Middle and high school on Capitol Hill

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There is not enough kids on Capitol Hill to make Eastern a full comprehensive high school. As for Ward 6...there still is not enough so that is why the school boundary keeps Eastern viable. But with Kipp, Chavez, Friendship and Ron Brown recruiting heavily it would take SES having an abundance of babies. We have Stuart-Hobson, Eliot-Hines, Browne EC, Kelly Miller, Jefferson and those who trickle in from MS charter-schools. Capitol Hill is represented at Eastern with Potomac Gardens meeting that demographic. But let's be honest the number of SES families with incoming 9th graders for 2017 is about 25 kids..
And the 7 applications are scrambling for them too. SES are the minorities that many want but survives without or strides...has anyone take a look at Ballot lately?

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[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There is not enough kids on Capitol Hill to make Eastern a full comprehensive high school. As for Ward 6...there still is not enough so that is why the school boundary keeps Eastern viable. But with Kipp, Chavez, Friendship and Ron Brown recruiting heavily it would take SES having an abundance of babies. We have Stuart-Hobson, Eliot-Hines, Browne EC, Kelly Miller, Jefferson and those who trickle in from MS charter-schools. Capitol Hill is represented at Eastern with Potomac Gardens meeting that demographic. But let's be honest the number of SES families with incoming 9th graders for 2017 is about 25 kids..
And the 7 applications are scrambling for them too. SES are the minorities that many want but survives without or strides...has anyone take a look at Ballot lately?

Huh?

Sounds like Word Salad! Was wondering when she would show up

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There is not enough kids on Capitol Hill to make Eastern a full comprehensive high school. As for Ward 6...there still is not enough so that is why the school boundary keeps Eastern viable. But with Kipp, Chavez, Friendship and Ron Brown recruiting heavily it would take SES having an abundance of babies. We have Stuart-Hobson, Eliot-Hines, Browne EC, Kelly Miller, Jefferson and those who trickle in from MS charter-schools. Capitol Hill is represented at Eastern with Potomac Gardens meeting that demographic. But let's be honest the number of SES families with incoming 9th graders for 2017 is about 25 kids..
And the 7 applications are scrambling for them too. SES are the minorities that many want but survives without or strides...has anyone take a look at Ballot lately?

Huh?

Sounds like Word Salad! Was wondering when she would show up

This was extreme even for Word Salad!

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Anonymous wrote:I think the idea is that feeding sws, Brent and Maury to a common middle school ( along with other elementaries ) is gerrymandering.

However the biggest gerrymander EVER is the weird, diagonal swath across Capitol Hill that formed the Capitol Hill Cluster School SO THAT people like pp could AVOID going to middle school with anyone other than Watkins graduates. J.O. Wilson and LT were added as feeder schools in only the last 5-6 years. This is what PP and his/her kids benefited from and now enrages him/her about others

Hyperbole much? The boundary travels east/west to accomodate ECE at Peabody. If Peabody went away you'd see some of its boundary absorbed by Brent, Ludlow Taylor and Watkins. As it stands, K is compulsory and children IB for Watkins require an IB K option.

The weider boundary is the eastern portion of Watkins which surgically carves itself around Payne

No, the whole boundary is a hot mess.

-Inbounds for the cluster

But a Clevland Park parent IB for Eaton is just supposed to swallow that while Shepherd and Bancroft keep their Deal feed

Got -- Cluster is the snowflake of DCPS boundaries

Eaton was already dual feeder to both. Shepherd and Bancroft do not have other middle school alternative. The boundary was years before Macfarland reopened.

Please ... Find one Eaton family that turned down Deal

You're going to ignore the other more important part? Eyeroll.

sure they have other options that would have required multi-year planning -- let's not forget that McFarland DID reopen this year and they could have planned to move the feed for SY16-17 if it wasn't a total non-starter with the communities impacted.

The eastern flank of Cluster boundary is no worse than the Mt Pleasant/Crestwood carve out in Deal. Much of the eastern portion of the Cluster contains no housing (Congressional Cemetary/ DC Jail)

Macfarland opened to Spanish speaking feeders. Also, Crestwood boundary was done when they stacked by elementary feeder and got rid of residential feeder (rightfully so). Yes, it hurt Crestwood, but only other option to get them to stay would have been to add Powell and West to Deal.

You mean like Bancroft?

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Anonymous wrote:I think the idea is that feeding sws, Brent and Maury to a common middle school ( along with other elementaries ) is gerrymandering.

However the biggest gerrymander EVER is the weird, diagonal swath across Capitol Hill that formed the Capitol Hill Cluster School SO THAT people like pp could AVOID going to middle school with anyone other than Watkins graduates. J.O. Wilson and LT were added as feeder schools in only the last 5-6 years. This is what PP and his/her kids benefited from and now enrages him/her about others

Hyperbole much? The boundary travels east/west to accomodate ECE at Peabody. If Peabody went away you'd see some of its boundary absorbed by Brent, Ludlow Taylor and Watkins. As it stands, K is compulsory and children IB for Watkins require an IB K option.

The weider boundary is the eastern portion of Watkins which surgically carves itself around Payne

No, the whole boundary is a hot mess.

-Inbounds for the cluster

But a Clevland Park parent IB for Eaton is just supposed to swallow that while Shepherd and Bancroft keep their Deal feed

Got -- Cluster is the snowflake of DCPS boundaries

Eaton was already dual feeder to both. Shepherd and Bancroft do not have other middle school alternative. The boundary was years before Macfarland reopened.

Please ... Find one Eaton family that turned down Deal

You're going to ignore the other more important part? Eyeroll.

sure they have other options that would have required multi-year planning -- let's not forget that McFarland DID reopen this year and they could have planned to move the feed for SY16-17 if it wasn't a total non-starter with the communities impacted.

The eastern flank of Cluster boundary is no worse than the Mt Pleasant/Crestwood carve out in Deal. Much of the eastern portion of the Cluster contains no housing (Congressional Cemetary/ DC Jail)

Macfarland opened to Spanish speaking feeders. Also, Crestwood boundary was done when they stacked by elementary feeder and got rid of residential feeder (rightfully so). Yes, it hurt Crestwood, but only other option to get them to stay would have been to add Powell and West to Deal.

You mean like Bancroft?

For Bancroft AND Shepherd?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There is not enough kids on Capitol Hill to make Eastern a full comprehensive high school. As for Ward 6...there still is not enough so that is why the school boundary keeps Eastern viable. But with Kipp, Chavez, Friendship and Ron Brown recruiting heavily it would take SES having an abundance of babies. We have Stuart-Hobson, Eliot-Hines, Browne EC, Kelly Miller, Jefferson and those who trickle in from MS charter-schools. Capitol Hill is represented at Eastern with Potomac Gardens meeting that demographic. But let's be honest the number of SES families with incoming 9th graders for 2017 is about 25 kids..
And the 7 applications are scrambling for them too. SES are the minorities that many want but survives without or strides...has anyone take a look at Ballot lately?

Huh?

Sounds like Word Salad! Was wondering when she would show up

This was extreme even for Word Salad!

Is this a joke? "Number of SES families"? All families have an SES. Do you mean high SES families? I assure you there are more than 25 high SES 9th graders living on the Hill. (And, more importantly, there would be many, many more if MS and HS were problems.) Also, "Kipp, Chavez, Friendship and Ron Brown" have approximately 0 high SES families combined, so not sure how those schools are relevant; the application schools, especially Walls, are obviously more so. What is Ballot? (No idea why I'm even asking; it's good to know many are striding though...).

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Sorry, if MS and HS wereN'T problems.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the idea is that feeding sws, Brent and Maury to a common middle school ( along with other elementaries ) is gerrymandering.

However the biggest gerrymander EVER is the weird, diagonal swath across Capitol Hill that formed the Capitol Hill Cluster School SO THAT people like pp could AVOID going to middle school with anyone other than Watkins graduates. J.O. Wilson and LT were added as feeder schools in only the last 5-6 years. This is what PP and his/her kids benefited from and now enrages him/her about others

Hyperbole much? The boundary travels east/west to accomodate ECE at Peabody. If Peabody went away you'd see some of its boundary absorbed by Brent, Ludlow Taylor and Watkins. As it stands, K is compulsory and children IB for Watkins require an IB K option.

The weider boundary is the eastern portion of Watkins which surgically carves itself around Payne

No, the whole boundary is a hot mess.

-Inbounds for the cluster

But a Clevland Park parent IB for Eaton is just supposed to swallow that while Shepherd and Bancroft keep their Deal feed

Got -- Cluster is the snowflake of DCPS boundaries

Eaton was already dual feeder to both. Shepherd and Bancroft do not have other middle school alternative. The boundary was years before Macfarland reopened.

Please ... Find one Eaton family that turned down Deal

You're going to ignore the other more important part? Eyeroll.

sure they have other options that would have required multi-year planning -- let's not forget that McFarland DID reopen this year and they could have planned to move the feed for SY16-17 if it wasn't a total non-starter with the communities impacted.

The eastern flank of Cluster boundary is no worse than the Mt Pleasant/Crestwood carve out in Deal. Much of the eastern portion of the Cluster contains no housing (Congressional Cemetary/ DC Jail)

Macfarland opened to Spanish speaking feeders. Also, Crestwood boundary was done when they stacked by elementary feeder and got rid of residential feeder (rightfully so). Yes, it hurt Crestwood, but only other option to get them to stay would have been to add Powell and West to Deal.

You mean like Bancroft?

For Bancroft AND Shepherd?

Are the two conjoined? I don't get it

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not to sound inflammatory, but a lot of high SES parents pull their kids out after elementary school and move to NW or the burbs. Is there movement afoot to improve middle and high school choices? Can anyone forecast the outlook over the next 10 years?

Call the Mayor's office and sign the petition to get Jefferson modernized!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not to sound inflammatory, but a lot of high SES parents pull their kids out after elementary school and move to NW or the burbs. Is there movement afoot to improve middle and high school choices? Can anyone forecast the outlook over the next 10 years?

Within the next 3 years it will sink in with everyone that Hardy MS is now desirable. That will do a few things - it will show that DCPS can turn a middle school in addition to Deal. It will mean fewer OOB slots at Hardy for the Hill. OTOH it might mean a few more slots at the desirable charter middle schools.

Not at all clear what will happen at McFarland. DCPS will continue to work on unraveling the EC's.

Meanwhile gentrification on the Hill and in nearby areas will proceed apace. This will increase the number of high SES kids at a range of Hill area elementaries. By ten years from now the demographic situation impacting the three middle schools will be very different.

[Anonymous]

The phrase 'turn' is gross.

But otherwise I think 15:56 is right.

The 'process' however, takes about 10-12 years. So some of these schools -- e.g. Jefferson and McFarland -- will be places that gentrifiers are excited about in 2027.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the idea is that feeding sws, Brent and Maury to a common middle school ( along with other elementaries ) is gerrymandering.

However the biggest gerrymander EVER is the weird, diagonal swath across Capitol Hill that formed the Capitol Hill Cluster School SO THAT people like pp could AVOID going to middle school with anyone other than Watkins graduates. J.O. Wilson and LT were added as feeder schools in only the last 5-6 years. This is what PP and his/her kids benefited from and now enrages him/her about others

Hyperbole much? The boundary travels east/west to accomodate ECE at Peabody. If Peabody went away you'd see some of its boundary absorbed by Brent, Ludlow Taylor and Watkins. As it stands, K is compulsory and children IB for Watkins require an IB K option.

The weider boundary is the eastern portion of Watkins which surgically carves itself around Payne

No, the whole boundary is a hot mess.

-Inbounds for the cluster

But a Clevland Park parent IB for Eaton is just supposed to swallow that while Shepherd and Bancroft keep their Deal feed

Got -- Cluster is the snowflake of DCPS boundaries

Eaton was already dual feeder to both. Shepherd and Bancroft do not have other middle school alternative. The boundary was years before Macfarland reopened.

Please ... Find one Eaton family that turned down Deal

You're going to ignore the other more important part? Eyeroll.

sure they have other options that would have required multi-year planning -- let's not forget that McFarland DID reopen this year and they could have planned to move the feed for SY16-17 if it wasn't a total non-starter with the communities impacted.

The eastern flank of Cluster boundary is no worse than the Mt Pleasant/Crestwood carve out in Deal. Much of the eastern portion of the Cluster contains no housing (Congressional Cemetary/ DC Jail)

Macfarland opened to Spanish speaking feeders. Also, Crestwood boundary was done when they stacked by elementary feeder and got rid of residential feeder (rightfully so). Yes, it hurt Crestwood, but only other option to get them to stay would have been to add Powell and West to Deal.

You mean like Bancroft?

For Bancroft AND Shepherd?

Are the two conjoined? I don't get it

PP suggested that they should have moved the Bancroft and Shepherd feeder to MacFarland for 16-17 years.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Not to sound inflammatory, but a lot of high SES parents pull their kids out after elementary school and move to NW or the burbs. Is there movement afoot to improve middle and high school choices? Can anyone forecast the outlook over the next 10 years?

Within the next 3 years it will sink in with everyone that Hardy MS is now desirable. That will do a few things - it will show that DCPS can turn a middle school in addition to Deal. It will mean fewer OOB slots at Hardy for the Hill. OTOH it might mean a few more slots at the desirable charter middle schools.

Not at all clear what will happen at McFarland. DCPS will continue to work on unraveling the EC's.

Meanwhile gentrification on the Hill and in nearby areas will proceed apace. This will increase the number of high SES kids at a range of Hill area elementaries. By ten years from now the demographic situation impacting the three middle schools will be very different.

All this. Good job PP!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Not to sound inflammatory, but a lot of high SES parents pull their kids out after elementary school and move to NW or the burbs. Is there movement afoot to improve middle and high school choices? Can anyone forecast the outlook over the next 10 years?

Call the Mayor's office and sign the petition to get Jefferson modernized!

Why? Are the ward 6 parents going to rally around it or EH? Pick one!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Not to sound inflammatory, but a lot of high SES parents pull their kids out after elementary school and move to NW or the burbs. Is there movement afoot to improve middle and high school choices? Can anyone forecast the outlook over the next 10 years?

Call the Mayor's office and sign the petition to get Jefferson modernized!

I'd do that if anybody had a clue where the students filling the modernized building were going to come from. We have more than enough public middle schools in this city; we just don't have the type we need (test-in programs).