There are no death panels?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Feds ALREADY HAVE A ROLE. That's the REALITY, not my desire, wish or creation. Your whole fragile argument is built on fantasy, not reality. When the Feds do not have a role, when there is no HHS, come back and talk to me.

It's not about who needs a lung and who doesn't, it's about children being discriminated against due to their age when indeed, adult lungs would be a fit in some cases.

These are the "Bureaucrats" who set the lung transplant policy for HHS:



Chair Dr. Steven A Webber Vanderbilt University Medical Center and Nashville VA Medical Center
Vice Chairman Dr. Joseph G Rogers Duke University Hospital
Liaison Ms. Liz Robbins UNOS

Members Organization
Dr. Luis F Angel University Hospital, University of Texas Health Science Center
Dr. Mark L Barr Keck Hospital of USC
Ms. Nancy P Blumenthal Hospital of the University of Pennsylvania
Dr. Linda J Bogar Inova Fairfax Hospital
Dr. Kevin M Chan University of Michigan Medical Center
Dr. Leway Chen Strong Memorial Hospital, University of Rochester Medical Center
Dr. Joseph C Cleveland University of Colorado Hospital/Health Science Center
Dr. Richard C Daly Saint Marys Hospital (Mayo Clinic)
Ms. Ladora A Dils Lifeline of Ohio
Dr. Kevin M Dushay Rhode Island Hospital
Dr. David Bradley S Dyke University of Michigan Medical Center
Dr. Seth D Force Emory University Hospital
Dr. Shelley A Hall Baylor University Medical Center
Dr. Maryl R Johnson University of Wisconsin Hospital and Clinics
Dr. Mariska Kemna Seattle Children's Hospital
Dr. Monica Lin Division of Transplantation, HHS, Ex Officio-Non Voting
Ms. Laurie P Loza The Methodist Hospital
Dr. William T Mahle Children's Healthcare of Atlanta at Egleston
Dr. Dan M Meyer University Hospital - St. Paul
Dr. Damian Neuberger General Public
Dr. Tajinder P Singh Boston Children's Hospital
Dr. Gary A Visner Boston Children's Hospital
Dr. Timothy P Whelan Medical University of South Carolina
Dr Gordon L Yung University of California San Diego Medical Center
Dr. Mark J Zucker Newark Beth Israel Medical Center

Thank you for posting this. I think people sometimes forget that these are medical professionals that in most cases don't even work for the federal government. However the "network" is housed under HHS. I think I also heard that they are meeting Monday to discuss the current lung policy (heard on NPR so have no backup). We'll see what transpires out of that.

[Anonymous]

Wow, the list of "bureaucrats" I posted appears to bring the whole discussion to a screeching halt. I thought it was common knowledge that Drs write the transplant policy.

[Anonymous]

Question:
How often does this board meet and re-evaluate new technology?

It is a pretty big board. My understanding is that the criteria had not been reviewed for several years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wow, the list of "bureaucrats" I posted appears to bring the whole discussion to a screeching halt. I thought it was common knowledge that Drs write the transplant policy.

Pretty aware of that. The point is, it's in conjunction with the feds. If this was independent, no issues.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow, the list of "bureaucrats" I posted appears to bring the whole discussion to a screeching halt. I thought it was common knowledge that Drs write the transplant policy.

Pretty aware of that. The point is, it's in conjunction with the feds. If this was independent, no issues.

Exactly what body do you think can set policy for all of the hospitals in the country?

[Anonymous]

The adult lung transplant failed. She had to have a second transplant. They said that it was due to poor quality of the donor lungs, but maybe an adult would have worked through the complications.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The adult lung transplant failed. She had to have a second transplant. They said that it was due to poor quality of the donor lungs, but maybe an adult would have worked through the complications.[/

So she received two adult organs? I guess those bureaucrat doctors may have been right and some adult may have missed out the first time around.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The adult lung transplant failed. She had to have a second transplant. They said that it was due to poor quality of the donor lungs, but maybe an adult would have worked through the complications.

So she received two adult organs? I guess those bureaucrat doctors may have been right and some adult may have missed out the first time around.

Yes. She got the second set because other donors were passing them over. They had pneumonia and so only someone with no options would take them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The adult lung transplant failed. She had to have a second transplant. They said that it was due to poor quality of the donor lungs, but maybe an adult would have worked through the complications.

So she received two adult organs? I guess those bureaucrat doctors may have been right and some adult may have missed out the first time around.

Yes. She got the second set because other donors were passing them over. They had pneumonia and so only someone with no options would take them.

Buying time

[Anonymous]

That poor girl has been through so much.

[Anonymous]

Ironically, yes, there are now death panels (and yes, this thread is 7 years old from the ACA debates

https://www.star-telegram.com/news/coronavirus/article244443257.html

a Texas hospital is so overwhelmed with Coronavirus patients that it now has a “death panel” to decide which COVID19 patients will be “sent home to die” if deemed too sick.