Where did your high stats/ max rigor but OK ECs student end up?

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think you are in Ivy or Ivy+ territory but everything else is on the table. It’s not all doom and gloom. Crafting a cohesive application with solid essays is key. What schools do they like? ED1 and ED2 if needed will be very helpful as well. You got this!!

Not true. If ED and with well defined/explained narrative, northwestern and Hopkins are possible.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. His school still follows the AP curriculum but also offers post AP classes. He would have taken 12 APs and 2 post APs in math by the time he graduates. School calculates GPA on a scale of 100, but he has the equivalent of a 4.0 unweighted ( mostly A+s in all classes ). Intended major would be along the lines of economics/ finance / accounting .

This may be the issue: school is not a top private. Top privates don’t give out As easily let alone have 15% of the class getting A+. We have friends in lower tier private with similar profile. Thought bc they were top of class they could aim of r schools like Brown and Dartmouth ED; all rejected and ended up at schools like Wesleyan and Middlebury during RD.

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Anonymous wrote:OP: I can’t reconcile the top 15% with the 4.0 GPA at a good private school. How many core AP classes has your kid taken or is scheduled to take?

not OP but I will chime in -- top privates do not have AP courses. They follow their own curriculum, which (they claim) is more rigorous than AP.

She said it’s a good private, not one of those very exclusive top privates, as evidenced by the “top 15% and 4.0 GPA.”

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. His school still follows the AP curriculum but also offers post AP classes. He would have taken 12 APs and 2 post APs in math by the time he graduates. School calculates GPA on a scale of 100, but he has the equivalent of a 4.0 unweighted ( mostly A+s in all classes ). Intended major would be along the lines of economics/ finance / accounting .

This may be the issue: school is not a top private. Top privates don’t give out As easily let alone have 15% of the class getting A+. We have friends in lower tier private with similar profile. Thought bc they were top of class they could aim of r schools like Brown and Dartmouth ED; all rejected and ended up at schools like Wesleyan and Middlebury during RD.

*aim for

Also want to add from my one person’s observation in our city (outside DMV), T15 schools are taking kids from top privates and brilliant kids from public schools who are low income. The in-between mid-tier private and UMC kids don’t get in.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. His school still follows the AP curriculum but also offers post AP classes. He would have taken 12 APs and 2 post APs in math by the time he graduates. School calculates GPA on a scale of 100, but he has the equivalent of a 4.0 unweighted ( mostly A+s in all classes ). Intended major would be along the lines of economics/ finance / accounting .

This may be the issue: school is not a top private. Top privates don’t give out As easily let alone have 15% of the class getting A+. We have friends in lower tier private with similar profile. Thought bc they were top of class they could aim of r schools like Brown and Dartmouth ED; all rejected and ended up at schools like Wesleyan and Middlebury during RD.

*aim for

Also want to add from my one person’s observation in our city (outside DMV), T15 schools are taking kids from top privates and brilliant kids from public schools who are low income. The in-between mid-tier private and UMC kids don’t get in.

This. But I think if her kid is in the top 5%, there’s a good chance. OP: How did you come up with the top 15%, considering your kid got mostly A+’s? I think the best prediction is to look at their school’s Scoir. Also, you can see what schools kids with similar profiles from their school ended up this year. That’s a good benchmark and you can go from there.

[Anonymous]

OP your kid is almost exactly like mine.
Accepted ED to UVA last year, very happy there.

[Anonymous]

GPA and ranking lose their value in this case, everyone is straight As, Naviance is of no help. Other factors come in to distinguish kids. Her test score is acceptable, ECs are average.

Shoot your shots at T20, but have a good list of targets and safeties. Use ED/ED2 strategically.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. His school still follows the AP curriculum but also offers post AP classes. He would have taken 12 APs and 2 post APs in math by the time he graduates. School calculates GPA on a scale of 100, but he has the equivalent of a 4.0 unweighted ( mostly A+s in all classes ). Intended major would be along the lines of economics/ finance / accounting .

This may be the issue: school is not a top private. Top privates don’t give out As easily let alone have 15% of the class getting A+. We have friends in lower tier private with similar profile. Thought bc they were top of class they could aim of r schools like Brown and Dartmouth ED; all rejected and ended up at schools like Wesleyan and Middlebury during RD.

*aim for

Also want to add from my one person’s observation in our city (outside DMV), T15 schools are taking kids from top privates and brilliant kids from public schools who are low income. The in-between mid-tier private and UMC kids don’t get in.

This. But I think if her kid is in the top 5%, there’s a good chance. OP: How did you come up with the top 15%, considering your kid got mostly A+’s? I think the best prediction is to look at their school’s Scoir. Also, you can see what schools kids with similar profiles from their school ended up this year. That’s a good benchmark and you can go from there.

OP here . His school doesn’t rank. Top 15% it’s just my conservative estimate based on how many kids end up on the honor roll every semester. His rank is probably higher, but I have no way of exactly quantifying that. We do have access to Scoir. The problem with Scoir though is that it only shows you GPA and SAT/ACT stats. You have no idea what ECs these kids did , or if they were a recruited athlete, or legacy. Just based on stats alone, he should be able to get into an Ivy . It’s the ECs that are the issue here based on what the counselor told us.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. His school still follows the AP curriculum but also offers post AP classes. He would have taken 12 APs and 2 post APs in math by the time he graduates. School calculates GPA on a scale of 100, but he has the equivalent of a 4.0 unweighted ( mostly A+s in all classes ). Intended major would be along the lines of economics/ finance / accounting .

This may be the issue: school is not a top private. Top privates don’t give out As easily let alone have 15% of the class getting A+. We have friends in lower tier private with similar profile. Thought bc they were top of class they could aim of r schools like Brown and Dartmouth ED; all rejected and ended up at schools like Wesleyan and Middlebury during RD.

*aim for

Also want to add from my one person’s observation in our city (outside DMV), T15 schools are taking kids from top privates and brilliant kids from public schools who are low income. The in-between mid-tier private and UMC kids don’t get in.

That’s my son. He still got into a school between T20-30 though.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. His school still follows the AP curriculum but also offers post AP classes. He would have taken 12 APs and 2 post APs in math by the time he graduates. School calculates GPA on a scale of 100, but he has the equivalent of a 4.0 unweighted ( mostly A+s in all classes ). Intended major would be along the lines of economics/ finance / accounting .

This may be the issue: school is not a top private. Top privates don’t give out As easily let alone have 15% of the class getting A+. We have friends in lower tier private with similar profile. Thought bc they were top of class they could aim of r schools like Brown and Dartmouth ED; all rejected and ended up at schools like Wesleyan and Middlebury during RD.

*aim for

Also want to add from my one person’s observation in our city (outside DMV), T15 schools are taking kids from top privates and brilliant kids from public schools who are low income. The in-between mid-tier private and UMC kids don’t get in.

This. But I think if her kid is in the top 5%, there’s a good chance. OP: How did you come up with the top 15%, considering your kid got mostly A+’s? I think the best prediction is to look at their school’s Scoir. Also, you can see what schools kids with similar profiles from their school ended up this year. That’s a good benchmark and you can go from there.

OP here . His school doesn’t rank. Top 15% it’s just my conservative estimate based on how many kids end up on the honor roll every semester. His rank is probably higher, but I have no way of exactly quantifying that. We do have access to Scoir. The problem with Scoir though is that it only shows you GPA and SAT/ACT stats. You have no idea what ECs these kids did , or if they were a recruited athlete, or legacy. Just based on stats alone, he should be able to get into an Ivy . It’s the ECs that are the issue here based on what the counselor told us.

In my son’s decent private, half of the top 5% academically still got into T20 schools with those ECs. My son was in the top 10% (but not top 5%), and he got into a T30 unhooked with ECs slightly worse than yours.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. His school still follows the AP curriculum but also offers post AP classes. He would have taken 12 APs and 2 post APs in math by the time he graduates. School calculates GPA on a scale of 100, but he has the equivalent of a 4.0 unweighted ( mostly A+s in all classes ). Intended major would be along the lines of economics/ finance / accounting .

This may be the issue: school is not a top private. Top privates don’t give out As easily let alone have 15% of the class getting A+. We have friends in lower tier private with similar profile. Thought bc they were top of class they could aim of r schools like Brown and Dartmouth ED; all rejected and ended up at schools like Wesleyan and Middlebury during RD.

*aim for

Also want to add from my one person’s observation in our city (outside DMV), T15 schools are taking kids from top privates and brilliant kids from public schools who are low income. The in-between mid-tier private and UMC kids don’t get in.

This. But I think if her kid is in the top 5%, there’s a good chance. OP: How did you come up with the top 15%, considering your kid got mostly A+’s? I think the best prediction is to look at their school’s Scoir. Also, you can see what schools kids with similar profiles from their school ended up this year. That’s a good benchmark and you can go from there.

OP here . His school doesn’t rank. Top 15% it’s just my conservative estimate based on how many kids end up on the honor roll every semester. His rank is probably higher, but I have no way of exactly quantifying that. We do have access to Scoir. The problem with Scoir though is that it only shows you GPA and SAT/ACT stats. You have no idea what ECs these kids did , or if they were a recruited athlete, or legacy. Just based on stats alone, he should be able to get into an Ivy . It’s the ECs that are the issue here based on what the counselor told us.

The college counselor will informally rank the kids (e.g., top 5% or top 10%) in the letter, or AOs can deduce from a combination of their GPA and course rigor. You need to be in the top 5% in your high school to get into a top 20 in your case it seems.

[Anonymous]

With a 1550 and 4.0 unweighted (this assumes you got all A's, with no A-'s , etc. but with average EC's, you're looking T50, maybe one or two in the T25. Virginia Tech, University of Rochester, Syracuse, Delaware, etc.

Look to the colleges that give lots of merit for SATs like Alabama, Arizona State, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. His school still follows the AP curriculum but also offers post AP classes. He would have taken 12 APs and 2 post APs in math by the time he graduates. School calculates GPA on a scale of 100, but he has the equivalent of a 4.0 unweighted ( mostly A+s in all classes ). Intended major would be along the lines of economics/ finance / accounting .

This may be the issue: school is not a top private. Top privates don’t give out As easily let alone have 15% of the class getting A+. We have friends in lower tier private with similar profile. Thought bc they were top of class they could aim of r schools like Brown and Dartmouth ED; all rejected and ended up at schools like Wesleyan and Middlebury during RD.

*aim for

Also want to add from my one person’s observation in our city (outside DMV), T15 schools are taking kids from top privates and brilliant kids from public schools who are low income. The in-between mid-tier private and UMC kids don’t get in.

This. But I think if her kid is in the top 5%, there’s a good chance. OP: How did you come up with the top 15%, considering your kid got mostly A+’s? I think the best prediction is to look at their school’s Scoir. Also, you can see what schools kids with similar profiles from their school ended up this year. That’s a good benchmark and you can go from there.

OP here . His school doesn’t rank. Top 15% it’s just my conservative estimate based on how many kids end up on the honor roll every semester. His rank is probably higher, but I have no way of exactly quantifying that. We do have access to Scoir. The problem with Scoir though is that it only shows you GPA and SAT/ACT stats. You have no idea what ECs these kids did , or if they were a recruited athlete, or legacy. Just based on stats alone, he should be able to get into an Ivy . It’s the ECs that are the issue here based on what the counselor told us.

In my son’s decent private, half of the top 5% academically still got into T20 schools with those ECs. My son was in the top 10% (but not top 5%), and he got into a T30 unhooked with ECs slightly worse than yours.

Half of top 5%, assuming 150 kids school, that's only 3 kids to T20. But that's not a decent private. A decent private sends about 30 to T20.
An average public school sends more than that to T20.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP here. His school still follows the AP curriculum but also offers post AP classes. He would have taken 12 APs and 2 post APs in math by the time he graduates. School calculates GPA on a scale of 100, but he has the equivalent of a 4.0 unweighted ( mostly A+s in all classes ). Intended major would be along the lines of economics/ finance / accounting .

This may be the issue: school is not a top private. Top privates don’t give out As easily let alone have 15% of the class getting A+. We have friends in lower tier private with similar profile. Thought bc they were top of class they could aim of r schools like Brown and Dartmouth ED; all rejected and ended up at schools like Wesleyan and Middlebury during RD.

*aim for

Also want to add from my one person’s observation in our city (outside DMV), T15 schools are taking kids from top privates and brilliant kids from public schools who are low income. The in-between mid-tier private and UMC kids don’t get in.

This. But I think if her kid is in the top 5%, there’s a good chance. OP: How did you come up with the top 15%, considering your kid got mostly A+’s? I think the best prediction is to look at their school’s Scoir. Also, you can see what schools kids with similar profiles from their school ended up this year. That’s a good benchmark and you can go from there.

OP here . His school doesn’t rank. Top 15% it’s just my conservative estimate based on how many kids end up on the honor roll every semester. His rank is probably higher, but I have no way of exactly quantifying that. We do have access to Scoir. The problem with Scoir though is that it only shows you GPA and SAT/ACT stats. You have no idea what ECs these kids did , or if they were a recruited athlete, or legacy. Just based on stats alone, he should be able to get into an Ivy . It’s the ECs that are the issue here based on what the counselor told us.

The college counselor will informally rank the kids (e.g., top 5% or top 10%) in the letter, or AOs can deduce from a combination of their GPA and course rigor. You need to be in the top 5% in your high school to get into a top 20 in your case it seems.

My son’s private also doesn’t rank, but their school counselor took the initiative to give him an estimate during the application period. You can ask your kid’s school counselor informally after the final grades are out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:With a 1550 and 4.0 unweighted (this assumes you got all A's, with no A-'s , etc. but with average EC's, you're looking T50, maybe one or two in the T25. Virginia Tech, University of Rochester, Syracuse, Delaware, etc.

Look to the colleges that give lots of merit for SATs like Alabama, Arizona State, etc.

IMO these are too low. These were targets and safeties for my public school kid with a 3.6 uw and 35 act.

I know kids with great rigor and stats but regular ec’s who got into Cornell, Michigan, Northwestern and Berkeley this past cycle.