Young couples with kids---Where did you move to from the DC area?

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Anonymous wrote:You guys must all be white.

Asian.

Most of the midwest cities are fairly diverse between black and white, with much smaller numbers in hispanic, muslim, asian and indian nationalities.

If you are looking for almost all white with a spattering of other races, it is the pacific northwest (spattering of asians) or the upper northeast (all white).

The midwest is not even close to being all white.

Of course the midwest is not all white, but I think the PP was suggesting that it's mainly white people that would find themselves happier in the midwest than in DC (or another large city).

Well, PP was wrong, and stupid. Diversity starts by understanding that not everyone and everything is black or white.

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We moved to Portland, Maine. Small but relatively sophisticated city. Tough winters though.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You guys must all be white.

Asian.

Most of the midwest cities are fairly diverse between black and white, with much smaller numbers in hispanic, muslim, asian and indian nationalities.

If you are looking for almost all white with a spattering of other races, it is the pacific northwest (spattering of asians) or the upper northeast (all white).

The midwest is not even close to being all white.

Of course the midwest is not all white, but I think the PP was suggesting that it's mainly white people that would find themselves happier in the midwest than in DC (or another large city).

Well, PP was wrong, and stupid. Diversity starts by understanding that not everyone and everything is black or white.

Right...and you get more diversity in big cities like DC, than you get in the Midwest, where diversity is mostly black and white (with some Hispanic).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We moved to Portland, Maine. Small but relatively sophisticated city. Tough winters though.

Nice. Portland's high on my and DH's daydream list.

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Anonymous wrote:We moved to Portland, Maine. Small but relatively sophisticated city. Tough winters though.

Nice. Portland's high on my and DH's daydream list.

PP here-- come on up and join us!!! DH is from Maine. I like it so far (been here less than a year) but the mild winter probably had something to do with it But housing is affordable and people (for the most part) are down to earth. I can't wait for summertime!

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Grew up in Nova. Moved to Chicago for grad school and had kids there. After a couple years post-kids of thinking living in a place like Chicago (with no family) would be too tough, picked up and moved to Raleigh NC. It sucked. Back in Chicago and love it, appreciate the true benefits of a big city now.

Also, I'm beginning to think weather in Chicago is better than DC. No massive 36" snow storms that paralyze the city. No dreaded "sleet" that wrecks traffic. No sweltering humid summers.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You guys must all be white.

Asian.

Most of the midwest cities are fairly diverse between black and white, with much smaller numbers in hispanic, muslim, asian and indian nationalities.

If you are looking for almost all white with a spattering of other races, it is the pacific northwest (spattering of asians) or the upper northeast (all white).

The midwest is not even close to being all white.

Of course the midwest is not all white, but I think the PP was suggesting that it's mainly white people that would find themselves happier in the midwest than in DC (or another large city).

Well, PP was wrong, and stupid. Diversity starts by understanding that not everyone and everything is black or white.

Right...and you get more diversity in big cities like DC, than you get in the Midwest, where diversity is mostly black and white (with some Hispanic).

Uh, you all need to get out more. The entire country has changed over the last 25 years. Every place is diverse and has some if not significant immigrant populations. Are there corners that are still very white - yes. But fewer and fewer. Every rural places that you would think would be fairly unchanged have had significant population changes. Is every place the SF Bay Area with majority minority populations? No. But everyplace is moving in that direction.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You guys must all be white.

Asian.

Most of the midwest cities are fairly diverse between black and white, with much smaller numbers in hispanic, muslim, asian and indian nationalities.

If you are looking for almost all white with a spattering of other races, it is the pacific northwest (spattering of asians) or the upper northeast (all white).

The midwest is not even close to being all white.

Of course the midwest is not all white, but I think the PP was suggesting that it's mainly white people that would find themselves happier in the midwest than in DC (or another large city).

Well, PP was wrong, and stupid. Diversity starts by understanding that not everyone and everything is black or white.

Right...and you get more diversity in big cities like DC, than you get in the Midwest, where diversity is mostly black and white (with some Hispanic).

Uh, you all need to get out more. The entire country has changed over the last 25 years. Every place is diverse and has some if not significant immigrant populations. Are there corners that are still very white - yes. But fewer and fewer. Every rural places that you would think would be fairly unchanged have had significant population changes. Is every place the SF Bay Area with majority minority populations? No. But everyplace is moving in that direction.

Let's look at Kansas City, since that has been the subject of lots of discussion. 60% white, 30% black, 10% hispanic (about 5% also classifying as white). 2.5% Asian. http://www.census.gov/quickfacts/table/PST045215/2938000

And now let's look at a race map of the city:
http://www.pitch.com/FastPitch/archives/2010/09/21/eric-fischers-racial-segregation-map-shows-kansas-citys-true-colors

This is my point about the midwest (where I am from, by the way.)

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You guys must all be white.

Asian.

Most of the midwest cities are fairly diverse between black and white, with much smaller numbers in hispanic, muslim, asian and indian nationalities.

If you are looking for almost all white with a spattering of other races, it is the pacific northwest (spattering of asians) or the upper northeast (all white).

The midwest is not even close to being all white.

Of course the midwest is not all white, but I think the PP was suggesting that it's mainly white people that would find themselves happier in the midwest than in DC (or another large city).

Well, PP was wrong, and stupid. Diversity starts by understanding that not everyone and everything is black or white.

Right...and you get more diversity in big cities like DC, than you get in the Midwest, where diversity is mostly black and white (with some Hispanic).

Uh, you all need to get out more. The entire country has changed over the last 25 years. Every place is diverse and has some if not significant immigrant populations. Are there corners that are still very white - yes. But fewer and fewer. Every rural places that you would think would be fairly unchanged have had significant population changes. Is every place the SF Bay Area with majority minority populations? No. But everyplace is moving in that direction.

Let's look at Kansas City, since that has been the subject of lots of discussion. 60% white, 30% black, 10% hispanic (about 5% also classifying as white). 2.5% Asian. http://www.census.gov/quickfacts/table/PST045215/2938000

And now let's look at a race map of the city:
http://www.pitch.com/FastPitch/archives/2010/09/21/eric-fischers-racial-segregation-map-shows-kansas-citys-true-colors

This is my point about the midwest (where I am from, by the way.)

^In case it's not clear, my point being that diversity in the midwest (while changing) is still mostly black and white. Also, that people of color are likely to be happier here where diversity is not limited to the inner cities or immigrant hoods.

[Anonymous]

Wilmington NC. Best kept secret in the state. Hard to find jobs for feds though... my DH got very lucky. Got a house on the bay with a dock for less than a AU park studio or 1br.

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How different was your life in KC though? You saved a lot of money and got a great house. How about walkability? Activities? Entertainment (museums, plays, cultural parties)? I just did a google search and KC itself doesn't seem to have many condos or even 'non-suburban' homes. They all look like planned lots that you need to drive in and out along major highways. Is there a downtown historic section of homes that I could look at (generally close to everything)?

Thanks for your questions. There are quite a few "walkable" neighborhoods in Kansas City: W. 39th Street Corridor/Historic Westport; Brookside, Waldo, Hyde Park, and Southmoreland. For those looking for a loft experience rather than SFHs, there's a ton of activity going on in the Midtown Arts District. For classic, pre-war 2 and 3 bedroom apartments centered on retail, consider Country Club Plaza.

If we go back, Brookside (centered on W. 63rd Street and Brookside Blvd.) is probably where we'll buy. A bit pricy for KC, but walkable with a great retail corridor - places like Reading Reptile and Brookside Science and Toys alone are fantastic kid-centered stores. It also has good school options - St. Peter's (Catholic) and Academie Lafayette (French language immersion PCS).

Kansas City is currently building a streetcar line along Main Street from downtown (City Market) to Union Station. From Union Station south to West 75th Street, Kansas City has the MAX Bus along Main Street and Brookside Boulevard. It is similar in concept to the Circulator and about a 20 minute trip from Brookside to downtown. It runs 7 days a week with service every 10-30 minutes depending on day/time.

Before we went to KC, I'd been in DC for 7 years and my spouse for 11. We probably took in more "culture" during our single year in KC than in any 3 year span in DC. We fell in love with Unicorn Theater and got to attend two opening night celebrations ("Grounded" and "Other Desert Cities"). We were welcomed with open arms and felt right at home. I became involved with KKFI, Kansas City's community radio station and found it very welcoming. I even got the chance to DJ a 3 hour show that celebrates my favorite music genre (80s New Wave, synth, and industrial) just prior to leaving - that was one of the highlights of my year. There are many cultural events, book talks, concerts, etc. UMKC is a fairly comprehensive university and that brings much to the city. Also, a fair number of KU faculty live in KC, MO and reverse commute to Lawrence for work.

For families, there is so much so close - Union Station, The Royals, Children's Science Museum, the Aquarium, Zoo, Kids Shows at Sprint Center, Crown Center, City Market, Schlitterbahn, easy access to nature/farms. There's even a small ski facility north of KC.

In short, we found a great community spirit and things just seemed so much more accessible to families on a Federal salary than in DC. KC also has a very vibrant civic activist culture which I personally loved. Again, it was just so much easier to "plug into" than DC. I really enjoyed the opportunity to join with Stand Up KC and the Heartland Labor Forum on the Fight for 15 and other causes. I haven't had opportunities like this since before I came to Washington.

Of course, there's also the suburban option if that's what people want. The Johnson County (KS) suburbs are all quite accessible to KC with many amenities.

I hope this helps.

I just surfed this area online. The houses are stunning - so much nicer than anywhere in DC!!!

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There are communities of white ethnic people in some Midwestern cities. No such thing in DC, l miss that.

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Anonymous wrote:There are communities of white ethnic people in some Midwestern cities. No such thing in DC, l miss that.

housing stock in DC definitely sucks.

[Anonymous]

East Coast of Florida. Great life near the beach but very limited job opportunity. Thank goodness we had jobs before coming here.

[Anonymous]

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How different was your life in KC though? You saved a lot of money and got a great house. How about walkability? Activities? Entertainment (museums, plays, cultural parties)? I just did a google search and KC itself doesn't seem to have many condos or even 'non-suburban' homes. They all look like planned lots that you need to drive in and out along major highways. Is there a downtown historic section of homes that I could look at (generally close to everything)?

Thanks for your questions. There are quite a few "walkable" neighborhoods in Kansas City: W. 39th Street Corridor/Historic Westport; Brookside, Waldo, Hyde Park, and Southmoreland. For those looking for a loft experience rather than SFHs, there's a ton of activity going on in the Midtown Arts District. For classic, pre-war 2 and 3 bedroom apartments centered on retail, consider Country Club Plaza.

If we go back, Brookside (centered on W. 63rd Street and Brookside Blvd.) is probably where we'll buy. A bit pricy for KC, but walkable with a great retail corridor - places like Reading Reptile and Brookside Science and Toys alone are fantastic kid-centered stores. It also has good school options - St. Peter's (Catholic) and Academie Lafayette (French language immersion PCS).

Kansas City is currently building a streetcar line along Main Street from downtown (City Market) to Union Station. From Union Station south to West 75th Street, Kansas City has the MAX Bus along Main Street and Brookside Boulevard. It is similar in concept to the Circulator and about a 20 minute trip from Brookside to downtown. It runs 7 days a week with service every 10-30 minutes depending on day/time.

Before we went to KC, I'd been in DC for 7 years and my spouse for 11. We probably took in more "culture" during our single year in KC than in any 3 year span in DC. We fell in love with Unicorn Theater and got to attend two opening night celebrations ("Grounded" and "Other Desert Cities"). We were welcomed with open arms and felt right at home. I became involved with KKFI, Kansas City's community radio station and found it very welcoming. I even got the chance to DJ a 3 hour show that celebrates my favorite music genre (80s New Wave, synth, and industrial) just prior to leaving - that was one of the highlights of my year. There are many cultural events, book talks, concerts, etc. UMKC is a fairly comprehensive university and that brings much to the city. Also, a fair number of KU faculty live in KC, MO and reverse commute to Lawrence for work.

For families, there is so much so close - Union Station, The Royals, Children's Science Museum, the Aquarium, Zoo, Kids Shows at Sprint Center, Crown Center, City Market, Schlitterbahn, easy access to nature/farms. There's even a small ski facility north of KC.

In short, we found a great community spirit and things just seemed so much more accessible to families on a Federal salary than in DC. KC also has a very vibrant civic activist culture which I personally loved. Again, it was just so much easier to "plug into" than DC. I really enjoyed the opportunity to join with Stand Up KC and the Heartland Labor Forum on the Fight for 15 and other causes. I haven't had opportunities like this since before I came to Washington.

Of course, there's also the suburban option if that's what people want. The Johnson County (KS) suburbs are all quite accessible to KC with many amenities.

I hope this helps.

Wow!
Is there anything about DC that you missed in KC?

NP. Democrats and progressive mindset.