lady at the buffet has an ebt card and Iphone

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Anonymous wrote:The OP is sickening, but DCUMs, don't kid yourself - whether she's real or a troll, this is a pretty widely held opinion. I just looked at a FB post my friend from HS had liked; both are waitresses. The post was a rant about some waitressing complaint and quickly degenerated into dozens of rants about people on public assistance. It also was unashamedly racist. I don't know what percentage of the American public thinks this way, but it's not insubstantial. These are the Trump voters.


I'm the poster who could have taken aid but didn't. What perpetuates this is the resentment from people like me who were struggling, and we watched people just like me cash in. I'm white. I saw other white people do this. You people in DC with your pensions and healthcare have no idea how the rest of us really live. You're completely delusional.
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Anonymous wrote:You should have called her on it OP and then slapped the crap out of her. Snatched the iphne away from her and took the ebt card. Your tax dollars are paying for them anyway, right? Why wait for Trump? Poor people certainly don't deserve nice things/delicious food at Golden Corral.

People who consume goods and services courtesy of the American taxpayers should indeed have restrictions on how they spend our money. The Golden Corral isn't horrible, but really....does she need an IPhone? I myself have to watch my spending and am doing just fine with a lesser brand.

I recently read in the Wash Post of a shelter in DC, and it was following the situation of a young mother with three young children. (No husband.) All meals were provided, although her two older kids got free breakfast and free lunch at school. But the mother said she didn't like the quality of the free meals at the shelter, so she took her food stamp money and bought groceries. Plus, the article said that many in the shelter not only didn't like the meals served there, they didn't want to buy groceries, so they took their welfare money and ate two or three times a week at a Chinese restaurant across the street.

So let's look at this double and triple cost to taxpayers. We provided food at a shelter. But, we simultaneously provide food stamps for the grocery? And we then, on top of that, provide enough money to eat at a restaurant 3x a week? Look at all the waste. If someone moves into a shelter that provides all meals free, why isn't the food stamp allowance lowered to reflect that?

The above story shows how our tax dollars are wasted, providing all meals at a shelter while at the same time providing food stamps and enough money to eat out in restaurants. I say when you move to a shelter where all meals are provided, you should be given the option of either having your food stamp allowance cut by 75% (for the time you are in the shelter) OR continuing with your food stamp allotment and foregoing the provided meals. Not both.


Stop being a judgemental a-hole. Despite her circumstances resulting from some unfortunate choices, that mom got her kids to school every day by bus and purchased decent quality food for her kids, including fresh fruit and yogurt. Why don't you try feeding your kids what DC serves to families at homeless shelters? You don't get much nutritional value from hot dogs and pasta. So, unless you're prepared to go volunteer at DC General or a school serving a large homeless population try to STFU.


Another "nice" non-judgmental liberal! My point was we are wasting taxpayer money providing free shelter meals, free school meals, moeny to buy groceries, AND money to eat out - ALL at the same time to the same person. And you're calling me an a-hole and to STFU? And I'm the judgmental one? We have a $20 trillion debt and cannot afford to waste taxpayer money like that. Maybe a little fiscal responsibility is in order.

Should've thought about before starting the pointless war. I'm sure it wasn't the food that put us in a hole.


NP. Please explain why are you so hellbent on electing a candidate who is adamant about a new Cold War?
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She should use her bootstraps to make phone calls jeez Louise some people
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Anonymous wrote:You should have called her on it OP and then slapped the crap out of her. Snatched the iphne away from her and took the ebt card. Your tax dollars are paying for them anyway, right? Why wait for Trump? Poor people certainly don't deserve nice things/delicious food at Golden Corral.

People who consume goods and services courtesy of the American taxpayers should indeed have restrictions on how they spend our money. The Golden Corral isn't horrible, but really....does she need an IPhone? I myself have to watch my spending and am doing just fine with a lesser brand.

I recently read in the Wash Post of a shelter in DC, and it was following the situation of a young mother with three young children. (No husband.) All meals were provided, although her two older kids got free breakfast and free lunch at school. But the mother said she didn't like the quality of the free meals at the shelter, so she took her food stamp money and bought groceries. Plus, the article said that many in the shelter not only didn't like the meals served there, they didn't want to buy groceries, so they took their welfare money and ate two or three times a week at a Chinese restaurant across the street.

So let's look at this double and triple cost to taxpayers. We provided food at a shelter. But, we simultaneously provide food stamps for the grocery? And we then, on top of that, provide enough money to eat at a restaurant 3x a week? Look at all the waste. If someone moves into a shelter that provides all meals free, why isn't the food stamp allowance lowered to reflect that?

The above story shows how our tax dollars are wasted, providing all meals at a shelter while at the same time providing food stamps and enough money to eat out in restaurants. I say when you move to a shelter where all meals are provided, you should be given the option of either having your food stamp allowance cut by 75% (for the time you are in the shelter) OR continuing with your food stamp allotment and foregoing the provided meals. Not both.


Stop being a judgemental a-hole. Despite her circumstances resulting from some unfortunate choices, that mom got her kids to school every day by bus and purchased decent quality food for her kids, including fresh fruit and yogurt. Why don't you try feeding your kids what DC serves to families at homeless shelters? You don't get much nutritional value from hot dogs and pasta. So, unless you're prepared to go volunteer at DC General or a school serving a large homeless population try to STFU.


Another "nice" non-judgmental liberal! My point was we are wasting taxpayer money providing free shelter meals, free school meals, moeny to buy groceries, AND money to eat out - ALL at the same time to the same person. And you're calling me an a-hole and to STFU? And I'm the judgmental one? We have a $20 trillion debt and cannot afford to waste taxpayer money like that. Maybe a little fiscal responsibility is in order.


Cut the deficit on the backs of the poorest and most vulnerable. The GOP has worn out that playbook since the Reagan years. No need to raise taxes to pay for frivolous wars or weapons programs we don't need and the military doesn't want. Just get rid of school lunches and programs like SNAP and TANF and then complain about urban poverty and poor educational outcomes. So, yes, you're a dime-a-dozen blowhard conservative a-hole.

Nope...not an a-hole (and I certainly don't call strangers on the Internet that, either, or anyone for that matter). I just believe in fiscal responsibility and that we can't provide food for people FOUR different ways at the same time. We don't have the money for that. The meals in the shelter aren't healthy, you say, so the mother can feed her kids better with grocery food? OK....then stop the shelter meals and just keep the food stamps going. And besr in mind that nobody is ENTITLED to ANY of this, and yet we have the sanctimonious liberals arguing that people living on taxpayer assistance deserve the choice of FOUR different assistance options, even if using one wastes the other, oh, well....they're entitled. Yes, you're a dime-dozen holier-than-though disrepctful liberal who feels no qualms wasting money and driving up the debt another $10 trillion.


You're delusional. Some kids who attend school in DC are entitled to free breakfast, lunch and afterschool snack under the FARMs program. An infant or toddler is not entitled to this. Neither are parents who are caring for their children. Families also need to be able to purchase formula and food for infants through short-term assistance programs like SNAP and TANF which you clearly can't be bothered to understand. I'm guessing you're equally outraged about so-called "Obamaphones," right? Food delivered to shelters and school meals aren't driving up the deficit. It's military spending, foreign aid, Social Security, and disastrously shortsighted Republican fiscal policies which amount to corporate welfare. Turn off Fox News and start paying attention.


Not PP, but also want to point out that many of the meals provided by shelters, as well as breakfast/lunch/snacks at schools, are often a result of charitable donations (whether financial, or in-kind food). The government plays a big role in helping those in poverty, but so do charitable organizations. This double/triple/quadruple/etc. dipping of gov't funds that some people are referring to wrongly assumes that the government is covering ALL of these things.
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Anonymous wrote:The OP is sickening, but DCUMs, don't kid yourself - whether she's real or a troll, this is a pretty widely held opinion. I just looked at a FB post my friend from HS had liked; both are waitresses. The post was a rant about some waitressing complaint and quickly degenerated into dozens of rants about people on public assistance. It also was unashamedly racist. I don't know what percentage of the American public thinks this way, but it's not insubstantial. These are the Trump voters.


I'm the poster who could have taken aid but didn't. What perpetuates this is the resentment from people like me who were struggling, and we watched people just like me cash in. I'm white. I saw other white people do this. You people in DC with your pensions and healthcare have no idea how the rest of us really live. You're completely delusional.


Ummm, it's not just us high-Falutin' folks here in DC who have healthcare. Perhaps you might have heard about Medicare, Medicaid, VA and this obscure thing called the Affordable Acare Act. By the way, most people in DC don't work for the government and don't have pensions. You should get out of the doublewide more frequently.
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Anonymous wrote:The OP is sickening, but DCUMs, don't kid yourself - whether she's real or a troll, this is a pretty widely held opinion. I just looked at a FB post my friend from HS had liked; both are waitresses. The post was a rant about some waitressing complaint and quickly degenerated into dozens of rants about people on public assistance. It also was unashamedly racist. I don't know what percentage of the American public thinks this way, but it's not insubstantial. These are the Trump voters.


I'm the poster who could have taken aid but didn't. What perpetuates this is the resentment from people like me who were struggling, and we watched people just like me cash in. I'm white. I saw other white people do this. You people in DC with your pensions and healthcare have no idea how the rest of us really live. You're completely delusional.


Ummm, it's not just us high-Falutin' folks here in DC who have healthcare. Perhaps you might have heard about Medicare, Medicaid, VA and this obscure thing called the Affordable Acare Act. By the way, most people in DC don't work for the government and don't have pensions. You should get out of the doublewide more frequently.

Not PP, but I'm too "rich" for Medicaid, too young for Medicare, not qualified for VA benefits, and have had my medical costs go up as a result of the ACA. Some of us just have to make do the best we can, without assistance. It's not always easy. Why not a little compassion for those of us in a more moderate income range who make too much for "aid" but not enough that we don't have to watch our spending very closely.
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Anonymous wrote:I'm not understanding a word of this thread, but it looks like OP is taking a dump on people who don't deserve it.

In a nutshell, yes.
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Anonymous wrote:The OP is sickening, but DCUMs, don't kid yourself - whether she's real or a troll, this is a pretty widely held opinion. I just looked at a FB post my friend from HS had liked; both are waitresses. The post was a rant about some waitressing complaint and quickly degenerated into dozens of rants about people on public assistance. It also was unashamedly racist. I don't know what percentage of the American public thinks this way, but it's not insubstantial. These are the Trump voters.


I'm the poster who could have taken aid but didn't. What perpetuates this is the resentment from people like me who were struggling, and we watched people just like me cash in. I'm white. I saw other white people do this. You people in DC with your pensions and healthcare have no idea how the rest of us really live. You're completely delusional.


Ummm, it's not just us high-Falutin' folks here in DC who have healthcare. Perhaps you might have heard about Medicare, Medicaid, VA and this obscure thing called the Affordable Acare Act. By the way, most people in DC don't work for the government and don't have pensions. You should get out of the doublewide more frequently.


Laughing at your hypocrisy....goes on about the horrors of rants and racism from above post ......but basically has no problem calling me trailer trash because I'm not wealthy and I think poor people should save their resources to increase their opportunity and gain stability. Do you know how much you could save a month without an iPhone and dining out? Probably $100 per month. In two years that's $2400. A down payment on a car. With a vehicle you can expand your geographic range to find work or better work. This is how you provide stability for your family and allow for the possibility for your kids to thrive. This is what personal responsibility looks like.
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Anonymous wrote:The OP is sickening, but DCUMs, don't kid yourself - whether she's real or a troll, this is a pretty widely held opinion. I just looked at a FB post my friend from HS had liked; both are waitresses. The post was a rant about some waitressing complaint and quickly degenerated into dozens of rants about people on public assistance. It also was unashamedly racist. I don't know what percentage of the American public thinks this way, but it's not insubstantial. These are the Trump voters.


I'm the poster who could have taken aid but didn't. What perpetuates this is the resentment from people like me who were struggling, and we watched people just like me cash in. I'm white. I saw other white people do this. You people in DC with your pensions and healthcare have no idea how the rest of us really live. You're completely delusional.


Ummm, it's not just us high-Falutin' folks here in DC who have healthcare. Perhaps you might have heard about Medicare, Medicaid, VA and this obscure thing called the Affordable Acare Act. By the way, most people in DC don't work for the government and don't have pensions. You should get out of the doublewide more frequently.


Laughing at your hypocrisy....goes on about the horrors of rants and racism from above post ......but basically has no problem calling me trailer trash because I'm not wealthy and I think poor people should save their resources to increase their opportunity and gain stability. Do you know how much you could save a month without an iPhone and dining out? Probably $100 per month. In two years that's $2400. A down payment on a car. With a vehicle you can expand your geographic range to find work or better work. This is how you provide stability for your family and allow for the possibility for your kids to thrive. This is what personal responsibility looks like.

I'm with you, PP. So much hypocrisy from the liberals. They will go ballistic if someone dare suggest that a person on public assistance isn't being responsible, but when they come across someone of "modest means" who IS being responsible, they start in with the trailer trash remarks. It's like things we live in Bizzaro World.
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Anonymous wrote:OP does realize that people who receive food stamps by and large still work right? I know of quite a few people on food stamps and every single one of them works and pays taxes. They are the working poor, going from paycheck to paycheck and EBT benefits allow them to feed their kids and still survive. I wish people would stop acting like every single person in this country who receives public assistance is some lowlife scum that is just sitting around with a hand out.



No, they are not all lowlife scum, that we can agree on and we can also agree that we need to look out for each other. I do find it a little difficult though to reach into my "compassion" bag when one of the young ladies who works at our local McDonald's is pregnant with her fourth child, is 22 and not married. I asked her how she handles this and she told me that Mcdonalds actually counsels its' employees on how to seek government aid to supplement their wages. Great, she is working, but she is digging herself into a bigger hole with each child, although the monthly allotment and rent subsidy apparently goes up with each child as long as she is not married. I had one child, why? That is what my husband and I felt we could comfortably afford and even though we would love to have more, we stopped at one. I think at the heart of this thread, OP is reaching for personal "responsibility" and I know that I would be eating pasta and beans on that EBT card saving every dime I could to get off of that card. I just think we have taken that incentive away.
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Anonymous wrote:OP does realize that people who receive food stamps by and large still work right? I know of quite a few people on food stamps and every single one of them works and pays taxes. They are the working poor, going from paycheck to paycheck and EBT benefits allow them to feed their kids and still survive. I wish people would stop acting like every single person in this country who receives public assistance is some lowlife scum that is just sitting around with a hand out.



No, they are not all lowlife scum, that we can agree on and we can also agree that we need to look out for each other. I do find it a little difficult though to reach into my "compassion" bag when one of the young ladies who works at our local McDonald's is pregnant with her fourth child, is 22 and not married. I asked her how she handles this and she told me that Mcdonalds actually counsels its' employees on how to seek government aid to supplement their wages. Great, she is working, but she is digging herself into a bigger hole with each child, although the monthly allotment and rent subsidy apparently goes up with each child as long as she is not married. I had one child, why? That is what my husband and I felt we could comfortably afford and even though we would love to have more, we stopped at one. I think at the heart of this thread, OP is reaching for personal "responsibility" and I know that I would be eating pasta and beans on that EBT card saving every dime I could to get off of that card. I just think we have taken that incentive away.


Different poster, wondering if you're also the type who actively opposes access to family planning.
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My nephew and his young family have an Ebt card. And he and his wife have iPhones. The phones were free with service and are paid for on a family plan my parents pay for. Each additional line is 15 dollars a month. Living several hours apart and having no other computer, phone, Internet, so on, this allows my family to keep in contact. Both my nephew and his wife work full time jobs. They are back breaking low paying jobs however and they have two small children.
You are judging something you have no knowledge about.
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Anonymous wrote:OP does realize that people who receive food stamps by and large still work right? I know of quite a few people on food stamps and every single one of them works and pays taxes. They are the working poor, going from paycheck to paycheck and EBT benefits allow them to feed their kids and still survive. I wish people would stop acting like every single person in this country who receives public assistance is some lowlife scum that is just sitting around with a hand out.



No, they are not all lowlife scum, that we can agree on and we can also agree that we need to look out for each other. I do find it a little difficult though to reach into my "compassion" bag when one of the young ladies who works at our local McDonald's is pregnant with her fourth child, is 22 and not married. I asked her how she handles this and she told me that Mcdonalds actually counsels its' employees on how to seek government aid to supplement their wages. Great, she is working, but she is digging herself into a bigger hole with each child, although the monthly allotment and rent subsidy apparently goes up with each child as long as she is not married. I had one child, why? That is what my husband and I felt we could comfortably afford and even though we would love to have more, we stopped at one. I think at the heart of this thread, OP is reaching for personal "responsibility" and I know that I would be eating pasta and beans on that EBT card saving every dime I could to get off of that card. I just think we have taken that incentive away.


They are scamming is! Look how awesome that mcd's cashier has it! You and your husband should quit your jobs, start working fast food, get benefits and have a bunch of kids! Then your life and your kids lives will be so much better than it is now. That mcd's cashier had it figured out.
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Anonymous wrote:Have you all tried to get a new iphone recently? They're like $30 a month or $650.


Have you tried to get a used iPhone recently?
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I see the same man who stands on the corner at a nearby intersection panhandling when I've gone into our nearby Starbucks more than once. He's drinking a large coffee (or some other coffee drink), on his laptop, and has a profoundly less haggard look on his face than he does when he's out "working" the corner.
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