Movies at school. All day.

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:School is not over, the pack up shot should take place after school ends. Why does it seem like they are rushing to pack in the learning all year but then the last week is thrown away? That said, I would have no problem with it if the kids were outside or playing educational board or computer games but movies????

why can't teachers pack up after the students are no longer in the building?

I agree--that's what I meant to say

Because they aren't getting paid after that. Duh. Many of them have summer jobs, also, meaning you don't have extra days to come in to work to clean up. My son's last 3 teachers all taught summer school.

I don't get paid for coming in on the occasional weekend or staying late on a weeknight. But I just do it because it is what it takes to get the job done. The work culture in DC is lacking.


Have you actually read this entire thread? A PP posted about not having access to the building to get the job done once school ends. I'm not a fan of movies in school and I agree that a week or two of movies is egregious, but the teachers posting here have some very real challenges and berating and blaming them for a system they don't control is the very definition of unproductive.

If we want learning to happen until the last day of school, we need to support teachers in their quest for more time to get their administrative work done. Paid time and access to their classrooms to pack up after the students leave would be a good place to start.
Anonymous
DCPS is the only district that uses IMPACT. Collecting the data, inputting the data, and presenting the data is how teachers keep their jobs. No one helps with any of it. There is more to the story than you know, but you just keep telling yourself your little story full or would have, could haves, and should haves.
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Anonymous wrote:DCPS HS teacher here,

I have to be out of the building by 4pm Friday. They gave us a checklist Monday of things that have to be done by Friday. Someone has to sign off on each one, and unfortunately it's not the same person for each thing so I'm at the mercy of other people's schedules. Textbooks are turned in to the librarian. Supplemental texts are turned in to department heads. Laptops and desktops have to be returned to the folks from OCTO, and the engineers have to do an inspection of the classroom. There's a debrief with the assistant principal regarding our final IMPACT component, TAS. There's also a meeting with the SPED supervisor to ensure all documents have been submitted. Finally, I have to supply a printout showing that all 4th quarter and final exam grades have been submitted. All of this while the other 100 teachers are trying to do the exact same thing.

It would make sense to have a week after all of the kids leave, but the reality is that central office knows that they don't show up the last two weeks of school. I had 4 out of 75 kids show up today. Attendance has been bad ever since the PARCC ended last month.


Have any of you complaining about the teachers actually read this? Do you have a suggestion about how they can accomplish all this while still teaching? I agree that an adjusted level of teaching should occur until the end of school, but we have to acknowledge the reality of the teachers' situation. My children are at charters and have been receiving lessons this last week, but the teachers also come back next week.


I read it, and I acknowledge that it sounds like a ton of work to close out the year. But ALL school systems have this problem, and I can guarantee you that there are school systems that have figured out how to allow teachers time to do this admin work while not short-changing students (and taxpayers) of a full week's worth of education. DCPS has to stand up and say that learning won't stop when the tests are over. This general attitude is why families who can jump ship from systems like DCPS still do so at the first opportunity: because no matter what anyone says, the education of kids still isn't coming first much of the time at DCPS.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:School is not over, the pack up shot should take place after school ends. Why does it seem like they are rushing to pack in the learning all year but then the last week is thrown away? That said, I would have no problem with it if the kids were outside or playing educational board or computer games but movies????

why can't teachers pack up after the students are no longer in the building?

I agree--that's what I meant to say

Because they aren't getting paid after that. Duh. Many of them have summer jobs, also, meaning you don't have extra days to come in to work to clean up. My son's last 3 teachers all taught summer school.

I don't get paid for coming in on the occasional weekend or staying late on a weeknight. But I just do it because it is what it takes to get the job done. The work culture in DC is lacking.


Have you actually read this entire thread? A PP posted about not having access to the building to get the job done once school ends. I'm not a fan of movies in school and I agree that a week or two of movies is egregious, but the teachers posting here have some very real challenges and berating and blaming them for a system they don't control is the very definition of unproductive.

If we want learning to happen until the last day of school, we need to support teachers in their quest for more time to get their administrative work done. Paid time and access to their classrooms to pack up after the students leave would be a good place to start.


+1
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:And some people wonder why parents reject their local DCPS.


Dear PP,

Bye.

Signed,

DCPS



Funny in a sad way. As if everyone at LAMB and YY doesn't already know our expectations are too high for you.

It's a bit like Chris Rock said. In this case, you boycotting us and our high expectations is irrelevant. You were never invited.


Let's hope those expectations continue when your kid has access to a tablet all day.



Online access is a fact of life. Disinterested and unengaged teachers don't have to be.


And neither do hysterical childbearing people who don't actually want to be PARENTS.

For one, if you count on anyone else-school, teacher or otherwise-to be your child's sole educator, you're doing parenting all wrong.

Two, if you're so appalled by the lack of instruction happening the last week or two, supplement at home. Problem solved.



If you don't like the education, take it into your own hands. True for the law as well?


Are we talking about education or law here? Educating your child is very much a part of parenting.

But um yeah. If you don't like the laws, do your part to have them changed. Go to the poll and vote. Part of being a citizen.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:And some people wonder why parents reject their local DCPS.


Dear PP,

Bye.

Signed,

DCPS



Funny in a sad way. As if everyone at LAMB and YY doesn't already know our expectations are too high for you.

It's a bit like Chris Rock said. In this case, you boycotting us and our high expectations is irrelevant. You were never invited.


Yes, the Chris Rock joke does apply here. DCPS doesn't give a damn if you reject their schools. YOU were never invited. DCPS is too concerned about educating the kids it has to worry about those who choose other schools. So, BYE!



The soft bigotry of low expectations.


Or the hard reality of truth.

Your choice.

If LAMB and YY does it for you, what's the problem? Take your children there and leave DCPS teachers to packing and movies the last week of school.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:And some people wonder why parents reject their local DCPS.


Dear PP,

Bye.

Signed,

DCPS



Funny in a sad way. As if everyone at LAMB and YY doesn't already know our expectations are too high for you.

It's a bit like Chris Rock said. In this case, you boycotting us and our high expectations is irrelevant. You were never invited.


Yes, the Chris Rock joke does apply here. DCPS doesn't give a damn if you reject their schools. YOU were never invited. DCPS is too concerned about educating the kids it has to worry about those who choose other schools. So, BYE!


Um... So, DCPS is only concerned with educating the children that haven't left due to the poor performance of DCPS? Kind of a chicken and egg thing, huh?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:And some people wonder why parents reject their local DCPS.


Dear PP,

Bye.

Signed,

DCPS



Funny in a sad way. As if everyone at LAMB and YY doesn't already know our expectations are too high for you.

It's a bit like Chris Rock said. In this case, you boycotting us and our high expectations is irrelevant. You were never invited.


Yes, the Chris Rock joke does apply here. DCPS doesn't give a damn if you reject their schools. YOU were never invited. DCPS is too concerned about educating the kids it has to worry about those who choose other schools. So, BYE!


Um... So, DCPS is only concerned with educating the children that haven't left due to the poor performance of DCPS? Kind of a chicken and egg thing, huh?


Whatever you call it, it makes sense. If you have 100 or 1 million students in your school system, shouldn't the system's concern be educating them?

Let the privates and charters worry about the kids they have.

Anonymous
DCPS should make final exam days half-days like every functioning school system on the planet. That gives teachers an opportunity to catch up with grading and work on breaking down their rooms.

Once exams are over, school is done!

But in DCPS, schools are seen as daycare centers and teachers as babysitters.

So this is what you get. Babysitting the last week or so of school.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:DCPS should make final exam days half-days like every functioning school system on the planet. That gives teachers an opportunity to catch up with grading and work on breaking down their rooms.

Once exams are over, school is done!

But in DCPS, schools are seen as daycare centers and teachers as babysitters.

So this is what you get. Babysitting the last week or so of school.


+1.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:And some people wonder why parents reject their local DCPS.


Dear PP,

Bye.

Signed,

DCPS



Funny in a sad way. As if everyone at LAMB and YY doesn't already know our expectations are too high for you.

It's a bit like Chris Rock said. In this case, you boycotting us and our high expectations is irrelevant. You were never invited.


Let's hope those expectations continue when your kid has access to a tablet all day.



Online access is a fact of life. Disinterested and unengaged teachers don't have to be.


And neither do hysterical childbearing people who don't actually want to be PARENTS.

For one, if you count on anyone else-school, teacher or otherwise-to be your child's sole educator, you're doing parenting all wrong.

Two, if you're so appalled by the lack of instruction happening the last week or two, supplement at home. Problem solved.



If you don't like the education, take it into your own hands. True for the law as well?


Are we talking about education or law here? Educating your child is very much a part of parenting.

But um yeah. If you don't like the laws, do your part to have them changed. Go to the poll and vote. Part of being a citizen.



Personally, I take my children's education seriously. I "take it into my own hands." I can, and I'm better educated than the vast majority of employees of the system, even at the highest levels. C'est la vie. It's why I constantly question the value of DCPS even in so-called "good" schools. I'm sure that's true for a small, vocal minority of families. it is working for us, but it's rather unfair for the children of less educated parents that they are forced to rely on this sort of laziness.

At the end of the day, it comes down to my standards are higher than yours. My children will get more than yours do. Mine will be more educated than yours are. I'm fine with that, but since these are tax-payer dollars, it's too bad that other people don't what they think (what we all think) they are paying for.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:And some people wonder why parents reject their local DCPS.


Dear PP,

Bye.

Signed,

DCPS



Funny in a sad way. As if everyone at LAMB and YY doesn't already know our expectations are too high for you.

It's a bit like Chris Rock said. In this case, you boycotting us and our high expectations is irrelevant. You were never invited.


Yes, the Chris Rock joke does apply here. DCPS doesn't give a damn if you reject their schools. YOU were never invited. DCPS is too concerned about educating the kids it has to worry about those who choose other schools. So, BYE!


Um... So, DCPS is only concerned with educating the children that haven't left due to the poor performance of DCPS? Kind of a chicken and egg thing, huh?



That's what it looks like. If they scare away parents who are concerned about performance, then there are fewer demands to meet. That makes sense as far as signalling families goes, but how about the taxpayers? Are they being effectively signalled that the money is being squandered?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:And some people wonder why parents reject their local DCPS.


Dear PP,

Bye.

Signed,

DCPS[/quoteK


Funny in a sad way. As if everyone at LAMB and YY doesn't already know our expectations are too high for you.

It's a bit like Chris Rock said. In this case, you boycotting us and our high expectations is irrelevant. You were never invited.


Yes, the Chris Rock joke does apply here. DCPS doesn't give a damn if you reject their schools. YOU were never invited. DCPS is too concerned about educating the kids it has to worry about those who choose other schools. So, BYE!


Um... So, DCPS is only concerned with educating the children that haven't left due to the poor performance of DCPS? Kind of a chicken and egg thing, huh?



That's what it looks like. If they scare away parents who are concerned about performance, then there are fewer demands to meet. That makes sense as far as signalling families goes, but how about the taxpayers? Are they being effectively signalled that the money is being squandered?



All of this because teachers are showing movies as the year wraps up. Yawn.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:And some people wonder why parents reject their local DCPS.


Dear PP,

Bye.

Signed,

DCPS



Funny in a sad way. As if everyone at LAMB and YY doesn't already know our expectations are too high for you.

It's a bit like Chris Rock said. In this case, you boycotting us and our high expectations is irrelevant. You were never invited.


Let's hope those expectations continue when your kid has access to a tablet all day.



Online access is a fact of life. Disinterested and unengaged teachers don't have to be.


And neither do hysterical childbearing people who don't actually want to be PARENTS.

For one, if you count on anyone else-school, teacher or otherwise-to be your child's sole educator, you're doing parenting all wrong.

Two, if you're so appalled by the lack of instruction happening the last week or two, supplement at home. Problem solved.



If you don't like the education, take it into your own hands. True for the law as well?


Are we talking about education or law here? Educating your child is very much a part of parenting.

But um yeah. If you don't like the laws, do your part to have them changed. Go to the poll and vote. Part of being a citizen.



Personally, I take my children's education seriously. I "take it into my own hands." I can, and I'm better educated than the vast majority of employees of the system, even at the highest levels. C'est la vie. It's why I constantly question the value of DCPS even in so-called "good" schools. I'm sure that's true for a small, vocal minority of families. it is working for us, but it's rather unfair for the children of less educated parents that they are forced to rely on this sort of laziness.

At the end of the day, it comes down to my standards are higher than yours. My children will get more than yours do. Mine will be more educated than yours are. I'm fine with that, but since these are tax-payer dollars, it's too bad that other people don't what they think (what we all think) they are paying for.


So what are you boo-hooing about?

If you're so super educated and your kids are too, what's the problem?

All of this because teachers are showing movies as the year wraps up?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:And some people wonder why parents reject their local DCPS.


Dear PP,

Bye.

Signed,

DCPS



Funny in a sad way. As if everyone at LAMB and YY doesn't already know our expectations are too high for you.

It's a bit like Chris Rock said. In this case, you boycotting us and our high expectations is irrelevant. You were never invited.


Let's hope those expectations continue when your kid has access to a tablet all day.



Online access is a fact of life. Disinterested and unengaged teachers don't have to be.


And neither do hysterical childbearing people who don't actually want to be PARENTS.

For one, if you count on anyone else-school, teacher or otherwise-to be your child's sole educator, you're doing parenting all wrong.

Two, if you're so appalled by the lack of instruction happening the last week or two, supplement at home. Problem solved.



If you don't like the education, take it into your own hands. True for the law as well?


Are we talking about education or law here? Educating your child is very much a part of parenting.

But um yeah. If you don't like the laws, do your part to have them changed. Go to the poll and vote. Part of being a citizen.



Personally, I take my children's education seriously. I "take it into my own hands." I can, and I'm better educated than the vast majority of employees of the system, even at the highest levels. C'est la vie. It's why I constantly question the value of DCPS even in so-called "good" schools. I'm sure that's true for a small, vocal minority of families. it is working for us, but it's rather unfair for the children of less educated parents that they are forced to rely on this sort of laziness.

At the end of the day, it comes down to my standards are higher than yours. My children will get more than yours do. Mine will be more educated than yours are. I'm fine with that, but since these are tax-payer dollars, it's too bad that other people don't what they think (what we all think) they are paying for.


So what are you boo-hooing about?

If you're so super educated and your kids are too, what's the problem?

All of this because teachers are showing movies as the year wraps up?




To those who understand inefficiency or care about results, it's a waste of money. Clearly you are no such person. You would make a good sheep.

No wonder other school systems get better outcomes. The teachers aren't as lazy, the families aren't as complacent. Obviously, these aren't negatives in your view.
Anonymous
I agree with 16:11. I think we should pay teachers to do wrap up when kids are gone and, as a PP put it, have kids run through the finish line.

These last couple days were supposed to makeup for snow days. Too much instructional time has been missed.
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