Is there modern White flight out of the suburbs happen in DC?

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Anonymous wrote:I wouldn't in a million years live in PG county of that's what you are asking. I have not seen any migration of poor into my Virginia community. We have plenty people of color, lots of Asians with deep pockets. My kids school is 45% white and a farms rate of 5%.

Is this a joke? So you discount an entire county? All the Latinos in VA. Are you serious? It's coming snowflake.

That's where good ol' boy Jeff Sessions comes in.
Attorney General already has a plan in the works to "un-brown" suburban areas and make them habitable again for whites.

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I want my kids to grow up in diverse neighborhoods, racially and economically. However, I care about school test scores and crime. That's what this is really about, at least for me and just about every other white person I know. I really wish the dudes extolling white inventions and mocking other races would shut up, step out of their internet echo chambers, and go meet some more people from backgrounds that don't fit their prejudices. Their BS is a distraction from an otherwise interesting discussion.

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I want my kids to grow up in diverse neighborhoods, racially and economically. However, I care about school test scores and crime. That's what this is really about, at least for me and just about every other white person I know. I really wish the dudes extolling white inventions and mocking other races would shut up, step out of their internet echo chambers, and go meet some more people from backgrounds that don't fit their prejudices. Their BS is a distraction from an otherwise interesting discussion.

Me too, except my kids are black.

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I want my kids to grow up in diverse neighborhoods, racially and economically. However, I care about school test scores and crime. That's what this is really about, at least for me and just about every other white person I know. I really wish the dudes extolling white inventions and mocking other races would shut up, step out of their internet echo chambers, and go meet some more people from backgrounds that don't fit their prejudices. Their BS is a distraction from an otherwise interesting discussion.

Me too, except my kids are black.

PP here. I'm white but have lived in a majority black DC neighborhood for several years. Something I've observed that a lot of whites from majority white neighborhoods don't get is that most people of color - regardless of SES - are also concerned about school test scores and neighborhood crime. A lot of my fellow whites act like they're the only ones that focus on these things, when often it comes down to whether those black/brown families have the financial means to move to an an area with higher scores and lower crime.

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Anonymous wrote:I've basically stopped caring about residential segregation and I'm black. I'm more focused on making sure there are jobs and public areas where people are drawn together from their various segregated neighborhoods. Most people are just weak and only feel safe living among people who look like them.

This reminded me of an interesting model on how hard fighting housing segregation is. There are a couple of interactive models you can play with. I found it to be interesting and it has a hopeful model at the end of what how even a few people who actively choose a diverse neighborhood can help. http://ncase.me/polygons/

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Anonymous wrote:I've basically stopped caring about residential segregation and I'm black. I'm more focused on making sure there are jobs and public areas where people are drawn together from their various segregated neighborhoods. Most people are just weak and only feel safe living among people who look like them.

This reminded me of an interesting model on how hard fighting housing segregation is. There are a couple of interactive models you can play with. I found it to be interesting and it has a hopeful model at the end of what how even a few people who actively choose a diverse neighborhood can help. http://ncase.me/polygons/

Oh cool thanks. I'm the black PP. To be clear, I still personally prefer to live in a diverse area but have just given up on expecting too many others to. Also, I'm not sure which way my own choices cut -- I moved from a more Hispanic and black area of Silver Spring to a more Asian and white area of Rockville (though still definitely some Hispanics and blacks here -- it's not Potomac), but I guess it doesn't count as flight when I do it because I just add a black person wherever I move.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think white people scare easily. See how they colonized and built this country. They do not want their kids exposed to certain elements and want a better education for them. I understand what took place in the 1950s thru 70s and it is only a matter of time until this social upheavel occurs again. That is why I live West of 270 - like a moat.

They didn't scare easily when they colonized because they had guns and disease. Playing field is level on that now. White people are scared of their own shadows.

Please. If people had to do without white inventions , systems and government they would be living in huts with 20 year lifespans.

If white people had to do without the inventions of middle easterners and enslaved black labor, they'd never have developers the "inventions, systems and government" you hold in such high esteem. So there. We all need each other.

Without enslaved labor the pyramids wouldn't have been built, does that mean the Hebrews need the credit instead of the Egyptians? The need you quote is not 50/50.

FYI, if you believe the bible, the Hebrews built Pithom and Ramseses, in roughly 1200 BC.

The pyramids were built miles away, over 1500 years earlier.

Oy.

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Anonymous wrote:No. The only part of D.C. In which I would live is Georgetown. I don't want to die. And I'd never move to D.C. Until my kids are long gone. D.C. has the worst public school system

Yeah in the 70's we moved to Bethesda and my FIL told us, solemnly, "you don't go into the District at night." You and he would get along well, but he's been dead for decades. Sorry.

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^^^ that was meant to be LMAO!

Did you live here in the 70's? Don't laugh. I worked at Metro Center in the mid-80's (in a brand new building as the area was just beginning to turn around), and when I worked late it was scary. This wasn't just in my mind, the crime statistics bore it out. Our firm had a car service when we worked late, so we wouldn't have to stand on the street trying to hail a cab. If you called a cab, they would rarely come. Very few people on the street, and rats the size of small dogs running around. It was a totally different world.

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Anonymous wrote:No. The only part of D.C. In which I would live is Georgetown. I don't want to die. And I'd never move to D.C. Until my kids are long gone. D.C. has the worst public school system

I would say DC actually some elementary schools that are probably that are probably some of the best in the entire region. Granted its only a few. But fairfax is starting to go downhill just like MoCo schools. Both counties used to be a sure thing 15 years ago but are now struggling with much higher FARMS students, ESL etc.

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Anonymous wrote:No. The only part of D.C. In which I would live is Georgetown. I don't want to die. And I'd never move to D.C. Until my kids are long gone. D.C. has the worst public school system

I would say DC actually some elementary schools that are probably that are probably some of the best in the entire region. Granted its only a few. But fairfax is starting to go downhill just like MoCo schools. Both counties used to be a sure thing 15 years ago but are now struggling with much higher FARMS students, ESL etc.

DP here, but SAT scores in Fairfax are at an all-time high, and six of the top 10 high schools in the state are in Fairfax. Strong elementary, middle and high schools in multiple pyramids trump a few good elementary schools (and one good middle school) every time.

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This came up when searching for something else... but mannnn are you guys racist.

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there are no white places in DC area. I moved to DC area last year. My kids old HS had around 1,000 kids so pretty large. My daughters graduating class has one chinese kids, one indian kid, and 2-3 black kids and a handfull of spanish kids. It was around 98 percent white.

In the DC area even schools like VA and MD in top tier schools are not that white all all mainly Asian.

Strong SAT scores and very high ratings are a predictor your schools will eventually suck. It draws in an undesirable population eventual and it sinks.

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Anonymous wrote:I am in Moco and without naming the specific area have seen white flight I am relatively new to the area but was looking at the demographic for our local school. I dont remember the exact numbers but in the 90's there were approx 60% white kids and the rest were other races, It has gradually switched over and is now only about 8% white.
So either the white people are moving or they are all sending their kids private which I find hard to believe. Makes me sad.

I think we may live in the same area! It is sad. There seem to be plenty of white people in my neighborhood but many of them are elderly and if they are young enough to have kids, send their kids to private schools. Mine will be going to public though!

Same here. The only whites remaining are the elderly owners who bought the homes 40 years ago with young families. Now the public school is 70% FARM and less than 10% white.

Are you in Burtonsville?

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Anonymous wrote:there are no white places in DC area. I moved to DC area last year. My kids old HS had around 1,000 kids so pretty large. My daughters graduating class has one chinese kids, one indian kid, and 2-3 black kids and a handfull of spanish kids. It was around 98 percent white.

In the DC area even schools like VA and MD in top tier schools are not that white all all mainly Asian.

Strong SAT scores and very high ratings are a predictor your schools will eventually suck. It draws in an undesirable population eventual and it sinks.

What exactly is an undesirable population?

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Anonymous wrote:Look to major European cities as a model of what will happen here. The wealthier, the closer in you live. The poorer, the further out, until you get to the country estates. I would look at places like Prince William County, Loudoun County, Frederick and Howard Counties as places where that sort of turnover will take place. Meanwhile, DC, Hyattsville, Silver Spring, Arlington etc will prosper.

Likely areas adjacent to mass transit like Metro and Purlple Line will continue to do well.

Doubtful in Loudoun County. You clearly are ingnorant of business development and jobs. So many high paying high tech jobs along the Dulles corridor. This is driving prices up, incomes up and condensing the poor into smaller and smaller areas. Amazon just closed a deal for even more office space doubling their operations. I could go on and on and on about all the growth along the tech corridor. My DH is in commercial real estate and based on what he has seen happening, we've purchased 1 investmwnt property a year in Loudoun (have 5 total) and they are all rented to high income professional singles and young families.

The poorer people who service the affluent in Loudoun Co live in Fairfax Co and Prince William Counties with access to Loudoun via Rt 28
Herndon and Sterling have large poor, mostly Hispanic, populations. On the Rt 395 side, Woodbridge, Manassas Cuty and Park and Dumfries are trending poor and Hispanic