mean you need pain meds.

That's temporary pain. Trying living with chronic pain for years and then get back to us with your Motrin.

I think sometimes chronic pain is more mental than anything else. I know people in chronic pain, and the ones who got addicted to pills had other issues before the pain diagnosis.

[Anonymous]

I hate smuggos who brag about not needing pain meds. People have different physiology. I needed pain meds after my vaginal delivery, and I'm not ashamed. I took them responsibly, as prescribed, for as long as I needed to. I suppose I could have "cowboyed up" or "put on my big girl panties" or another one of your dumb dismissive phrases, but I was in serious pain and needed to do things like snuggle and care for my baby, and eat food, and clean myself. Instead of being floored in unremitting agony. So stuff it.

[Anonymous]

I just started a thread saying my neighbor who lives 2 doors down OD'd and died this morning. I hadn't even seen this thread until now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why anyone would put even 1 opioid pill in their mouth and swallow it, knowing what know, is just beyond me.

All these teens with the sports injuries and the parents are just like “Here! Have some opioids!”

Because surgery hurts. Because chronic back pain hurts. Because chronic pain hurts. Hurts = laying in bed screaming and moaning, unable to work or take care of the house or anything.

There are other ways to deal with chronic pain, including yoga, meditation, PT, and acupuncture, some of which work for some people.

My c- section hurt like a motherclucker, but I didn't rely on anything stronger than Motrin. I won't let my kids take opioids. Motrin, and cowboy up.

Just because you are in pain doesn't mean you need pain meds.

That's temporary pain. Trying living with chronic pain for years and then get back to us with your Motrin.

I think sometimes chronic pain is more mental than anything else. I know people in chronic pain, and the ones who got addicted to pills had other issues before the pain diagnosis.

This is such a disgusting thought process. Hope you never have cancer or throw out your back and are unable to work without meds

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why anyone would put even 1 opioid pill in their mouth and swallow it, knowing what know, is just beyond me.

All these teens with the sports injuries and the parents are just like “Here! Have some opioids!”

Because surgery hurts. Because chronic back pain hurts. Because chronic pain hurts. Hurts = laying in bed screaming and moaning, unable to work or take care of the house or anything.

There are other ways to deal with chronic pain, including yoga, meditation, PT, and acupuncture, some of which work for some people.

My c- section hurt like a motherclucker, but I didn't rely on anything stronger than Motrin. I won't let my kids take opioids. Motrin, and cowboy up.

Just because you are in pain doesn't mean you need pain meds.

I may be naive and/or obtuse, but I feel the same. I had 3 non medicated child births, and they all were excruciatingly painful but I powered through. I know there are all types of pain, but I feel that most people should be able to deal with pretty intense pain for a few days at least with OTC drugs. Or Rx for 1-2 days and then OTC. Except for perhaps end of life, why should the goal be complete pain removal? Pain is normal and it’s OK for people to suffer thru some of it.

[Anonymous]

Start with the drs who prescribe opioids. Most people don't need opioids u less they are late stage/hospice care. Hold drs and the manufacturers responsible and the prescriptions are going to drop dramatically.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why anyone would put even 1 opioid pill in their mouth and swallow it, knowing what know, is just beyond me.

All these teens with the sports injuries and the parents are just like “Here! Have some opioids!”

Because surgery hurts. Because chronic back pain hurts. Because chronic pain hurts. Hurts = laying in bed screaming and moaning, unable to work or take care of the house or anything.

There are other ways to deal with chronic pain, including yoga, meditation, PT, and acupuncture, some of which work for some people.

My c- section hurt like a motherclucker, but I didn't rely on anything stronger than Motrin. I won't let my kids take opioids. Motrin, and cowboy up.

Just because you are in pain doesn't mean you need pain meds.

I may be naive and/or obtuse, but I feel the same. I had 3 non medicated child births, and they all were excruciatingly painful but I powered through. I know there are all types of pain, but I feel that most people should be able to deal with pretty intense pain for a few days at least with OTC drugs. Or Rx for 1-2 days and then OTC. Except for perhaps end of life, why should the goal be complete pain removal? Pain is normal and it’s OK for people to suffer thru some of it.

My pain from childbirth made me vomit with every contraction. If I had been unmedicated, I would have been extremely weak and dehydrated. You'd wish me and my baby several days of that?

If you haven't walked a mile in someone's shoes, maybe you shouldn't judge.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Start with the drs who prescribe opioids. Most people don't need opioids u less they are late stage/hospice care. Hold drs and the manufacturers responsible and the prescriptions are going to drop dramatically.

This is what the drugs were initially marketed for. But small market so Purdue convinced doctors that addiction was really rare with these drugs. Why executives at some of these pharma companies and distributers are not in prison is beyond me. The pain and suffering caused by these drugs is horrific.