"Posh" American accent?

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Anonymous wrote:The poshest American accent is no accent.

Everybody has an accent. Even you! But not me.

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Anonymous wrote:Locust Valley Lockjaw (Long Island)
Larchmont Lockjaw (Westchester)
Basically local terms for mid-Atlantic speech. As in, midway btw US and UK and not as in this part of the country. The accent was affected and taught but died out. Listen to John Cheever reading The Swimmer on Youtube or FDR, William F Buckley or, I suppose, Frasier Crane.

For my money I think the best US accents are the clear California accent you hear with someone like Robert Redford or New England/Northeast accent of Sam Waterston.

Is there a California accent? That's a new one to me.

NP. Californians, particularly Southern Californians, have such a strong accent that I'm surprised anyone could earnestly ask this. It's a lot of drawn out vowels. Watch "The Californians" for a very OTT and absurd version of it

They totally do have their own accent and I find it hilarious and cute.

I am the PP and I do too. As do I find their liberal peppering of "dude" "awesome" "man", etc. (Generalizing, of course). It's like American speech turned up to 11.

People in Virginia Beach and the Outee Banks talk this way as well.

No they definitely don't. Those accents are nothing alike. It's a very regional way of speaking

Um think again. I grew up in Virginia Beach. People say dude there all the time. It's a beach thing. They also dress in the same surfer/skater type clothing. I've actually always been shocked by how similar the culture is (at least the youth culture) between Virginia Beach and San Diego. And I've heard southern
Californians say the same thing vice versa

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Anonymous wrote:Locust Valley Lockjaw (Long Island)
Larchmont Lockjaw (Westchester)
Basically local terms for mid-Atlantic speech. As in, midway btw US and UK and not as in this part of the country. The accent was affected and taught but died out. Listen to John Cheever reading The Swimmer on Youtube or FDR, William F Buckley or, I suppose, Frasier Crane.

For my money I think the best US accents are the clear California accent you hear with someone like Robert Redford or New England/Northeast accent of Sam Waterston.

Is there a California accent? That's a new one to me.

NP. Californians, particularly Southern Californians, have such a strong accent that I'm surprised anyone could earnestly ask this. It's a lot of drawn out vowels. Watch "The Californians" for a very OTT and absurd version of it

They totally do have their own accent and I find it hilarious and cute.

I am the PP and I do too. As do I find their liberal peppering of "dude" "awesome" "man", etc. (Generalizing, of course). It's like American speech turned up to 11.

People in Virginia Beach and the Outee Banks talk this way as well.

No they definitely don't. Those accents are nothing alike. It's a very regional way of speaking

Um think again. I grew up in Virginia Beach. People say dude there all the time. It's a beach thing. They also dress in the same surfer/skater type clothing. I've actually always been shocked by how similar the culture is (at least the youth culture) between Virginia Beach and San Diego. And I've heard southern
Californians say the same thing vice versa

People say "dude" everywhere in the USA, which is why I said the prolific usage in SoCal is what makes it "America turned up to 11". The difference is the extent and level of usage, and also the particular accent. I've lived in both areas- they're nothing alike.

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Anonymous wrote:Locust Valley Lockjaw (Long Island)
Larchmont Lockjaw (Westchester)
Basically local terms for mid-Atlantic speech. As in, midway btw US and UK and not as in this part of the country. The accent was affected and taught but died out. Listen to John Cheever reading The Swimmer on Youtube or FDR, William F Buckley or, I suppose, Frasier Crane.

For my money I think the best US accents are the clear California accent you hear with someone like Robert Redford or New England/Northeast accent of Sam Waterston.

Is there a California accent? That's a new one to me.

NP. Californians, particularly Southern Californians, have such a strong accent that I'm surprised anyone could earnestly ask this. It's a lot of drawn out vowels. Watch "The Californians" for a very OTT and absurd version of it

They totally do have their own accent and I find it hilarious and cute.

I am the PP and I do too. As do I find their liberal peppering of "dude" "awesome" "man", etc. (Generalizing, of course). It's like American speech turned up to 11.

People in Virginia Beach and the Outee Banks talk this way as well.

No they definitely don't. Those accents are nothing alike. It's a very regional way of speaking

Um think again. I grew up in Virginia Beach. People say dude there all the time. It's a beach thing. They also dress in the same surfer/skater type clothing. I've actually always been shocked by how similar the culture is (at least the youth culture) between Virginia Beach and San Diego. And I've heard southern
Californians say the same thing vice versa

People say "dude" everywhere in the USA, which is why I said the prolific usage in SoCal is what makes it "America turned up to 11". The difference is the extent and level of usage, and also the particular accent. I've lived in both areas- they're nothing alike.

As someone who was born and raised in Va Beach and have spent a lot of time in Southern California, I can tell you the usage of Dude is quite prolific in Va BEach as well, not among everyone of course. Personally, I think it's ridiculous, but a lot of young people use it liberally. And again, I've never noticed this Southern California accent, but it's probably not very noticeable to someone who is not from the Northeast.

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Anonymous wrote:Locust Valley Lockjaw (Long Island)
Larchmont Lockjaw (Westchester)
Basically local terms for mid-Atlantic speech. As in, midway btw US and UK and not as in this part of the country. The accent was affected and taught but died out. Listen to John Cheever reading The Swimmer on Youtube or FDR, William F Buckley or, I suppose, Frasier Crane.

For my money I think the best US accents are the clear California accent you hear with someone like Robert Redford or New England/Northeast accent of Sam Waterston.

Is there a California accent? That's a new one to me.

NP. Californians, particularly Southern Californians, have such a strong accent that I'm surprised anyone could earnestly ask this. It's a lot of drawn out vowels. Watch "The Californians" for a very OTT and absurd version of it

They totally do have their own accent and I find it hilarious and cute.

I am the PP and I do too. As do I find their liberal peppering of "dude" "awesome" "man", etc. (Generalizing, of course). It's like American speech turned up to 11.

People in Virginia Beach and the Outee Banks talk this way as well.

No they definitely don't. Those accents are nothing alike. It's a very regional way of speaking

Um think again. I grew up in Virginia Beach. People say dude there all the time. It's a beach thing. They also dress in the same surfer/skater type clothing. I've actually always been shocked by how similar the culture is (at least the youth culture) between Virginia Beach and San Diego. And I've heard southern
Californians say the same thing vice versa

People say "dude" everywhere in the USA, which is why I said the prolific usage in SoCal is what makes it "America turned up to 11". The difference is the extent and level of usage, and also the particular accent. I've lived in both areas- they're nothing alike.

As someone who was born and raised in Va Beach and have spent a lot of time in Southern California, I can tell you the usage of Dude is quite prolific in Va BEach as well, not among everyone of course. Personally, I think it's ridiculous, but a lot of young people use it liberally. And again, I've never noticed this Southern California accent, but it's probably not very noticeable to someone who is not from the Northeast.

So if you've never noticed it before, how can you honestly come in and weigh in on it as if you know what you're talking about? You've just noticed a few people saying "dude" and thought it was the same thing... it's absolutely not, in any regard. Again, people say dude everywhere- not to the same extent or volume

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Anonymous wrote:Locust Valley Lockjaw (Long Island)
Larchmont Lockjaw (Westchester)
Basically local terms for mid-Atlantic speech. As in, midway btw US and UK and not as in this part of the country. The accent was affected and taught but died out. Listen to John Cheever reading The Swimmer on Youtube or FDR, William F Buckley or, I suppose, Frasier Crane.

For my money I think the best US accents are the clear California accent you hear with someone like Robert Redford or New England/Northeast accent of Sam Waterston.

Is there a California accent? That's a new one to me.

NP. Californians, particularly Southern Californians, have such a strong accent that I'm surprised anyone could earnestly ask this. It's a lot of drawn out vowels. Watch "The Californians" for a very OTT and absurd version of it

They totally do have their own accent and I find it hilarious and cute.

I am the PP and I do too. As do I find their liberal peppering of "dude" "awesome" "man", etc. (Generalizing, of course). It's like American speech turned up to 11.

People in Virginia Beach and the Outee Banks talk this way as well.

No they definitely don't. Those accents are nothing alike. It's a very regional way of speaking

Um think again. I grew up in Virginia Beach. People say dude there all the time. It's a beach thing. They also dress in the same surfer/skater type clothing. I've actually always been shocked by how similar the culture is (at least the youth culture) between Virginia Beach and San Diego. And I've heard southern
Californians say the same thing vice versa

People say "dude" everywhere in the USA, which is why I said the prolific usage in SoCal is what makes it "America turned up to 11". The difference is the extent and level of usage, and also the particular accent. I've lived in both areas- they're nothing alike.

As someone who was born and raised in Va Beach and have spent a lot of time in Southern California, I can tell you the usage of Dude is quite prolific in Va BEach as well, not among everyone of course. Personally, I think it's ridiculous, but a lot of young people use it liberally. And again, I've never noticed this Southern California accent, but it's probably not very noticeable to someone who is not from the Northeast.

So if you've never noticed it before, how can you honestly come in and weigh in on it as if you know what you're talking about? You've just noticed a few people saying "dude" and thought it was the same thing... it's absolutely not, in any regard. Again, people say dude everywhere- not to the same extent or volume

The only thing I'm"weighed in" on was not thinking people from Southern California had an accent. Someone else mentioned that they said dude (which is not an accent) and I said that dude was a popular term in the area I grew up in as well.

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Anonymous wrote:Locust Valley Lockjaw (Long Island)
Larchmont Lockjaw (Westchester)
Basically local terms for mid-Atlantic speech. As in, midway btw US and UK and not as in this part of the country. The accent was affected and taught but died out. Listen to John Cheever reading The Swimmer on Youtube or FDR, William F Buckley or, I suppose, Frasier Crane.

For my money I think the best US accents are the clear California accent you hear with someone like Robert Redford or New England/Northeast accent of Sam Waterston.

Is there a California accent? That's a new one to me.

NP. Californians, particularly Southern Californians, have such a strong accent that I'm surprised anyone could earnestly ask this. It's a lot of drawn out vowels. Watch "The Californians" for a very OTT and absurd version of it

They totally do have their own accent and I find it hilarious and cute.

I am the PP and I do too. As do I find their liberal peppering of "dude" "awesome" "man", etc. (Generalizing, of course). It's like American speech turned up to 11.

People in Virginia Beach and the Outee Banks talk this way as well.

No they definitely don't. Those accents are nothing alike. It's a very regional way of speaking

Um think again. I grew up in Virginia Beach. People say dude there all the time. It's a beach thing. They also dress in the same surfer/skater type clothing. I've actually always been shocked by how similar the culture is (at least the youth culture) between Virginia Beach and San Diego. And I've heard southern
Californians say the same thing vice versa

People say "dude" everywhere in the USA, which is why I said the prolific usage in SoCal is what makes it "America turned up to 11". The difference is the extent and level of usage, and also the particular accent. I've lived in both areas- they're nothing alike.

As someone who was born and raised in Va Beach and have spent a lot of time in Southern California, I can tell you the usage of Dude is quite prolific in Va BEach as well, not among everyone of course. Personally, I think it's ridiculous, but a lot of young people use it liberally. And again, I've never noticed this Southern California accent, but it's probably not very noticeable to someone who is not from the Northeast.

So if you've never noticed it before, how can you honestly come in and weigh in on it as if you know what you're talking about? You've just noticed a few people saying "dude" and thought it was the same thing... it's absolutely not, in any regard. Again, people say dude everywhere- not to the same extent or volume

The only thing I'm"weighed in" on was not thinking people from Southern California had an accent. Someone else mentioned that they said dude (which is not an accent) and I said that dude was a popular term in the area I grew up in as well.

JFC. It's like someone saying people from Britain say "mate" and someone saying "we use the word 'mate' here in the U.S." too. It's so boneheaded. Obviously you can use a word and it's different from the volume people use it elsewhere- a volume which makes it a distinctive trademark of said area, for example. No one thinks of people saying "dude" when you mention coastal VA, for Pete's sake.

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William Daniels (Mr. Feeny on Boy Meets World and Dr. Craig on St. Elsewhere) is a good example of the Boston Brahmin accent. That accent only existed to sound fancy and theatrical and has pretty much died out. I cannot even imagine a teenager speaking that way now.

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Maybe the Maine accent is close to the old Mid Atlantic?

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Boston Brahmin accent was once considered our version of a "posh" accent. But it will pretty much disappear once those currently over the age of 55 will die.

Apparently, "vocal fry" originated with younger women from higher SES families. It then migrated to the masses.

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Anonymous wrote:Locust Valley Lockjaw (Long Island)
Larchmont Lockjaw (Westchester)
Basically local terms for mid-Atlantic speech. As in, midway btw US and UK and not as in this part of the country. The accent was affected and taught but died out. Listen to John Cheever reading The Swimmer on Youtube or FDR, William F Buckley or, I suppose, Frasier Crane.

For my money I think the best US accents are the clear California accent you hear with someone like Robert Redford or New England/Northeast accent of Sam Waterston.

Is there a California accent? That's a new one to me.

NP. Californians, particularly Southern Californians, have such a strong accent that I'm surprised anyone could earnestly ask this. It's a lot of drawn out vowels. Watch "The Californians" for a very OTT and absurd version of it

They totally do have their own accent and I find it hilarious and cute.

I am the PP and I do too. As do I find their liberal peppering of "dude" "awesome" "man", etc. (Generalizing, of course). It's like American speech turned up to 11.

People in Virginia Beach and the Outee Banks talk this way as well.

No they definitely don't. Those accents are nothing alike. It's a very regional way of speaking

Um think again. I grew up in Virginia Beach. People say dude there all the time. It's a beach thing. They also dress in the same surfer/skater type clothing. I've actually always been shocked by how similar the culture is (at least the youth culture) between Virginia Beach and San Diego. And I've heard southern
Californians say the same thing vice versa

VA Beach and San Diego actually have a high exchange of people due to military postings. You'll find a ton of used San Diego surfboards on VA Beach Craigslist, plus a lot of people who picked up the SD vernacular during Basic at Pendleton.

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Anonymous wrote:Boy, I guess it's still fashionable and acceptable to be prejudiced against Irish Catholics and Southerners.

PP, we are just stating facts, not condoning it. When JFK was growing up that is how Catholics were treated. My family also faced discrimination as my Dad ( graduated number 1 from University of Penn law school ) couldn't get a job because he was Catholic.

How could people tell someone's religion back then for that sort of thing? Was it based on last names?

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Well, if you had an evidently Irish surname, you were Catholic.

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Grace Kelly is a good example- I don't know anyone who speaks like that anymore

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Anonymous wrote:Mid-Atlantic English or Harvard Lockjaw (aka Yale Lockjaw).

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